Minnesota looking to wheel and deal

[JSD]

I'm FOR trading Rondo now. He won't be as effective once all the hall of famers are gone and I think now is the time to trade him while his value is still high. The more cap space and young talent we put around Pierce for 2012 the better.


I would do Rubio, the #2 pick, and a future unprotected for Rondo in a heartbeat.

[Who]

Jeez, that would be an absolute dreadful move (trading away #2 pick for veteran help).

For a 17 win team, that is a million miles away from fielding a winner, to trade away the chance to draft a quality young prospect in favour of bringing in a veteran player ... just awful.

Rebuild. Do it properly. Don't do it half-assed.

What is he trying to do? Win 35 games? Finish in 10th place in the West? And have wasted away all his opportunities at building anything meaningful? How are they ever going to build a contender if they keep making dim witted moves like this.

Rebuild. Do it properly. Things take time. Continue to collect top 5 picks. Try to draft better players than you have done so far. Develop them. Let them grow as unit. The team gradually improves. Now a playoff team or close to it. Add to the team with a trade and/or free agency. Continue to develop your young veteran stars. Turn it into winner.

Good things take time. Stop rushing. Be patient. Please.

Didn't you suggest trading Love and Beasely in another thread?  
I'm just kidding you I don't think such a trade necessarily negates your call for patience, considering that Williams will evolve into a "ready" player very quickly if not immediately, and Love/Beasely could bring back vets as well as potential....

I'd say keep Love and trade Beasely, Rubio and D. Williams for Kanter plus a load of other stuff, including a 2012 first rounder from a lottery-type team....

I have nothing against trading the pick for a high quality prospect.

It's the idea of trading it for veteran help that I hate.

Derrick Williams could be worth a prospect and some veteran help imo.

anyway, I was referring to your idea of trading Love and Beasely as going against the grain of your also preaching patience.  They've been waiting a long time for all their young picks to add up to something, and trading Love would seem like impatience if they did it for young prospects instead of young "vets" (I'd describe Love as a young vet).  Derrick Williams should also very quickly reach young vet status I would think....

I would trade Michael Beasley because I consider him the second most harmful player (to his own team) in the NBA behind Andrea Bargnani. Just removing him from the team will improve the T'Wolves.

I would take whatever they can get for Beasley just to get rid him off the team. And they could probably get a useful first round draft pick. Possibly as high as a mid-first rounder but at least a late first rounder. Something valuable.

I would trade Kevin Love because I believe he is an over-rated player. I consider him a top 15 PF but not the elite player (All-Star, All-NBA level talent) that some consider him. Nowhere near it, in fact.

And Minnesota are preparing to give him a very large contract extension this summer + Love could command an even larger (max contract) as a free agent the following summer if he doesn't re-sign. Which frankly frightens me. 

Given those factors, I think Kevin Love offers the team more as a trade asset than as a player. I think they can acquire a better young high level talent.

A secondary reason why I would be willing to trade Kevin Love is because I consider Anthony Randolph to be a very good prospect. A quality replacement at PF (not today but in the future). Someone who'll be worth his weight in gold to whoever develops him properly.

Anyway, those are the reasons why I would try to trade those players if I were Minny.

[PortCelt]

It's the idea of trading it for veteran help that I hate.

Veteran help, no, but a veteran member of the Core, then I think it makes sense.

I think they will go hard after Igoudala, Gay, Martin, Ellis, Gortat, and other youngish pseudo-stars that could come right in and be real impact players for them.

You would have to consider moving RA and another contract or #1 for Iggy. He's solid, but he's owed roughly $45m over the next 3 years. K. Mart has the most palatable contract of those mentioned, and would be a better fit considering Iggy's erratic perimeter offense.

[Chris]

It's the idea of trading it for veteran help that I hate.

Veteran help, no, but a veteran member of the Core, then I think it makes sense.

I think they will go hard after Igoudala, Gay, Martin, Ellis, Gortat, and other youngish pseudo-stars that could come right in and be real impact players for them.

You would have to consider moving RA and another contract or #1 for Iggy. He's solid, but he's owed roughly $45m over the next 3 years. K. Mart has the most palatable contract of those mentioned, and would be a better fit considering Iggy's erratic perimeter offense.

I am talking about Minnesota, not the C's. 

[Change]

Never.

Timberwolves has bunch of young guys with little to no value. Their best player Kevin Love at best 4th or 5th option on contending teams. Pass on any deal involving Timberwolves.

[2short]

I'm FOR trading Rondo now. He won't be as effective once all the hall of famers are gone and I think now is the time to trade him while his value is still high. The more cap space and young talent we put around Pierce for 2012 the better.


