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Re: Danny Ainge loves Avery Bradley, but for good reason?
« Reply #15 on: May 19, 2011, 04:15:53 PM »

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Danny always loves his trading chips...passionately loves them while he has them, and is just as cold-blooded when he trades them for value.

Bradley and the picks are Danny's only real "chips" right now as he's either traded off all the others (Goddy, Erden, Walker, Giddens, etc), can't deal others right now (Baby, Green) as he's waiting for July 1, or the contracts are too big to deal right now (big three). So, of course, he's going to be talking up Bradley and the picks. That's what he does.

Oh, and I'm not saying Bradley will be traded any time soon, just that I don't think we should get too attached to him (or any other Celtics other than Paul Pierce) because Danny will trade anybody if he thinks he can improve the team by doing so.

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Re: Danny Ainge loves Avery Bradley, but for good reason?
« Reply #16 on: May 19, 2011, 04:25:40 PM »

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I love how people think he has "good form on his jumper". One would think Celtic fans would have learned after watching Gerald Green brick shots with perfect form for half a season.
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Re: Danny Ainge loves Avery Bradley, but for good reason?
« Reply #17 on: May 19, 2011, 04:27:40 PM »

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I love how people think he has "good form on his jumper". One would think Celtic fans would have learned after watching Gerald Green brick shots with perfect form for half a season.

Yeah, and he doesn't have good form.  His feet are all over the place.  He has a decent release, but unless he can get his feet under control, that means nothing. 

Re: Danny Ainge loves Avery Bradley, but for good reason?
« Reply #18 on: May 19, 2011, 04:44:24 PM »

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I love how people think he has "good form on his jumper". One would think Celtic fans would have learned after watching Gerald Green brick shots with perfect form for half a season.

Yeah, and he doesn't have good form.  His feet are all over the place.  He has a decent release, but unless he can get his feet under control, that means nothing. 

  I thought he was rated at or near the top of the draft picks in jump shooting. Of course, that doesn't always mean much...

Re: Danny Ainge loves Avery Bradley, but for good reason?
« Reply #19 on: May 19, 2011, 04:45:38 PM »

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I love how people think he has "good form on his jumper". One would think Celtic fans would have learned after watching Gerald Green brick shots with perfect form for half a season.

Yeah, and he doesn't have good form.  His feet are all over the place.  He has a decent release, but unless he can get his feet under control, that means nothing.  

I should have clarified good form more.. I like the release on his shot. Its decent. I haven't paid much attention to his legs.

And then on Gerald Green: I actually thought his shooting ability was fine. It was his handle and inability to play team ball on either end that were poor to me.

Bradley has demonstrated that he was some defensive ability, has top notch speed and has a decent shot. I have no idea how good he is between the ears. His handle definitely needs improvement.

The main point is that Bradley has "something", and has potential for a nice NBA career.

Re: Danny Ainge loves Avery Bradley, but for good reason?
« Reply #20 on: May 19, 2011, 04:54:12 PM »

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You have to give this kid at least another year or two to develop. Heck Bill Walker and JR Giddens had almost two years and neither had the pedigree coming out of high school or college that this guy did. I'll trust in Danny's talent eval  and Doc's ability to develop youngsters for at least another year before giving up on this kid.

Also, if he spent last year at Texas, the Longhorns might have been a Final Four team and Bradley a top 3 pick. The talent coming out this year is THAT bad.

Re: Danny Ainge loves Avery Bradley, but for good reason?
« Reply #21 on: May 19, 2011, 05:09:15 PM »

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You have to give this kid at least another year or two to develop. Heck Bill Walker and JR Giddens had almost two years and neither had the pedigree coming out of high school or college that this guy did. I'll trust in Danny's talent eval  and Doc's ability to develop youngsters for at least another year before giving up on this kid.

Also, if he spent last year at Texas, the Longhorns might have been a Final Four team and Bradley a top 3 pick. The talent coming out this year is THAT bad.

Wow, of all the guys to throw out there as not having the pedigrees of Bradley, you had to use Giddens and Walker, two of the few guys who did have similar pedigrees!  Both of them were incredibly highly touted All-Americans out of highschool.  But, both of their careers fell apart a bit in college.  Giddens for character issues, and Walker because of knee issues. 

