"...and thats why they play the game."

[Celticsfan336]

I love coming onto the thread and speculating every game and every series, tahts why we are all here.

but ive come to the conclusion:
Optimists are gonna be optimistic and doubters are gonna doubt. Thats the way it is. I've been an optimist since the end of game 1, and still am. Doubters said the sereis was over after game 1, and still beleive the celtics have no chance.

thats why they play the game though. They could have handed the patriots the superbowl in 07 vs the giants before it started, hell, analysts were predicting 4-5 td vicotry for the pats. we all know how that ends.

Who's to say lebron doesnt hurt? Wade doesnt aggrivate his ankle? Bosh disapears for the rest of the series? The Refs give us some calls? Mabye none of those happen, and we get ran off the court come Wedndsday....but "thats why they play the game."

Sure, Rondo is hurting, so is shaq, our offense struggles in late games, and BBD is playing terrible. who's to say all or none change in the rest of the series? once again, "thats why they play the game."

We don't know whats going on in the Locker rooms....Mabye the celtics truly believe they can win this series and will come out with the heart of a champion, mabye the heat think they already won the series and come out lethargic OR, mabye the Celtics are run down, and come out flat and the Heat know the Celtics have champions and they know they cant let this slip. But youll never truly know what the mentality in a locker room is until they come on the court and give you evidence.."thats why they play the game."

Mabye, just mabye Lebron and Wade don't hit miraculous shots and go ice cold, or mabye Bosh lights up Garnett, or vice versa....

Mabye the Celtics execute on both ends for 48 minutes, mabye they just aren't capable of doing that against Miami.

Mabye Miami runs us off the court, or mabye the celtics battle and drag this series out and steal game 7.

Who knows.........But that is why they play the game. People will speculate, and positive people are going to be positive, and 'realists,' or sometimes skeptics, will believe what they will.

Hollinger can predict stats, we can predict games, I said in the begiging the Celtics were gonna sweep and Rondo would be the MVP. Mabye he has a miracuous performace in all these games, or mabye he doesn't.

Mabye, just mabye, but after all the mabyes, or what if this happens or the "this is impossible" or the "theres no way"'s are over, they still have to play the game.

[Cman]

great post, great topic.
TP.

See you on Weds!

[mc34]

Great post. Just gotta take this one at a time. If we pull out game 5, we then just have to win a game 6 at the garden to force an "anything can happen" game 7. That sounds so much better than "gotta win 3 straight with 2 on the road." TP.

[BASS_THUMPER]

nice

*eatin capt peanut butter crunch*

[PosImpos]

Rondo's torn ligaments could totally heal in 2 days and with two healthy arms, Rondo could suddenly have the ability to shoot like Chris Paul.

"That's why they play the game."

Right?

[samantha28]

Great post! You never know! I love optimists. TP!

[Celticsfan336]

Rondo's torn ligaments could totally heal in 2 days and with two healthy arms, Rondo could suddenly have the ability to shoot like Chris Paul.

"That's why they play the game."

Right?

Well, first off...Rondo doesn't have any torn ligaments and if youve ever dislocated anything it feels its worst/sorest a day or two after the injury(game 4) Not to say its going to be near healthy, but it will feel better than it did in game 4.

And you must not have read the post...Here, ill help you.

............
but ive come to the conclusion:
Optimists are gonna be optimistic and doubters are gonna doubt. Thats the way it is.
......
......
Rondo is hurting, so is shaq, our offense struggles in late games, and BBD is playing terrible. who's to say all or none change in the rest of the series? once again, "thats why they play the game."
.......
.......
Hollinger can predict stats, we can predict games, I said in the begiging the Celtics were gonna sweep and Rondo would be the MVP. Mabye he has a miracuous performace in all these games, or mabye he doesn't.

-When did I mention Chris Paul?
-When did I Rondo shooting the ball better? (Infact, love when he doesn't shoot jumpshots)
-When did I mention anything about his arm being 100% healed?
-All I said was, mabye the warrior that is Rajon Rondo is effective in these next game(s), or mabye he won't be. That's all I said.

That IS exactly why they play the game.

