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Bulls-Heat game 1 really shows Doc's bad coaching
« on: May 15, 2011, 10:39:17 PM »

Offline OsirusCeltics

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The way the Bulls dominated the Heat in game 1 is exactly what the Celtics should have done to beat Miami

Thibs is a former Celtics Assistant Coach and the Bulls are basically a spitting image of the Celtics offensively and defensively. Only that Celtics have more scoring options offensively and more experience

All through that Miami series, Doc kept trying to play down to Miami's level. Decided to play small against them, which was a horrible move

When you have 4 players above 6'11" (JO, Kristic, Murphy, KG)
why not exploit that advantage? Create plays where the ball goes in the hole every time down. Focus more on rebounding

Should have played Jeff Green more. The one athletic guy you have, and neglected to play faster and put him in the fast break

Also Glen Davis should have never gotten that much minutes. He had no advantage in this series. He either played James Jones on the perimeter, or couldn't handle Bosh and Joel Anthony's length in the post

Thibs is doing more with little and overpowered the Heat
Doc did little with more against the Heat

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« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2011, 10:43:19 PM »

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When you have 4 players above 6'11" (JO, Kristic, Murphy, KG)
why not exploit that advantage? Create plays where the ball goes in the hole every time down. Focus more on rebounding


Only one of those guys is a better offensive player than Noah, let alone Asik, Gibson and Boozer. You can't exploit smaller players on offense if your guys can't score. But to me, the biggest difference was how  the younger and more athletic Bulls were able to hound the Heat all game, whereas our guys were worn down by the end.

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« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2011, 10:48:34 PM »

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The Bulls were able to play Deng and Taj Gibson at the 4 to defend James.

Korver seems to give Wade trouble for whatever reason.

The Bulls have better personnel than the C's do.

We couldn't play "big" because all of our bigs were hurt or slumping, including BBD and KG.

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« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2011, 10:48:51 PM »

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something has to be said that the bulls are alot younger than the celtics...so they are able to hang at the heats pace of game for 48minutes....in games 2,4,5 we were tied or leading into the 4th quarter...but we were gassed and the offense floundered..

we need to add young athletic big men...and hopefully Jeff Green can develop to be the 6th man off the bench we need to help carry the scoring load...he certainly has the potential to.

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« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2011, 10:49:59 PM »

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I agree to the point that Green didn't get enough time, but only to match the athleticism of the Heat. We HAVE to get more athletic in complement to the Big 3 or the gap grows with the Heat and Bulls.

The bottom line to the Heat-Bulls series is defense. Chicago is a dominating defensive team. We are not, and we're never going to be with Davis on the floor, a clearly slowing Ray Allen, etc.
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« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2011, 10:50:14 PM »

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Doc is very predictable which is why players like him and why he drives fans crazy. Agree 100%. Sit Baby and play Kristic and Green more was a no-brainer. Not really a problem going small; but again, playing a one armed Rondo rather than letting Delonte run the show with Arroyo, Wafer or Pavlovic coming off the bench. Was also obvious that Miami would ride Wade and Lebron meaning that it was stupid in the first game to expect the subs to keep up with Miami's starters. Should have always had two starters on the floor at all times.

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« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2011, 10:51:16 PM »

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But to me, the biggest difference was how  the younger and more athletic Bulls were able to hound the Heat all game, whereas our guys were worn down by the end.

I completely agree.  While I didn't agree with all of Doc's coaching decisions, the fact is that the Bulls are just younger.  I feel like we just watched what would have happened between Miami and the C's if we had younger legs.

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« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2011, 10:58:33 PM »

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It's amazing how folks continue to fantasize about Green being the cause of all our problems, and Baby being the EVIL ONE who is the cause of all our problems!!!!

Baby was an important player for us most of this season.  Both he and Green seem very confused about their roles after The Trade, for good reason.  The Trade itself confused matters, making it seem that in midseason, the Celtics were trying to change their approach, looking to go small, wanting to somehow match up better with the Heat's strengths, rather than play to the Celtics' strengths.  No one was really sure what exactly   was Ainge's intention. 

But on one thing I agree with this post.  The Celtics clearly should have attacked the basket against the Heat.  Instead, they settled for jumpers a lot of the time.  It was a losing formula.

I don't think the issue was youth.  Youth becomes an issue when age fails to play to its strengths. We played without passion and focus and we didn't play smart.  We could have beaten the Heat.

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« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2011, 11:01:11 PM »

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But to me, the biggest difference was how  the younger and more athletic Bulls were able to hound the Heat all game, whereas our guys were worn down by the end.

I completely agree.  While I didn't agree with all of Doc's coaching decisions, the fact is that the Bulls are just younger.  I feel like we just watched what would have happened between Miami and the C's if we had younger legs.

We're unathletic, injured and for some reason, limiting the minutes of the one guy we have who's athletic enogh to run with Miami for the Round Mound of Brickology.

Sadly, it was folly to think we had a chance in that series.
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« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2011, 11:08:28 PM »

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Even if we had gotten by the Heat, with Rondo's elbow injury and JO's wrist....I don't believe we would have made it past the Bulls or any team from the West.

It may be just best for our team to take time off early and rest up for next season.

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« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2011, 11:20:19 PM »

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Why must the focus be on Jeff Green? I wrote only two sentences on it lol

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When you have 4 players above 6'11" (JO, Kristic, Murphy, KG)
why not exploit that advantage? Create plays where the ball goes in the hole every time down. Focus more on rebounding


Only one of those guys is a better offensive player than Noah, let alone Asik, Gibson and Boozer. You can't exploit smaller players on offense if your guys can't score. But to me, the biggest difference was how  the younger and more athletic Bulls were able to hound the Heat all game, whereas our guys were worn down by the end.

Exactly.  The difference is all about having young, energetic, athletic role players who can contribute and allow the starters to relax on both ends of the court.
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When you have 4 players above 6'11" (JO, Kristic, Murphy, KG)
why not exploit that advantage? Create plays where the ball goes in the hole every time down. Focus more on rebounding


Only one of those guys is a better offensive player than Noah, let alone Asik, Gibson and Boozer. You can't exploit smaller players on offense if your guys can't score. But to me, the biggest difference was how  the younger and more athletic Bulls were able to hound the Heat all game, whereas our guys were worn down by the end.

Exactly.  The difference is all about having young, energetic, athletic role players who can contribute and allow the starters to relax on both ends of the court.

Either you're being sarcastic or you're not, but either way that's not my point. Luol Deng can man up LeBron for a game and still contribute offensively, Paul can't anymore. etc. Etc.

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« Reply #14 on: May 15, 2011, 11:34:50 PM »

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When you have 4 players above 6'11" (JO, Kristic, Murphy, KG)
why not exploit that advantage? Create plays where the ball goes in the hole every time down. Focus more on rebounding


Only one of those guys is a better offensive player than Noah, let alone Asik, Gibson and Boozer. You can't exploit smaller players on offense if your guys can't score. But to me, the biggest difference was how  the younger and more athletic Bulls were able to hound the Heat all game, whereas our guys were worn down by the end.

Exactly.  The difference is all about having young, energetic, athletic role players who can contribute and allow the starters to relax on both ends of the court.

Either you're being sarcastic or you're not, but either way that's not my point. Luol Deng can man up LeBron for a game and still contribute offensively, Paul can't anymore. etc. Etc.

That's where Jeff Green could have came in. Should have played more minutes on Lebron