Keeping the big 4? A big mistake perhaps?

[PseudoElite]

There has been talk since Doc and Ray Allen have re-signed that the big 4 will come back together again for another run.

Am I the only one who is unhappy with this? I love the guys but I feel like they are much too old now, and 1 more year will only add on the mileage.

This season was all about losing the 1st seed because they couldn't perform on back-to-backs and 4th quarter meltdowns.

I guess realistically KG and Ray Allen have 1 year left on their contracts and we won't get much for trading them.

Oh well, if they do come back I hope Glen Davis won't be our first option of the bench.

[BballTim]

There has been talk since Doc and Ray Allen have re-signed that the big 4 will come back together again for another run.

Am I the only one who is unhappy with this? I love the guys but I feel like they are much too old now, and 1 more year will only add on the mileage.

This season was all about losing the 1st seed because they couldn't perform on back-to-backs and 4th quarter meltdowns.

I guess realistically KG and Ray Allen have 1 year left on their contracts and we won't get much for trading them.

Oh well, if they do come back I hope Glen Davis won't be our first option of the bench.

  Does anyone have any actual data that shows the Celts have more fourth quarter meltdowns than other teams?

[wdleehi]

No.


This team is built to blow up in 2012.  


All contracts but Rondo and Pierce are off the books.  


Bird rights for KG, Ray and Green are intact.  


Clipper 1st round pick is available to be traded (along with Boston picks)



So unless a great deal comes up (Howard or Paul), this team should not make a huge move this season that gives them a contract into 2012.  (getting one year deals is perfectly fine)

[cman88]

start building a young/athletic solid bench, and get a young center...that will do alot to ease the rebuilding process into 2012 when everyone but paul/rondo come off the books...and guys like OJ mayo and D-howard become free agents

[Marcus13]

You aren't going to get a star player by packaging Ray and KG so why deal them?

[wdleehi]

start building a young/athletic solid bench, and get a young center...that will do alot to ease the rebuilding process into 2012 when everyone but paul/rondo come off the books...and guys like OJ mayo and D-howard become free agents

But if those are in place, the cap space and flexibility needed is gone.  


Teams need to get the stars in place first, then add the complimentary pieces.

[ManUp]

There isn't much else to do then to wait for 2012 when we get everyone not named Rondo and Pierce coming off the books. I'm not to excited thinking about next year because the Heat will only get better and add depth (same for the Bulls). I just hope Danny makes moves that will help speed the transition between this title contender to the next. No need to drag this thing out these guys gave us all that they had.

[WeMadeIt17]

Yeah I think keeping these guys one more year is and should be the plan. Have to get a solid bench though. I don't want to turn into the spurs where we get the 1 seed and lose in the 1st round. But with all the money we have in 2012 it still will be hard to convince Dwight to come here.

[WeMadeIt17]

Could Danny's plan be not to get chris paul knowing we have rondo in hand and go after Howard and Restricted FA Kevin Love in 2012? Could you imagine those two on the boards?!

[Green Hell]

Yeah I think keeping these guys one more year is and should be the plan. Have to get a solid bench though. I don't want to turn into the spurs where we get the 1 seed and lose in the 1st round. But with all the money we have in 2012 it still will be hard to convince Dwight to come here.

Too late, we've already turned into the Spurts.

Honestly, unless Wyc/Danny makes a big move this off season, I can see them easily losing a ton of fans and revenue.

What reason should fans have to watch these guys struggle through the regular season once again and then likely make an early exit in the playoffs?

It's time for change. Signing some D League scrubs and bringing in a bunch of old/broken free agents isn't going to get much anyone else excited for next season.

[coco]

Thinking past the top players such as DHoward, Durant, etc...I really think we could use a guy like Monta Ellis.  The problem is that we might have to break the big 4 to get him....RA would certainly be on the table for such a move.

[PseudoElite]

KG still has a 10 million contract, and KG is my favorite PF in the NBA but he's 35.

I guess we do have to wait until 2012, what a painful season 2011 might turn out to be unless Danny pulls out a miracle (something better than the disastrous trade deadline deals at least).

[acieEarl]

You aren't going to get a star player by packaging Ray and KG so why deal them?

This is my thinking. Unless someone throws someone on the the same level. We'd most likely get 10cents on the dollar for these guys so just keep them, let the contracts expire.

Draft is real weak, but they might want to pick up a 2nd round pick or late first to try to steal a possible gem. Weak drafts usually meant more value at a later pick.

[get_banners]

Expect no huge moves...unless someone is willing to offer us a young great player in return for expiring contracts like KG and Ray. We'll probably add a decent 3/4 via the MLE. Maybe get something in a S&T for Baby (and JO - word is he might retire to spend more time with his family, so his contract becomes even more valuable). But yeah, no other big moves. I expect the new CBA to be more restrictive, so I wouldn't expect Miami to get better (in terms of adding players). Hope everyone gets healthy, hope for maybe a 2 month lockout (to keep us more fresh), and expect big moves (maybe 1-2 max contracts) in 2012.

[jr_3421]

I think we almost have to stay with the big 4 another year. We aren't netting any big players in a trade and with the lockout it seems realistic that we would have some kind of shot.

But if we are goingto stay with the big 4 than I think what Tim Legler said was spot on. Danny is going to have to strike gold in the draft and we have to add athleticism to our frontier. I think Wyc better be prepared to to overpay for Deadre Jordan.