[PosImpos]

Rondo's torn ligaments could totally heal in 2 days and with two healthy arms, Rondo could suddenly have the ability to shoot like Chris Paul.

"That's why they play the game."

Right?

Well, first off...Rondo doesn't have any torn ligaments and if youve ever dislocated anything it feels its worst/sorest a day or two after the injury(game 4) Not to say its going to be near healthy, but it will feel better than it did in game 4.

And you must not have read the post...Here, ill help you.

............
but ive come to the conclusion:
Optimists are gonna be optimistic and doubters are gonna doubt. Thats the way it is.
......
......
Rondo is hurting, so is shaq, our offense struggles in late games, and BBD is playing terrible. who's to say all or none change in the rest of the series? once again, "thats why they play the game."
.......
.......
Hollinger can predict stats, we can predict games, I said in the begiging the Celtics were gonna sweep and Rondo would be the MVP. Mabye he has a miracuous performace in all these games, or mabye he doesn't.

-When did I mention Chris Paul?
-When did I Rondo shooting the ball better? (Infact, love when he doesn't shoot jumpshots)
-When did I mention anything about his arm being 100% healed?
-All I said was, mabye the warrior that is Rajon Rondo is effective in these next game(s), or mabye he won't be. That's all I said.

That IS exactly why they play the game.

Actually, Rondo does have torn ligaments in his arm.  There's a post elsewhere on the forum discussing this.  It's impossible to dislocate your elbow without damaging ligaments to at least some degree.

http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=47666.msg999873;topicseen#new

I'm well aware that you didn't explicitly mention any of those things; the point is, it's all good and well to say "that's why they play the game," but just because any number of things could technically happen, it doesn't mean there's any real chance that they will.  This team isn't just going to start playing completely differently than they've played over the past 3 months.  What you see is what you get -- and it's not good enough to beat the Miami Heat 4 times out of 7 right now.

[Celticsfan336]

Rondo's torn ligaments could totally heal in 2 days and with two healthy arms, Rondo could suddenly have the ability to shoot like Chris Paul.

"That's why they play the game."

Right?

Well, first off...Rondo doesn't have any torn ligaments and if youve ever dislocated anything it feels its worst/sorest a day or two after the injury(game 4) Not to say its going to be near healthy, but it will feel better than it did in game 4.

And you must not have read the post...Here, ill help you.

............
but ive come to the conclusion:
Optimists are gonna be optimistic and doubters are gonna doubt. Thats the way it is.
......
......
Rondo is hurting, so is shaq, our offense struggles in late games, and BBD is playing terrible. who's to say all or none change in the rest of the series? once again, "thats why they play the game."
.......
.......
Hollinger can predict stats, we can predict games, I said in the begiging the Celtics were gonna sweep and Rondo would be the MVP. Mabye he has a miracuous performace in all these games, or mabye he doesn't.

-When did I mention Chris Paul?
-When did I Rondo shooting the ball better? (Infact, love when he doesn't shoot jumpshots)
-When did I mention anything about his arm being 100% healed?
-All I said was, mabye the warrior that is Rajon Rondo is effective in these next game(s), or mabye he won't be. That's all I said.

That IS exactly why they play the game.

Actually, Rondo does have torn ligaments in his arm.  There's a post elsewhere on the forum discussing this.  It's impossible to dislocate your elbow without damaging ligaments to at least some degree.

I'm well aware that you didn't explicitly mention any of those things; the point is, it's all good and well to say "that's why they play the game," but just because any number of things could technically happen, it doesn't mean there's any real chance that they will.  This team isn't just going to start playing completely differently than they've played over the past 3 months.  What you see is what you get -- and it's not good enough to beat the Miami Heat 4 times out of 7 right now.

If he had a bad tear in any ligament in his elbow he would not be able to play. Obviously, the ligament damage is minimal if the MRI was negative and he played both after the injury, and the next game. After the treatment he has gotten, his elbow will feel better than it has the last couple days.

