Trade idea Rajon for Ben Gordon

[RJ87]

Rondo's value is way overrated on this board. Rondo for Gordon is actually a fair trade. I don't know if I would do it, but it is a fair trade value wise.

I don't care if you like Rondo or hate him, but there's no way that as a basketball fan with eyes and - I assume - average intelligence, that you can claim Ben Gordon for Rondo is a fair trade. That's just.... redonkulous.

I'm really starting to think Rondo held you up at gunpoint and stole your GF or something.

[KungPoweChicken]

Rondo's value is way overrated on this board. Rondo for Gordon is actually a fair trade. I don't know if I would do it, but it is a fair trade value wise.

I don't care if you like Rondo or hate him, but there's no way that as a basketball fan with eyes and - I assume - average intelligence, that you can claim Ben Gordon for Rondo is a fair trade. That's just.... redonkulous.

I'm really starting to think Rondo held you up at gunpoint and stole your GF or something.

Well, give me an example. What player is equal value with Rondo? And you don't agree with my opinion; that's fine. But do we have to go at it with the ad hominem, "I assume-average intelligence."?

[RJ87]

Rondo's value is way overrated on this board. Rondo for Gordon is actually a fair trade. I don't know if I would do it, but it is a fair trade value wise.

I don't care if you like Rondo or hate him, but there's no way that as a basketball fan with eyes and - I assume - average intelligence, that you can claim Ben Gordon for Rondo is a fair trade. That's just.... redonkulous.

I'm really starting to think Rondo held you up at gunpoint and stole your GF or something.

Well, give me an example. What player is equal value with Rondo? And you don't agree with my opinion; that's fine. But do we have to go at it with the ad hominem, "I assume-average intelligence."?

You're right, I shouldn't assume... Clearly there's evidence to the contrary... But that's neither here nor there, and has nothiing to do with this discussion.

If I were to trade Rondo (which I don't think the C's are considering at all), I wouldn't be in a one-for-one - there'd have to be multiple pieces involved either way. If I were looking to remain a title contender, I'd package Rondo + LA's protected 2012 1st for CP3. If I'm looking to go into rebuild mode, I'd try to get a young talented PG (Jrue Holiday comes to mind; and to a lesser extent, Darren Collison) + a future 1st.

But Ben Gordon for Rondo? That's atrocious. Why not just make it a blockbuster and do Rondo+PP for Gordon+Villanueva...

[paulcowens]

Rondo's value is way overrated on this board. Rondo for Gordon is actually a fair trade. I don't know if I would do it, but it is a fair trade value wise.

Yeah, it must be a pretty fair trade for people who have a negative opinion on Rondo.

Luckily Danny would never do this...

Don't be so sure.

[KungPoweChicken]

Rondo's value is way overrated on this board. Rondo for Gordon is actually a fair trade. I don't know if I would do it, but it is a fair trade value wise.

I don't care if you like Rondo or hate him, but there's no way that as a basketball fan with eyes and - I assume - average intelligence, that you can claim Ben Gordon for Rondo is a fair trade. That's just.... redonkulous.

I'm really starting to think Rondo held you up at gunpoint and stole your GF or something.

Well, give me an example. What player is equal value with Rondo? And you don't agree with my opinion; that's fine. But do we have to go at it with the ad hominem, "I assume-average intelligence."?

You're right, I shouldn't assume... Clearly there's evidence to the contrary... But that's neither here nor there, and has nothiing to do with this discussion.

If I were to trade Rondo (which I don't think the C's are considering at all), I wouldn't be in a one-for-one - there'd have to be multiple pieces involved either way. If I were looking to remain a title contender, I'd package Rondo + LA's protected 2012 1st for CP3. If I'm looking to go into rebuild mode, I'd try to get a young talented PG (Jrue Holiday comes to mind; and to a lesser extent, Darren Collison) + a future 1st.

But Ben Gordon for Rondo? That's atrocious. Why not just make it a blockbuster and do Rondo+PP for Gordon+Villanueva...

If it has nothing to do with the discussion, then why did you make sure to get another zinger in there?


You think Rondo and a protected pick the Hornets most likely will not see is fair value for Chris Paul? Rondo doesn't have anywhere near that kind of value. You're basically suggesting a Rondo for Chris Paul trade straight up. That's never going to happen. Chris Paul is the best point guard in the league.