But anyways, I agree with the point.  Gotta give Bradley more time.  He is still tremendously raw, but the physical talent is there.  These guys are always a crap shoot, but you need to give them at least a couple of years to see what is going to happen once they build that foundation of fundamentals that other players ussually have by this age.

Re: Danny Ainge loves Avery Bradley, but for good reason?
« Reply #22 on: May 19, 2011, 05:17:38 PM »

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You have to give this kid at least another year or two to develop. Heck Bill Walker and JR Giddens had almost two years and neither had the pedigree coming out of high school or college that this guy did. I'll trust in Danny's talent eval  and Doc's ability to develop youngsters for at least another year before giving up on this kid.

Also, if he spent last year at Texas, the Longhorns might have been a Final Four team and Bradley a top 3 pick. The talent coming out this year is THAT bad.

Wow, of all the guys to throw out there as not having the pedigrees of Bradley, you had to use Giddens and Walker, two of the few guys who did have similar pedigrees!  Both of them were incredibly highly touted All-Americans out of highschool.  But, both of their careers fell apart a bit in college.  Giddens for character issues, and Walker because of knee issues. 

But anyways, I agree with the point.  Gotta give Bradley more time.  He is still tremendously raw, but the physical talent is there.  These guys are always a crap shoot, but you need to give them at least a couple of years to see what is going to happen once they build that foundation of fundamentals that other players ussually have by this age.

This guy is only 20.  How many guys were giving up on Rajon Rondo at 21 yrs old when he was barely seeing the court due to Telfair and West his rookie season ?  The same Rondo who everyone claimed wouldn't be something because of his jumpshot ?

Nobody gives anybody a chance to develop these days.  You can't just throw raw potential out the window.  You coach that, and develop that, just like Ainge and Doc are doing.  No urgency here.  Not at 20 yrs old and not with players like Rondo and West on the team.

Re: Danny Ainge loves Avery Bradley, but for good reason?
« Reply #23 on: May 19, 2011, 05:23:37 PM »

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You have to give this kid at least another year or two to develop. Heck Bill Walker and JR Giddens had almost two years and neither had the pedigree coming out of high school or college that this guy did. I'll trust in Danny's talent eval  and Doc's ability to develop youngsters for at least another year before giving up on this kid.

Also, if he spent last year at Texas, the Longhorns might have been a Final Four team and Bradley a top 3 pick. The talent coming out this year is THAT bad.

Wow, of all the guys to throw out there as not having the pedigrees of Bradley, you had to use Giddens and Walker, two of the few guys who did have similar pedigrees!  Both of them were incredibly highly touted All-Americans out of highschool.  But, both of their careers fell apart a bit in college.  Giddens for character issues, and Walker because of knee issues. 

But anyways, I agree with the point.  Gotta give Bradley more time.  He is still tremendously raw, but the physical talent is there.  These guys are always a crap shoot, but you need to give them at least a couple of years to see what is going to happen once they build that foundation of fundamentals that other players ussually have by this age.


In a strange way, Bradley reminds me a little of Walker.  Walker looked equally lost on the court as a Celtic...(Looks slightly less lost now.)  Bradley looks lost.  Both are great athletes who play hard defensively.  

Re: Danny Ainge loves Avery Bradley, but for good reason?
« Reply #24 on: May 19, 2011, 05:24:18 PM »

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You have to give this kid at least another year or two to develop. Heck Bill Walker and JR Giddens had almost two years and neither had the pedigree coming out of high school or college that this guy did. I'll trust in Danny's talent eval  and Doc's ability to develop youngsters for at least another year before giving up on this kid.

Also, if he spent last year at Texas, the Longhorns might have been a Final Four team and Bradley a top 3 pick. The talent coming out this year is THAT bad.

Wow, of all the guys to throw out there as not having the pedigrees of Bradley, you had to use Giddens and Walker, two of the few guys who did have similar pedigrees!  Both of them were incredibly highly touted All-Americans out of highschool.  But, both of their careers fell apart a bit in college.  Giddens for character issues, and Walker because of knee issues. 

