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[Assassin70]

It's actually 2, as Noah only played in 48 games this season. But I'd take Wade over Rondo, personally.

I only pointed this out to say that I don't care for the award, not to say that I don't believe Rondo is a terrific defensive player.

But ya, I do believe that Chris Paul is a slightly better defensive player than Rondo. Though, I'd concede that if Rondo truly focused and stay disciplined he'd be the better defender.

  How many Hornets games do you watch? Are you sure that CP always stays focused and disciplined on defense?

  

Obviously not as many as the Celtics, but I'd say I've watched a pretty decent chunk. At least 30 games I'd say.

  Ok, that's more than I've seen, but I still think Rondo's somewhat better.

I watch a good deal of Hornet games over the past 3 years I would give Paul the ever so slight edge only because he doesn't gamble as much.  Rondo's gambling has cost us quite a few times.

I also see CP show waaay more focus on D than Rondo.

[BballTim]

Ok, that's more than I've seen, but I still think Rondo's somewhat better.

Does it really matter? We're going back to what was pointed out pretty extensively before: Their defensive and rebounding abilities are very comparable.

It's the shooting and ability to take care of the ball that separates the two. And I think those two things would greatly improve this Celtics team in the present and moving forward

  Rondo doesn't turn the ball over in the playoffs much more than Paul, he's probably been a little better over the last 3 years. But, yes, CP3 is clearly a better shooter.

[soap07]

 Rondo doesn't turn the ball over in the playoffs much more than Paul, he's probably been a little better over the last 3 years. But, yes, CP3 is clearly a better shooter.

Never mind, edited this post because I mis read what you wrote.

[Vermont Green]

Can you imagine how much easier it would be for everyone on the Celtics to score if we had a PG who they actually had to cover?  There is no stat for that but if you watch the games, you see it makes a big difference.

I like Rondo, great guy, gutsy, all that but Chris Paul would change everything.  Not only would his man need to stay on him but in many cases he would create a double team, which would lead to mismatches, which would lead to much more efficient offence.

On Defense, I don't know who is better but either is good enough. PG defense doesn't change games unless it is really bad.

Chris Paul + Big 3 Plus even Krstic or any serviceable center would extend the window for 2 maybe 3 years.

[wiley]

Can you imagine how much easier it would be for everyone on the Celtics to score if we had a PG who they actually had to cover?  There is no stat for that but if you watch the games, you see it makes a big difference.

I like Rondo, great guy, gutsy, all that but Chris Paul would change everything.  Not only would his man need to stay on him but in many cases he would create a double team, which would lead to mismatches, which would lead to much more efficient offence.

On Defense, I don't know who is better but either is good enough. PG defense doesn't change games unless it is really bad.

Chris Paul + Big 3 Plus even Krstic or any serviceable center would extend the window for 2 maybe 3 years.

I disagree, unless you can also get a heck of a center too, but then, if you can get that nice center too Rondo is enough too.  Without a center like pre-injury Perk, or DeAndre Jordan or Chandler or something along those lines, you can't beat Miami even with Chris Paul.  And with a center like that you can beat Miami with Rondo, or with Chris Paul.  It doesn't matter.  That's why I wouldn't give up Rondo, Green and two first rounders, including one that could be star with little luck from the Clippers.....

[StartOrien]

I think this team needs more offense, and I don't think any center available outside of Dwight Howard is going to give it to us. I'll take Chris Paul and a center who can block shots, catch passes and dunk.

[wiley]

I think this team needs more offense, and I don't think any center available outside of Dwight Howard is going to give it to us. I'll take Chris Paul and a center who can block shots, catch passes and dunk.

That center is not Kristic, and I take your description of said center's play to mean you disagree with people who are saying Paul, Allen, Pierce, Garnett and Kristic are contenders (especially after giving up Green and 2 first rounders).  The Celtics would have beaten the Heat this year with a healthy Rondo and a center like the one you describe above.  A full year of Green instead of Baby will also help the offense.

[StartOrien]

I think this team needs more offense, and I don't think any center available outside of Dwight Howard is going to give it to us. I'll take Chris Paul and a center who can block shots, catch passes and dunk.

That center is not Kristic, and I take your description of said center's play to mean you disagree with people who are saying Paul, Allen, Pierce, Garnett and Kristic are contenders (especially after giving up Green and 2 first rounders).  The Celtics would have beaten the Heat this year with a healthy Rondo and a center like the one you describe above.  A full year of Green instead of Baby will also help the offense.