Players like Holiday and Collison do not make anywhere near as much money as Rondo. You could definitely get Collison. He's not that good of a player. But I doubt Holiday could be had, unless the Celtics took back a bad contract.

[BASS_THUMPER]

after that elbow/arm thing with rondo who would want him anyway?

[Change]

ha ha ha ha haaahaahahha ha bwahahahaha hahahaaahhaa

[Tai]

Rondo's value is way overrated on this board. Rondo for Gordon is actually a fair trade. I don't know if I would do it, but it is a fair trade value wise.

I don't think I've ever been flabbergasted on a comment involving the Celtics since someone on the ESPN.com forums claimed JR Smith was a better shooter than Ray Allen.

I will give you 20 TPs if you claim that on the Celtics board over at ESPN.com. The hilarity that would ensue would be well worth it.

Heck, post this on ANY Lakers board. Everyone and their mom thinks trading Perk was a bad idea? Tell them we'd trade Rondo for Ben freaking Gordon. AND claim it's fair trade value. I'm trying to hold myself back from falling on the floor laughing.

Fair trade value? Russell Westbrook is fair trade value, to answer your later proposed question. I don't know if I'd do it in a heartbeat, I don't even know if the Thunder would do it, but if you want fair trade value for Rondo, I think Westbrook fits the bill.

But Ben Gordon? I'm also starting to think Rondo raped your GF/held you at gunpoint/sent BBD to eat your dinner. That's all-time hate.

Let me repeat that. ALL-TIME hate.

[BASS_THUMPER]

ha ha ha ha haaahaahahha ha bwahahahaha hahahaaahhaa

it is funny cuz we are thinkin too low


rondo for kobe?...

what yall think bout dat?

[KungPoweChicken]

Rondo's value is way overrated on this board. Rondo for Gordon is actually a fair trade. I don't know if I would do it, but it is a fair trade value wise.

I don't think I've ever been flabbergasted on a comment involving the Celtics since someone on the ESPN.com forums claimed JR Smith was a better shooter than Ray Allen.

I will give you 20 TPs if you claim that on the Celtics board over at ESPN.com. The hilarity that would ensue would be well worth it.

Heck, post this on ANY Lakers board. Everyone and their mom thinks trading Perk was a bad idea? Tell them we'd trade Rondo for Ben freaking Gordon. AND claim it's fair trade value. I'm trying to hold myself back from falling on the floor laughing.

Fair trade value? Russell Westbrook is fair trade value, to answer your later proposed question. I don't know if I'd do it in a heartbeat, I don't even know if the Thunder would do it, but if you want fair trade value for Rondo, I think Westbrook fits the bill.

But Ben Gordon? I'm also starting to think Rondo raped your GF/held you at gunpoint/sent BBD to eat your dinner. That's all-time hate.

Let me repeat that. ALL-TIME hate.

Yeah, I don't think the Thunder would ever trade Westbrook for Rondo. I don't consider that fair value for the Thunder. Westbrook is a better player, and Westbrook has a necessary job on that team Rondo could never do.

These are some of Ben Gordon's career stats:

PPG: 17

FT%: 86

3pt%: 40

FG% .435

Played more than 80 games in a season 5 out of 7 times.



Ben Gordon is a very, very solid player. You can laugh all you want about the trade, but that doesn't make him any less of a player.



You said you were flabbergasted by me saying this was fair value trade. I'm flabbergasted by people saying Westbrook and Chris Paul for Rondo straight up are fair value trades. That's more absurd than the Ben Gordon idea.

[RJ87]

Rondo's value is way overrated on this board. Rondo for Gordon is actually a fair trade. I don't know if I would do it, but it is a fair trade value wise.

I don't think I've ever been flabbergasted on a comment involving the Celtics since someone on the ESPN.com forums claimed JR Smith was a better shooter than Ray Allen.

I will give you 20 TPs if you claim that on the Celtics board over at ESPN.com. The hilarity that would ensue would be well worth it.

Heck, post this on ANY Lakers board. Everyone and their mom thinks trading Perk was a bad idea? Tell them we'd trade Rondo for Ben freaking Gordon. AND claim it's fair trade value. I'm trying to hold myself back from falling on the floor laughing.