I would do Rubio, the #2 pick, and a future unprotected for Rondo in a heartbeat.

wow
i repeat wow

[Chris]

I'm FOR trading Rondo now. He won't be as effective once all the hall of famers are gone and I think now is the time to trade him while his value is still high. The more cap space and young talent we put around Pierce for 2012 the better.


I would do Rubio, the #2 pick, and a future unprotected for Rondo in a heartbeat.

wow
i repeat wow

I know, its shocking that someone would think the Wolves would give up 3 likely top 5 picks for Rondo.

Seriously though, if a deal like that were on the table, Danny would likely have to take it. 

[jambr380]

I'm FOR trading Rondo now. He won't be as effective once all the hall of famers are gone and I think now is the time to trade him while his value is still high. The more cap space and young talent we put around Pierce for 2012 the better.


I would do Rubio, the #2 pick, and a future unprotected for Rondo in a heartbeat.

wow
i repeat wow

I know, its shocking that someone would think the Wolves would give up 3 likely top 5 picks for Rondo.

Seriously though, if a deal like that were on the table, Danny would likely have to take it. 

What's up with Rubio nowadays anyway? Is he actually coming to the NBA? I agree with you, though. That is just too much talent to pass up on. I love Rondo, but I guess it couldn't hurt to shop him around and see if somebody would grossly overpay for him. That's the only way I would move him.

[fanofgreen]

I'm all for some sort of Sign&Trade package involving Big Baby for Anthony Randolph.

I would love having Anthony Randolph on this team, for both now and the future.

Can u imagine KG and PP on the bench resting, while Jeff Green and A. Randolph are running the lanes catching lobs from Rondo.

And I would just love to watch how A.Randolph would develop under the tutelage of KG.

We get Younger, Longer, and more Athletic.
Three things that have hampered the C's, especially this year.

[pearljammer10]

No one on the wolves interests me including the number 2 pick.

[BballTim]

I'm FOR trading Rondo now. He won't be as effective once all the hall of famers are gone and I think now is the time to trade him while his value is still high. The more cap space and young talent we put around Pierce for 2012 the better.


I would do Rubio, the #2 pick, and a future unprotected for Rondo in a heartbeat.

  So we trade Rondo and build around a past his prime Pierce?

  Are we getting rid of KG and Ray or is the plan to see them fight for the 6th or 7th seed next year?

[SHAQATTACK]

Kevin Love is a Celtics type player. Old school , reminds me a bit of Dave Cowans. He'd be a great addition.

Other than D12,  I like Marc Gasol,T. Chandler, Love and Aldridge all healthy young rebounders .

[JSD]

I'm FOR trading Rondo now. He won't be as effective once all the hall of famers are gone and I think now is the time to trade him while his value is still high. The more cap space and young talent we put around Pierce for 2012 the better.


I would do Rubio, the #2 pick, and a future unprotected for Rondo in a heartbeat.

  So we trade Rondo and build around a past his prime Pierce?

  Are we getting rid of KG and Ray or is the plan to see them fight for the 6th or 7th seed next year?

We build around Pierce, cap space and young high end prospects/picks that can be traded.

I still think we can compete for a title without Rondo. Billups is likely an MLE guy this offseason.

[BballTim]

I'm FOR trading Rondo now. He won't be as effective once all the hall of famers are gone and I think now is the time to trade him while his value is still high. The more cap space and young talent we put around Pierce for 2012 the better.


I would do Rubio, the #2 pick, and a future unprotected for Rondo in a heartbeat.

  So we trade Rondo and build around a past his prime Pierce?

  Are we getting rid of KG and Ray or is the plan to see them fight for the 6th or 7th seed next year?

We build around Pierce, cap space and young high end prospects/picks that can be traded.

I still think we can compete for a title without Rondo. Billups is likely an MLE guy this offseason.

  Billups is on the Knicks. Building around an aging PP is a complete waste of time.

[JSD]

I'm FOR trading Rondo now. He won't be as effective once all the hall of famers are gone and I think now is the time to trade him while his value is still high. The more cap space and young talent we put around Pierce for 2012 the better.


I would do Rubio, the #2 pick, and a future unprotected for Rondo in a heartbeat.

  So we trade Rondo and build around a past his prime Pierce?

  Are we getting rid of KG and Ray or is the plan to see them fight for the 6th or 7th seed next year?

We build around Pierce, cap space and young high end prospects/picks that can be traded.

I still think we can compete for a title without Rondo. Billups is likely an MLE guy this offseason.

  Billups is on the Knicks. Building around an aging PP is a complete waste of time.

The Knicks picked up his option for $14 million? You think they will? Not a chance. He'll be a free agent.

Building around Rondo is a waste of time.