And, your going to be a pessimist no matter what anyone says. But your acting as if they dont even have to play the game. Like I said, just crown Miami, don't even make them play game 5. Count out the team that has 4 champions in their starting lineup. Count out a team that has surprised us many times before. Fine with me, and negativity isn't illegal, it's the first ammendment. But the fact that you are completely giving this  team 0% chance to make this series interesting is quite saddening. If their is no real chance, then don't even watch the game. Don't even look at updates the next day, because the way you make it sound there is no point for you to even watch the game.

And the Celtics have been in every game and haven't executed in the last minutes, granted thats the most important part of the game...but don't act like they have gotten run off the court every game.

It's good to know some Celtics fans don't have a single ounce of faith in the team they have had faith in for the last 4 years, (or mabye not)

But still, they have to play the game. Who's to say their was a "real chance" that the Giants would beat the Pats, or the Red Sox would come back to beat the Yankees, or the Celtics would beat the Sixers in 81, or the Flyers would be beat the Bruins last year down 3-0, or the Mav's would sweep the Lakers and beat them by 40 in the closing game, or the Spurs would lose to an 8 seed, or the Bills would beat the Oilers, or the Warriors would beat the Mavs, Douglas would knock out Tyson, or the Nuggets would come back down 2-0 vs. the 1 seed, or the Jets would beat Colts, or the Pats would win the superbowl with Brady as their QB in 2001, or the Miracle On Ice?

Ironic that those are all off the top of my head.

But hey, the Champion Boston Celtics have no "real" shot to win the series. They might as well not even play these next game(s) right?

[PosImpos]

Rondo's torn ligaments could totally heal in 2 days and with two healthy arms, Rondo could suddenly have the ability to shoot like Chris Paul.

"That's why they play the game."

Right?

Well, first off...Rondo doesn't have any torn ligaments and if youve ever dislocated anything it feels its worst/sorest a day or two after the injury(game 4) Not to say its going to be near healthy, but it will feel better than it did in game 4.

And you must not have read the post...Here, ill help you.

............
but ive come to the conclusion:
Optimists are gonna be optimistic and doubters are gonna doubt. Thats the way it is.
......
......
Rondo is hurting, so is shaq, our offense struggles in late games, and BBD is playing terrible. who's to say all or none change in the rest of the series? once again, "thats why they play the game."
.......
.......
Hollinger can predict stats, we can predict games, I said in the begiging the Celtics were gonna sweep and Rondo would be the MVP. Mabye he has a miracuous performace in all these games, or mabye he doesn't.

-When did I mention Chris Paul?
-When did I Rondo shooting the ball better? (Infact, love when he doesn't shoot jumpshots)
-When did I mention anything about his arm being 100% healed?
-All I said was, mabye the warrior that is Rajon Rondo is effective in these next game(s), or mabye he won't be. That's all I said.

That IS exactly why they play the game.

Actually, Rondo does have torn ligaments in his arm.  There's a post elsewhere on the forum discussing this.  It's impossible to dislocate your elbow without damaging ligaments to at least some degree.

I'm well aware that you didn't explicitly mention any of those things; the point is, it's all good and well to say "that's why they play the game," but just because any number of things could technically happen, it doesn't mean there's any real chance that they will.  This team isn't just going to start playing completely differently than they've played over the past 3 months.  What you see is what you get -- and it's not good enough to beat the Miami Heat 4 times out of 7 right now.

He has "sore" ligaments. If he had a tear in any ligament in his elbow he would not be able to play. After the treatment he has gotten, his elbow will feel better than it has the last couple days.

And, your going to be a pessimist no matter what anyone says. But your acting as if they dont even have to play the game. Like I said, just crown Miami, don't even make them play game 5. Count out the team that has 4 champions in their starting lineup. Count out a team that has surprised us many times before. Fine with me, and negativity isn't illegal, it's the first ammendment. But the fact that you are completely giving this  team 0% chance to make this series interesting is quite saddening. If their is no real chance, then don't even watch the game. Don't even look at updates the next day, because the way you make it sound there is no point for you to even watch the game.

And the Celtics have been in every game and haven't executed in the last minutes, granted thats the most important part of the game...but don't act like they have gotten run off the court every game.

