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Reasonable Glen Davis S&T Ideas.
« on: May 11, 2011, 02:11:58 AM »

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Who's got any? Let's get them up in here!

Andre Blatche?

Ron Artest? (Lakers don't want Glen, they've used him)

Marvin Williams?

Nick Young?

Deandre Jordan?

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Re: Reasonable Glen Davis S&T Ideas.
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2011, 02:26:10 AM »

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How about KMart or Al Thornton?
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Re: Reasonable Glen Davis S&T Ideas.
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2011, 02:50:36 AM »

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What if we offered the full MLE to Deandre Jordan, and if The Clippers matched we could offer Glen Davis? How much is Jordan going to be worth this summer... with the success of Tyson Chandler and the reputation of Javale McGee he could really get quite a bit  ::)

I like the idea of Kenyon Martin though, but what does he think he's worth at this point?

Re: Reasonable Glen Davis S&T Ideas.
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2011, 02:57:17 AM »

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Given his play as of late, I don't think he would command more than the MLE, and as such (if there is an MLE) most teams would not need to do a sign and trade.

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« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2011, 05:57:56 AM »

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Under current CBA spending Glen would not get the MLE from anyone.  And since the new CBA is projecting lower player salaries, that pretty much guarantees he won't be anywhere close.

At this point I think if we could somehow get a 2nd round draft pick for him that'd be ideal. 

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Under current CBA spending Glen would not get the MLE from anyone.  And since the new CBA is projecting lower player salaries, that pretty much guarantees he won't be anywhere close.

At this point I think if we could somehow get a 2nd round draft pick for him that'd be ideal. 

What!? he's worth more than that! for gods sake!
Give the guy some credibility!
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None of the names mentioned in the original post could be gotten by trading Glen Davis.

Don't make the mistake of overvaluing Big Baby, particularly after his performance in these playoffs.  Given the way he's played the last few months, I'd guess that Glen will simply walk in the offseason, because he's played himself out of having any of the trade value he might have had earlier in the year.

Under current CBA spending Glen would not get the MLE from anyone.  And since the new CBA is projecting lower player salaries, that pretty much guarantees he won't be anywhere close.

At this point I think if we could somehow get a 2nd round draft pick for him that'd be ideal. 

What!? he's worth more than that! for gods sake!
Give the guy some credibility!

A 2nd round pick is probably fair value for Glen Davis, assuming it's relatively high in the second round.  Maybe we could persuade some team to give us a late first rounder for him. 

He really isn't worth more than that.  He's an inefficient, ball-hog, undersized, relatively out of shape PF with a decent but rather inconsistent mid-range jumpshot and weak rebounding ability.  He also has basically no potential to become anything more than he is now, even though he's young.
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« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2011, 07:05:02 AM »

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Under current CBA spending Glen would not get the MLE from anyone.  And since the new CBA is projecting lower player salaries, that pretty much guarantees he won't be anywhere close.

At this point I think if we could somehow get a 2nd round draft pick for him that'd be ideal. 

What!? he's worth more than that! for gods sake!
Give the guy some credibility!

I like BBD, though I'm a little disappointed that he has not been more effective in the postseason.  However, the reality is that a lot of teams are not spending money right now.  Look what we pay Shaq and Jermaine.  In a regular year he's perhaps a MLE guy, but I don't see it happening in the current environment.

Re: Reasonable Glen Davis S&T Ideas.
« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2011, 08:47:47 AM »

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Who's got any? Let's get them up in here!

Andre Blatche?

Ron Artest? (Lakers don't want Glen, they've used him)

Marvin Williams?

Nick Young?

Deandre Jordan?



  Ron Artest = subtraction by addition.

Re: Reasonable Glen Davis S&T Ideas.
« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2011, 08:53:23 AM »

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Here's my idea for reasonable:
No S&T.

(a) He'll probably get an offer less than the MLE, so there is no need to engage in a S&T (the other team will just sign him outright).

(b) Danny is clearly trying to maintain cap flexibility going forward (i.e.: 2012 and beyond), so won't want to take back a big contract.

(c) Cs already have a lot of salary on the books for the 2011-2012 season, each additional dollar basically counts twice at this point.  

(a) + (b) + (c) --> he walks.
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Re: Reasonable Glen Davis S&T Ideas.
« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2011, 09:06:47 AM »

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The odds of a sign and trade involving BBD are very low and the odds of getting something of significance are even lower again.

Davis is unrestricted free agent who will command less than the MLE. Any team in the league can sign him outright without costing themselves an additional asset (in a sign and trade). The Celtics have no leverage here. And BBD doesn't have all that much value individually either.

Best to assume there will be no S+T for Big Baby.

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« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2011, 09:07:44 AM »

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He hasnt been the same player since the "patella tendon strain"
on the first week of March.
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/03/celtics-glen-davis-suffers-patella-tendon-strain-mri-thursday/


He hasnt had the same lift he had previously.Baby is already undersized, Baby with no lift is just ineffective.He will be resigned at a minimal cost, you dont trade players when there value is at a all-time low.


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Under current CBA spending Glen would not get the MLE from anyone.  And since the new CBA is projecting lower player salaries, that pretty much guarantees he won't be anywhere close.

At this point I think if we could somehow get a 2nd round draft pick for him that'd be ideal. 

What!? he's worth more than that! for gods sake!
Give the guy some credibility!

I dont really think he's much more than that at all. After the way hes played in these playoffs this year, I would offer him to any team straight up for a 3rd round draft pick.

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« Reply #13 on: May 11, 2011, 09:15:45 AM »

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He hasnt been the same player since the "patella tendon strain"
on the first week of March.
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/03/celtics-glen-davis-suffers-patella-tendon-strain-mri-thursday/


He hasnt had the same lift he had previously.Baby is already undersized, Baby with no lift is just ineffective.He will be resigned at a minimal cost, you dont trade players when there value is at a all-time low.



Injuries don't account for his p----poor decision making.  I think he's under the impression that they give more points for shots with a high degree of difficulty.  

And has been noted, little chance of a S&T because at this point, Baby's a fringe rotation player that'll be lucky to get a multiyear contract offer.  I was thinking earlier he'd command something like 3/$10M-$12M (Ryan Gomes-like money); I'm wondering now if it'll be even that much.  

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« Reply #14 on: May 11, 2011, 09:27:41 AM »

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He hasnt been the same player since the "patella tendon strain"
on the first week of March.
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/03/celtics-glen-davis-suffers-patella-tendon-strain-mri-thursday/


He hasnt had the same lift he had previously.Baby is already undersized, Baby with no lift is just ineffective.He will be resigned at a minimal cost, you dont trade players when there value is at a all-time low.



Injuries don't account for his p----poor decision making.  I think he's under the impression that they give more points for shots with a high degree of difficulty.  

And has been noted, little chance of a S&T because at this point, Baby's a fringe rotation player that'll be lucky to get a multiyear contract offer.  I was thinking earlier he'd command something like 3/$10M-$12M (Ryan Gomes-like money); I'm wondering now if it'll be even that much.  

His knee is not right. He doesnt have the same lift. If you know you cant jump, isnt the better decision to take the open 12ft jumper rather than get blocked or turn the ball over trying to take it to the rim?
Doc has no problem playing Rondo 38 minutes with one arm I dont think he has a problem playing Davis with one good knee?
We have been watching Glen for a four years now and right now he isnt the same player. I think he is injured
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