I wouldn't say I completely disagree that the C's as presently constructed could beat the Heat next year. But I think they're better w/ CP3

[zimbo]

I am listening to a DA interview right now that was put up today. He basically said "absolutely not" to trading Rondo, but he "might" look into trading one of the Big 3 if the deal was good. So yeah a trade wouldn't likely happen. Gotta wait in line with the other desperate teams to sign CP3 in next year's FA.

[RJ87]

CP3 ain't walkin through that door, folks.

Sorry to burst everyone's bubble - but it's a pipedream, at best.

Why?

Because in order for a trade to go down involving Rondo & CP3, Chris would have to agree to a longterm extension. As much of a mad scientist as Danny can be sometimes, there's no way he pulls the trigger on a trade like this unless he knows he has CP3 locked up for a few years. Quite frankly, I have considerable doubts that CP3 would sign an extension with Boston. I mean, why would he? Allegedly, he really wants to go to NY to play with Amar'e & Melo - and with our Big 3 on the downside of their careers and those NY guys in their primes, why would he commit to a rebuilding phase?

[StartOrien]

I am listening to a DA interview right now that was put up today. He basically said "absolutely not" to trading Rondo, but he "might" look into trading one of the Big 3 if the deal was good. So yeah a trade wouldn't likely happen. Gotta wait in line with the other desperate teams to sign CP3 in next year's FA.

Because Danny Ainge has always been 100% truthful

[zimbo]

I am listening to a DA interview right now that was put up today. He basically said "absolutely not" to trading Rondo, but he "might" look into trading one of the Big 3 if the deal was good. So yeah a trade wouldn't likely happen. Gotta wait in line with the other desperate teams to sign CP3 in next year's FA.

Because Danny Ainge has always been 100% truthful

Oh, he said never say never, but that was still followed up by "absolutely not" and he sounded pretty adamant that this was not one of his plans. But let's be serious, it's really not about being truthful, it's about the likelihood that this trade will ever happen. Let's not forget DA was very willing to trade Rondo 2 seasons ago. He got Rondo to sign a low budget contract. This makes Rondo attractive to the C's. Why take on CP3's hefty contract when he most likely won't sign an extension and leave as once FA begins. We will be w/o a quality PG and lottery bound for seasons to come. It really makes no sense to do this trade if it will not help out in the long term.

[The DarkPassenger]

I am listening to a DA interview right now that was put up today. He basically said "absolutely not" to trading Rondo, but he "might" look into trading one of the Big 3 if the deal was good. So yeah a trade wouldn't likely happen. Gotta wait in line with the other desperate teams to sign CP3 in next year's FA.

Because Danny Ainge has always been 100% truthful

When it comes down to Rondo I too think Danny is being honest. I know that things change with time and that if the "perfect deal" comes I can see him pulling the trigger on a trade but it would have to be a HUGE name and a stupid team.

I don't think Danny would give up Rondo unless he really, really had to. Like if Rondo ceases to be productive and progress into the top PG or injury issues. He'd trade away Ray or KG before thinking of Rondo, hate to say that he'd entertain trading Pierce even before Rondo but I think Pierce is off limits.

[gpap]

Honestly I'd give up Rondo and the LAC #1 without a guarantee that Paul signs an extension.  I'd give it one more go next year in that situation and see what happened.  I would certainly push hard for Paul to sign an extension before becoming a free agent, but if he elected to move on, then so be it and the C's go into full on rebuilding with the rest of the 2012 free agent class and/or lottery picks going forward (Pierce might retire if the C's don't land anyone of note in 2012, which would make the team awful leading to a high draft pick).

Next year is the last window with this group, you either have to go all in or blow it up this summer.  The status quo just won't work.

Very well said. Simply bringing back the big 3 and adding a couple of mid to lower tier players just won't do anything.

It's a lateral move and the Celtics are getting bounced again in the second round of the playoffs this time next year.

Danny Ainge needs to be really bold and creative this offseason for there to be anything more than a glimmer of hope next year.

Either go all in and trade for a big name to complement the team, EVEN if he only has one year remaining under contract OR blow it up.

[jr_3421]

The problem with this trade is that Rondo is such a wild card. His value fluctuates all around the league. There is no way of knowing how New Orleans would value him. But if I'm Danny, I would do everything thing I can to make this trade without Jeff Green.