Fair trade value? Russell Westbrook is fair trade value, to answer your later proposed question. I don't know if I'd do it in a heartbeat, I don't even know if the Thunder would do it, but if you want fair trade value for Rondo, I think Westbrook fits the bill.

But Ben Gordon? I'm also starting to think Rondo raped your GF/held you at gunpoint/sent BBD to eat your dinner. That's all-time hate.

Let me repeat that. ALL-TIME hate.

Yeah, I don't think the Thunder would ever trade Westbrook for Rondo. I don't consider that fair value for the Thunder. Westbrook is a better player, and Westbrook has a necessary job on that team Rondo could never do.

These are some of Ben Gordon's career stats:

PPG: 17

FT%: 86

3pt%: 40

FG% .435

Played more than 80 games in a season 5 out of 7 times.



Ben Gordon is a very, very solid player. You can laugh all you want about the trade, but that doesn't make him any less of a player.



You said you were flabbergasted by me saying this was fair value trade. I'm flabbergasted by people saying Westbrook and Chris Paul for Rondo straight up are fair value trades. That's more absurd than the Ben Gordon idea.

Why just post his scoring stats? Why not post all of his mediocre stats?

PPG: 17

FT%: 86

3pt%: 40

FG% .435

Assists: 2.8

Rebounds: 2.8

Steals: .8

No defensive ability to speak of, and can't even crack the roster on a team going nowhere in Detroit.

On the contrary, there's Rondo:

PPG: 10.7

FT%: .62

3pt%: 24

FG% .486

Assists: 7.6

Rebounds: 4.4

Steals: 2

2x All-Star, 2x 1st Team all Defense, 1x 2nd team all defense.  Logs 37mins per game on a playoff team.

I mean really, if Rondo was such a terrible player and a detriment to this team - why is he here and why does he play huge minutes for us? Why was he given a $55m contract extension?

If we offer Detroit Rondo for Gordon, 2 things would happen: 1.) Danny Ainge would be fired, without hesitation then blacklisted from participating in any basketball related activities for the rest of his life. 2.) Detroit's GM would have to name every boy born into his family from here on out Danny Ainge.

[jc3celticsphan]

i hope u ment eric gordan

[KungPoweChicken]

Rondo's value is way overrated on this board. Rondo for Gordon is actually a fair trade. I don't know if I would do it, but it is a fair trade value wise.

I don't think I've ever been flabbergasted on a comment involving the Celtics since someone on the ESPN.com forums claimed JR Smith was a better shooter than Ray Allen.

I will give you 20 TPs if you claim that on the Celtics board over at ESPN.com. The hilarity that would ensue would be well worth it.

Heck, post this on ANY Lakers board. Everyone and their mom thinks trading Perk was a bad idea? Tell them we'd trade Rondo for Ben freaking Gordon. AND claim it's fair trade value. I'm trying to hold myself back from falling on the floor laughing.

Fair trade value? Russell Westbrook is fair trade value, to answer your later proposed question. I don't know if I'd do it in a heartbeat, I don't even know if the Thunder would do it, but if you want fair trade value for Rondo, I think Westbrook fits the bill.

But Ben Gordon? I'm also starting to think Rondo raped your GF/held you at gunpoint/sent BBD to eat your dinner. That's all-time hate.

Let me repeat that. ALL-TIME hate.

Yeah, I don't think the Thunder would ever trade Westbrook for Rondo. I don't consider that fair value for the Thunder. Westbrook is a better player, and Westbrook has a necessary job on that team Rondo could never do.

These are some of Ben Gordon's career stats:

PPG: 17

FT%: 86

3pt%: 40

FG% .435

Played more than 80 games in a season 5 out of 7 times.



Ben Gordon is a very, very solid player. You can laugh all you want about the trade, but that doesn't make him any less of a player.



You said you were flabbergasted by me saying this was fair value trade. I'm flabbergasted by people saying Westbrook and Chris Paul for Rondo straight up are fair value trades. That's more absurd than the Ben Gordon idea.

Why just post his scoring stats? Why not post all of his mediocre stats?