But anyways, I agree with the point.  Gotta give Bradley more time.  He is still tremendously raw, but the physical talent is there.  These guys are always a crap shoot, but you need to give them at least a couple of years to see what is going to happen once they build that foundation of fundamentals that other players ussually have by this age.
LOL. That's right, these guys stock didn't take a major hit until their first year of college with Walker's injury and Giddens stabbing. Still point is the same. We gave these guys who were multiple year college players two years to develop and Bradley is a 20 year old with one year of college and people are ready to toss him immediately.

Re: Danny Ainge loves Avery Bradley, but for good reason?
« Reply #25 on: May 19, 2011, 05:25:23 PM »

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I agree bbd24:

I'd really like to see Delonte spending more time at the 2 spot next year and I'd like to see Bradley getting a lot of burn at the back up spot behind Rondo. If he struggles, we can slide delonte over to spell him, or we can use whatever 3rd string point we pick up this off season.

But I'd be all for throwing this kid into the fire - he works hard enough out there to figure it with some playing time.

But he MUST improve his handle this off season, that will help him immensely.    

Re: Danny Ainge loves Avery Bradley, but for good reason?
« Reply #26 on: May 19, 2011, 05:27:00 PM »

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I agree bbd24:

I'd really like to see Delonte spending more time at the 2 spot next year and I'd like to see Bradley getting a lot of burn at the back up spot behind Rondo. If he struggles, we can slide delonte over to spell him, or we can use whatever 3rd string point we pick up this off season.

But I'd be all for throwing this kid into the fire - he works hard enough out there to figure it with some playing time.

But he MUST improve his handle this off season, that will help him immensely.    


A guy who can't handle the ball shouldn't be the backup point guard. He has a long way to go before this should even be considered.

Re: Danny Ainge loves Avery Bradley, but for good reason?
« Reply #27 on: May 19, 2011, 05:27:11 PM »

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Didn't Bradley, unlike Walker and Giddens, have a strong freshman year at Texas though?  

Re: Danny Ainge loves Avery Bradley, but for good reason?
« Reply #28 on: May 19, 2011, 05:27:17 PM »

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You have to give this kid at least another year or two to develop. Heck Bill Walker and JR Giddens had almost two years and neither had the pedigree coming out of high school or college that this guy did. I'll trust in Danny's talent eval  and Doc's ability to develop youngsters for at least another year before giving up on this kid.

Also, if he spent last year at Texas, the Longhorns might have been a Final Four team and Bradley a top 3 pick. The talent coming out this year is THAT bad.

Wow, of all the guys to throw out there as not having the pedigrees of Bradley, you had to use Giddens and Walker, two of the few guys who did have similar pedigrees!  Both of them were incredibly highly touted All-Americans out of highschool.  But, both of their careers fell apart a bit in college.  Giddens for character issues, and Walker because of knee issues. 

But anyways, I agree with the point.  Gotta give Bradley more time.  He is still tremendously raw, but the physical talent is there.  These guys are always a crap shoot, but you need to give them at least a couple of years to see what is going to happen once they build that foundation of fundamentals that other players ussually have by this age.

This guy is only 20.  How many guys were giving up on Rajon Rondo at 21 yrs old when he was barely seeing the court due to Telfair and West his rookie season ?  The same Rondo who everyone claimed wouldn't be something because of his jumpshot ?

Nobody gives anybody a chance to develop these days.  You can't just throw raw potential out the window.  You coach that, and develop that, just like Ainge and Doc are doing.  No urgency here.  Not at 20 yrs old and not with players like Rondo and West on the team.
I think Kendrick Perkins might have made Avery Bradley look like an All-Star by comparison when looking at there first years in the pros. What happens if Boston had given up on that fat kid who showed less than nothing that first year.

Re: Danny Ainge loves Avery Bradley, but for good reason?
« Reply #29 on: May 19, 2011, 05:31:21 PM »

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I don't see Bradley as significantly worse than Delonte as a ball handler and Delonte is no meadowlark with the ball.

I'll take my chances with Bradley and his speed on the break with the ball against second units. I'd like to see more of Delonte at the two guard next year if he resigns.

Bradley is unorthodox with the ball but I think he should be able to improve enough to handle the back up minutes