Reasonable Glen Davis S&T Ideas.

[LooseCannon]

If you were a GM on another team, and Glen Davis was unrestricted, why would you even do a S&T instead of sign him outright?  And if you had to give up a little bit just for the comfort of knowing you got him, what level draft pick would you be willing to give?

Since I don't know what the next CBA will be like, I will answer this under the assumptions of the current CBA.

One reason to do a S&T is if you are over the cap and plan on using the MLE on someone else.  Of course, if you did that, you would have to send out actual salary and not just a draft pick.  Well, unless you had a trade exception you could use.

Another reason is if you want to give Davis the 10.5% annual salary increase that a team can give its own free agents rather than the 8% than a team can give free agents signed from other teams.  That's probably worth at most a second-round pick, but Davis is unlikely to command a high enough salary where that matters.

There might be other reasons, but those are two off the top of my head.

[angryguy77]

If DA is hungry, I'm sure he could get a PB&J for him.
or maybe a bag of chips

[celts55]

If Baby loses 20-25 lbs? Wishful thinking. If he were ever going to do that, he probably would have by now. I keep saying, if Shaq lost 35-40 lbs he'd be able to give us one more quality season. . . . but that's not likely to happen either.

True that.  If a guy's not keeping himself in the best shape he can during this season, when's the going to?  I mean, this year was likely Baby's best opportunity to win another Championship, *and* he's an unrestricted free agent.  If those two factors aren't enough motivation, what is?

If I'm another GM, I'd REALLY hesitate to offer a multiyear deal.  Baby Davis is about three Royales With Cheese away from being Oliver Miller II, or Mike Sweetney Jr, or any of the other talented big men who've eaten their way out of the league.  Thank God he doesn't have a three pointer or the
Antoine comparisons would be deafening.

To be honest, I'm not so sure you could get three Royales with cheese (whatever those are) for him at this point.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLtwFugudZE

Dam, that's a mighty tasty burger!

[vinnie]

He hasnt been the same player since the "patella tendon strain"
on the first week of March.
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/03/celtics-glen-davis-suffers-patella-tendon-strain-mri-thursday/


He hasnt had the same lift he had previously.Baby is already undersized, Baby with no lift is just ineffective.He will be resigned at a minimal cost, you dont trade players when there value is at a all-time low.

Injuries don't account for his p----poor decision making.  I think he's under the impression that they give more points for shots with a high degree of difficulty.  

And has been noted, little chance of a S&T because at this point, Baby's a fringe rotation player that'll be lucky to get a multiyear contract offer.  I was thinking earlier he'd command something like 3/$10M-$12M (Ryan Gomes-like money); I'm wondering now if it'll be even that much.  

His knee is not right. He doesnt have the same lift. If you know you cant jump, isnt the better decision to take the open 12ft jumper rather than get blocked or turn the ball over trying to take it to the rim?
Doc has no problem playing Rondo 38 minutes with one arm I dont think he has a problem playing Davis with one good knee?
We have been watching Glen for a four years now and right now he isnt the same player. I think he is injured

I tend to think the weight he has added might be more of a problem than his knee.

[Celticsfan336]

What if we offered the full MLE to Deandre Jordan, and if The Clippers matched we could offer Glen Davis? How much is Jordan going to be worth this summer... with the success of Tyson Chandler and the reputation of Javale McGee he could really get quite a bit 

I like the idea of Kenyon Martin though, but what does he think he's worth at this point?

Deandre is exactly what we need. A young, big, physical and talented center

[Change]

A coupon at Olive Garden.

[JBcat]

I tend to think like a few others it will be hard to do a sign and trade with Baby probably getting under the MLE.   If we were to somehow do deal for someone like Marcus Camby I'd be all over it. 

[snowball]

Baby would trade his career for a Bacon Double.
 

[KungPoweChicken]

I honestly think Glen Davis' play as of late has assured him a minimum or near minimum contract. So you would have to look at minimum or near minimum contract players for a sign and trade. I'd be interested in Donte Greene, Joey Graham, and Jon Brockman to throw a few names out there. Maybe I'm underestimating Davis' value. But I definitely don't see him landing a Nick Young or a Marvin Williams.

[JoT]

If Baby loses 20-25 lbs? Wishful thinking. If he were ever going to do that, he probably would have by now. I keep saying, if Shaq lost 35-40 lbs he'd be able to give us one more quality season. . . . but that's not likely to happen either.

That's my issue with him. He knows this is his year to gain  high value and not only has he under perform in the playoffs, but he gained about 20-25 lbs.
I think though he maybe injured or may have something going on because I think he knows that a championship is on the line and he's a intricate part in winning a championship, but for some reason he hasn't performed well and it isn't helping his value at all. Whatever it is he needs to get it together because the teams hopes this year is on the line along with his future on any team. I hope he doesn't eat himself out of the NBA because that will heartbreaking for me especially watching his story on The Association.

[317]

Thaddeus Young. his qualifying offer will be just under 1 million less then Davis made this year. hes a very good defensive 2/3/4 who also can finish at the rim.

[get_banners]

Yeah, I seriously wonder if Davis' knee issue limited his ability to run much besides game days. Little cardio for Baby = blowing up weight-wise. He's not Ray Allen re: diet. I'm not going to jump all over him for that, because most young guys aren't that conscious. Anyway...I just have a hard time imagining he let himself go when it was a contract year, especially given how well he played for much of the season. I really think the weight-gain might be injury-related.

[chambers]

do you guys want to know how to keep his weight down?
Put it in his contract.
Right now he has a clause that says he has to keep his weight down but he is obviously injured on multiple levels. The guy can't jump and hasn't been able to jump since he sat out those few games.

If he stays, put it in his contract that he has to keep his weight even lower than it is and design a cardio program that isn't putting pressure on his knees ie swimming + cycling.

Remember what his weight was like as a rookie/second year?
Simple fix= contract. He likes money more than food.                                                                                 

[aporel#18]

I've heard the Patriots could use some help at the Offensive Line. Do you think Belichick would send us a 4th or 5th rounder for him?

I bet they'll resign him, one-year deal for limited money in order to have another chip in a future trade. His stock can only rise if he keeps himself away from fast food.

They also could S&T him, although it's unlikely, if they pack him with the Marquis trade exception. Some team could save some money, and owners love money more than Baby loves pancakes.

[xmuscularghandix]

Judging by his post game comments he's gone.