PPG: 17

FT%: 86

3pt%: 40

FG% .435

Assists: 2.8

Rebounds: 2.8

Steals: .8

No defensive ability to speak of, and can't even crack the roster on a team going nowhere in Detroit.

On the contrary, there's Rondo:

PPG: 10.7

FT%: .62

3pt%: 24

FG% .486

Assists: 7.6

Rebounds: 4.4

Steals: 2

2x All-Star, 2x 1st Team all Defense, 1x 2nd team all defense.  Logs 37mins per game on a playoff team.

I mean really, if Rondo was such a terrible player and a detriment to this team - why is he here and why does he play huge minutes for us? Why was he given a $55m contract extension?

If we offer Detroit Rondo for Gordon, 2 things would happen: 1.) Danny Ainge would be fired, without hesitation then blacklisted from participating in any basketball related activities for the rest of his life. 2.) Detroit's GM would have to name every boy born into his family from here on out Danny Ainge.

So we learned that Gordon is the far superior scorer, shooter, and free throw shooter, while Rondo is a better passer, defender, and and rebounder. It looks like we're talking about two flawed players. One is a great scorer and shooter, and the other is a great passer. Yet you act like Rondo is a great player; he's not. He is a flawed player, just like Gordon is. Rondo alone has value to get you a flawed player, not an elite superstar like Chris Paul or Russell Westbrook.

[BballTim]

Rondo's value is way overrated on this board. Rondo for Gordon is actually a fair trade. I don't know if I would do it, but it is a fair trade value wise.

I don't think I've ever been flabbergasted on a comment involving the Celtics since someone on the ESPN.com forums claimed JR Smith was a better shooter than Ray Allen.

I will give you 20 TPs if you claim that on the Celtics board over at ESPN.com. The hilarity that would ensue would be well worth it.

Heck, post this on ANY Lakers board. Everyone and their mom thinks trading Perk was a bad idea? Tell them we'd trade Rondo for Ben freaking Gordon. AND claim it's fair trade value. I'm trying to hold myself back from falling on the floor laughing.

Fair trade value? Russell Westbrook is fair trade value, to answer your later proposed question. I don't know if I'd do it in a heartbeat, I don't even know if the Thunder would do it, but if you want fair trade value for Rondo, I think Westbrook fits the bill.

But Ben Gordon? I'm also starting to think Rondo raped your GF/held you at gunpoint/sent BBD to eat your dinner. That's all-time hate.

Let me repeat that. ALL-TIME hate.

Yeah, I don't think the Thunder would ever trade Westbrook for Rondo. I don't consider that fair value for the Thunder. Westbrook is a better player, and Westbrook has a necessary job on that team Rondo could never do.

These are some of Ben Gordon's career stats:

PPG: 17

FT%: 86

3pt%: 40

FG% .435

Played more than 80 games in a season 5 out of 7 times.



Ben Gordon is a very, very solid player. You can laugh all you want about the trade, but that doesn't make him any less of a player.



You said you were flabbergasted by me saying this was fair value trade. I'm flabbergasted by people saying Westbrook and Chris Paul for Rondo straight up are fair value trades. That's more absurd than the Ben Gordon idea.

Why just post his scoring stats? Why not post all of his mediocre stats?

PPG: 17

FT%: 86

3pt%: 40

FG% .435

Assists: 2.8

Rebounds: 2.8

Steals: .8

No defensive ability to speak of, and can't even crack the roster on a team going nowhere in Detroit.

On the contrary, there's Rondo:

PPG: 10.7

FT%: .62

3pt%: 24

FG% .486

Assists: 7.6

Rebounds: 4.4

Steals: 2

2x All-Star, 2x 1st Team all Defense, 1x 2nd team all defense.  Logs 37mins per game on a playoff team.

I mean really, if Rondo was such a terrible player and a detriment to this team - why is he here and why does he play huge minutes for us? Why was he given a $55m contract extension?

If we offer Detroit Rondo for Gordon, 2 things would happen: 1.) Danny Ainge would be fired, without hesitation then blacklisted from participating in any basketball related activities for the rest of his life. 2.) Detroit's GM would have to name every boy born into his family from here on out Danny Ainge.

