Keeping the big 4? A big mistake perhaps?

[droopdog7]

Keeping the team together one more year isn't a major blow to rebuilding.  I think it just delays it for one more year since almost everyone will be off the books anyway after next year.  We'll have a lower draft pick next year but it probably isn't a major blow either.

[SHAQATTACK]

It seems to me , nothing but the average fan , non expert, what we have is the best we can do next year.  Problem is these guys value is going to sink like a ship as every month goes by.

The League is complex , more than I can keep up with, the ol buddy system, secret deals, ect. Meaning you JUST NEVER know WHAT is in the works between teams.  WHat will probally happen is beyound the scope of most of us to figure out.

KG is my favorite Celtic , but I'm willing to have stiff upper lip and let as many currentplayers and picks  go as need be to land what will be the only chance to land two of the best players the NBA has seen or will see in the near future. Paul P. should take a back sit and stay a Celtic.

If we DON't make a run at the two best players and go for small upgrades to Krstic and BBD , I don't see  us advancing no futher against the HEAT or BUlls than we got this year. Then , the following year...yes we will be REALLY REALLY UP the creek , with people screaming WHY oh WHY didn't we unloadem when we had the chance and possibly somebody would want them.

Keeping the core next year is a "FEEL GOOD"  act and not a committment to a even better Celtic future.  

If I can see though this ,  I know DA who is responsiible for the future will too...he seems very forward thinking.

SHould we STAND BY as always and let the LAkers PICK the choice best players. They are ruthless and will toss everybody on the team but Koby to get what they want.

Waiting another year will bring only a so-so year, not a banner and set Boston up for a super bad following year. While we watch the Lakers reload to destroy Boston for the next 10 years.

I want a team that can compete with the Heat ,Bull, Knickcs in the future.  Our oldies will be less good next year at this time than NOW Why hang on.?

 

[wahz]

1. Because of how we lost last year, it sure looked like all we had to do was keep the team intact, and that meant keeping Tony too, but not necessarily Marquis who wasn't much of a factor, and adding REAL depth at center. We were very few points away from a title, Perks injury, home court etc. Danny had a tough job because of all the re-signings he would face but it certainly was clear to anyone what we would need.

2. In retrospect, losing Tony was a huge problem. With Mia coming together we needed the best defensive wing we could have to back up PP. IMHO if we had done #1 above we could have beaten Mia. To be clear that meant a team with Perk and TA and also JO and Shaq.

3. Now what? IMHO, if we are going to win now, we still have to replace Perk, we need low post offense, Jeff Green might provide the depth at wing we need but its not looking good, and we need another shooter off the bench. That could be 2 guys if we can get a center who plays d, rebounds and plays solid low post offense, and we find yet another wing who can shoot and guard Lebron. AND keep the team intact, which means DW, JO, etc.

The non blow it up way:

Its not impossible. We get the mle again I assume and we can get one player that way. But its also time to assume its not good enough for this player to just be ok. He has to be a perfect fit for this team. The low post guy I describe is nearly impossible to get. The wing maybe with the MLE. In the post, Gortat is a decent option but again, no low post offense. There is no easy way to get Bogut. Al Jefferson can't play d so far. Even if I had a good idea Im not Danny but I do know we need this as do all of you.

The blow it up way: The best possibilities in my mind are losing Rondo and somehow getting Paul in return. Now you don't need the shooter since Paul can shoot and you have to hope Green becomes a solid enough back up. DW stays and backs up Paul and Ray. But you still have to have low post offense.

[Chris]

Until I even consider that keeping these guys together another year is a mistake, I want to know what the realistic alternatives are.  Frankly, the more I look at it, the less I see realistic options where these guys could be traded for anything that would actually help them rebuild/reload any quicker (other than the longshot Chris Paul ideas).

Most any deal for KG or Ray will just net us either mediocre players on long deals or mediocre draft picks/prospects.  

Obviously if a great deal presents itself, then you have to jump at it, but I just don't see those deals out there.

[wahz]

I frequently suffer from wishful thinking.

When everything happened in summer 2007, all of us would have thought keeping this core together anything past 3-4 years was absurd. I think to at least some degree thinking we can keep the core 3 intact and win is wishful thinking. They just got blown apart at the end of two straight games to end the season, by a combined score of what, 24-4? and they were all on the floor.
At this point in their careers they are flawed bunch and Im ok with blowing it up. The pain of the last two years, watching them fritter away opportunities even though they were trying was very painful for us and them.

Danny is going to have to work some magic. Its going to have to a near miracle to turn this around quickly now. He started the process with the perk trade so I won't be surprised

[PseudoElite]

I frequently suffer from wishful thinking.

When everything happened in summer 2007, all of us would have thought keeping this core together anything past 3-4 years was absurd. I think to at least some degree thinking we can keep the core 3 intact and win is wishful thinking. They just got blown apart at the end of two straight games to end the season, by a combined score of what, 24-4? and they were all on the floor.
At this point in their careers they are flawed bunch and Im ok with blowing it up. The pain of the last two years, watching them fritter away opportunities even though they were trying was very painful for us and them.

Danny is going to have to work some magic. Its going to have to a near miracle to turn this around quickly now. He started the process with the perk trade so I won't be surprised

I hope you're right. If the Perkins-Green trade doesn't net the Celtics something good soon then I dare say it was an absolute failure. But who knows, maybe Danny has something up his sleeve.