So we learned that Gordon is the far superior scorer, shooter, and free throw shooter, while Rondo is a better passer, defender, and and rebounder. It looks like we're talking about two flawed players. One is a great scorer and shooter, and the other is a great passer. Yet you act like Rondo is a great player; he's not. He is a flawed player, just like Gordon is. Rondo alone has value to get you a flawed player, not an elite superstar like Chris Paul or Russell Westbrook.

  17 ppg is a great scorer? That's about what Rondo gets in the playoffs...

[RJ87]

Rondo's value is way overrated on this board. Rondo for Gordon is actually a fair trade. I don't know if I would do it, but it is a fair trade value wise.

I don't think I've ever been flabbergasted on a comment involving the Celtics since someone on the ESPN.com forums claimed JR Smith was a better shooter than Ray Allen.

I will give you 20 TPs if you claim that on the Celtics board over at ESPN.com. The hilarity that would ensue would be well worth it.

Heck, post this on ANY Lakers board. Everyone and their mom thinks trading Perk was a bad idea? Tell them we'd trade Rondo for Ben freaking Gordon. AND claim it's fair trade value. I'm trying to hold myself back from falling on the floor laughing.

Fair trade value? Russell Westbrook is fair trade value, to answer your later proposed question. I don't know if I'd do it in a heartbeat, I don't even know if the Thunder would do it, but if you want fair trade value for Rondo, I think Westbrook fits the bill.

But Ben Gordon? I'm also starting to think Rondo raped your GF/held you at gunpoint/sent BBD to eat your dinner. That's all-time hate.

Let me repeat that. ALL-TIME hate.

Yeah, I don't think the Thunder would ever trade Westbrook for Rondo. I don't consider that fair value for the Thunder. Westbrook is a better player, and Westbrook has a necessary job on that team Rondo could never do.

These are some of Ben Gordon's career stats:

PPG: 17

FT%: 86

3pt%: 40

FG% .435

Played more than 80 games in a season 5 out of 7 times.



Ben Gordon is a very, very solid player. You can laugh all you want about the trade, but that doesn't make him any less of a player.



You said you were flabbergasted by me saying this was fair value trade. I'm flabbergasted by people saying Westbrook and Chris Paul for Rondo straight up are fair value trades. That's more absurd than the Ben Gordon idea.

Why just post his scoring stats? Why not post all of his mediocre stats?

PPG: 17

FT%: 86

3pt%: 40

FG% .435

Assists: 2.8

Rebounds: 2.8

Steals: .8

No defensive ability to speak of, and can't even crack the roster on a team going nowhere in Detroit.

On the contrary, there's Rondo:

PPG: 10.7

FT%: .62

3pt%: 24

FG% .486

Assists: 7.6

Rebounds: 4.4

Steals: 2

2x All-Star, 2x 1st Team all Defense, 1x 2nd team all defense.  Logs 37mins per game on a playoff team.

I mean really, if Rondo was such a terrible player and a detriment to this team - why is he here and why does he play huge minutes for us? Why was he given a $55m contract extension?

If we offer Detroit Rondo for Gordon, 2 things would happen: 1.) Danny Ainge would be fired, without hesitation then blacklisted from participating in any basketball related activities for the rest of his life. 2.) Detroit's GM would have to name every boy born into his family from here on out Danny Ainge.

So we learned that Gordon is the far superior scorer, shooter, and free throw shooter, while Rondo is a better passer, defender, and and rebounder. It looks like we're talking about two flawed players. One is a great scorer and shooter, and the other is great passer. Yet you act like Rondo is a great player; he's not. He is a flawed player, just like Gordon is. Rondo alone has value to get you a flawed player, not an elite superstar like Chris Paul or Russell Westbrook.

Every player is flawed - Rondo has actually improved his game every year he's been in teh league, while Gordon has declined.

Oh, and btw Westbrook is not an elite superstar (talk about overvaluing). I can't remember the last time I saw an "elite superstar" sit the entire 4th qtr of close conference finals.

It's funny how you accuse everyone else of overvaluing Rondo when you're so quick to sell him short - I think a lot of people would take you a lot more seriously if you just said, "hey, I hate Rondo but here's a little rational thought to add to the debate".


Also, you didn't answer my question(s): "if Rondo was such a terrible player and a detriment to this team - why is he here? why does he play huge minutes for us? Why was he given a $55m contract extension?"