It's good to know some Celtics fans don't have a single ounce of faith in the team they have had faith in for the last 4 years, (or mabye not)

But still, they have to play the game. Who's to say their was a "real chance" that the Giants would beat the Pats, or the Red Sox would come back to beat the Yankees, or the Celtics would beat the Sixers in 81, or the Flyers would be beat the Bruins last year down 3-0, or the Mav's would sweep the Lakers and beat them by 40 in the closing game, or the Spurs would lose to an 8 seed, or the Bills would beat the Oilers, or the Warriors would beat the Mavs, Douglas would knock out Tyson, or the Nuggets would come back down 2-0 vs. the 1 seed, or the Jets would beat Colts, or the Pats would win the superbowl with Brady as their QB in 2001, or the Miracle On Ice?

Ironic that those are all off the top of my heat.

But hey, the Champion Boston Celtics have no "real" shot to win the series. They might as well not even play these next game(s) right?

Stranger things have happened; it's possible that the Celtics could still win this series.

My point is that it's not going to happen by one or all of the players on the team suddenly playing much differently and much better than they have played up to this point.  If they are going to win, it's going to happen by continuing to play the best they can and hope to get some lucky breaks and come out on top.  We saw in Game 3 that they are capable of beating the Heat right now. 

But unless they are lucky enough to have 3 straight games like that, I don't think they're going to be playing for much longer.

[Celticsfan336]

But game 3 wasn't luck, neither was game 1,2, and 4 for the Heat. These teams are pretty evenly matched.

The Celtics take game 5, they are back home, they win that game....it's a game 7.

Not to mention the pressure the Heat would be under if the Celtics win game 5. Then game 6. Plus, its hard to predict the mentalities of these guys.

PLUS

We've never seen the Celtics play down 3-1 with their backs against the wall. Lets hope they play well. Let's hope the Heat choke

[Shamrocker]

Rondo's torn ligaments could totally heal in 2 days and with two healthy arms, Rondo could suddenly have the ability to shoot like Chris Paul.

"That's why they play the game."

Right?

Well, first off...Rondo doesn't have any torn ligaments and if youve ever dislocated anything it feels its worst/sorest a day or two after the injury(game 4) Not to say its going to be near healthy, but it will feel better than it did in game 4.

And you must not have read the post...Here, ill help you.

............
but ive come to the conclusion:
Optimists are gonna be optimistic and doubters are gonna doubt. Thats the way it is.
......
......
Rondo is hurting, so is shaq, our offense struggles in late games, and BBD is playing terrible. who's to say all or none change in the rest of the series? once again, "thats why they play the game."
.......
.......
Hollinger can predict stats, we can predict games, I said in the begiging the Celtics were gonna sweep and Rondo would be the MVP. Mabye he has a miracuous performace in all these games, or mabye he doesn't.

-When did I mention Chris Paul?
-When did I Rondo shooting the ball better? (Infact, love when he doesn't shoot jumpshots)
-When did I mention anything about his arm being 100% healed?
-All I said was, mabye the warrior that is Rajon Rondo is effective in these next game(s), or mabye he won't be. That's all I said.

That IS exactly why they play the game.

Actually, Rondo does have torn ligaments in his arm.  There's a post elsewhere on the forum discussing this.  It's impossible to dislocate your elbow without damaging ligaments to at least some degree.

http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=47666.msg999873;topicseen#new

I'm well aware that you didn't explicitly mention any of those things; the point is, it's all good and well to say "that's why they play the game," but just because any number of things could technically happen, it doesn't mean there's any real chance that they will.  This team isn't just going to start playing completely differently than they've played over the past 3 months.  What you see is what you get -- and it's not good enough to beat the Miami Heat 4 times out of 7 right now.

Despite daunting odds some us of choose to believe. Maybe we’ll get blown out. Perhaps, tomorrow, you’ll be proven correct. But, I have to ask, what will you gain? You had the foresight to predict our demise ahead of time. Congratulations. You made Celtics fan face reality. Good for you.  I understand why some would question our ability to rally, but I can’t understand why someone would post those views to a topic implicitly created for optimists. Notice in two hours, you’re the only cynic to post here. Why is that?

If you don’t believe, that’s fine. Go create a topic, and discuss it. But, please, let us believe.

 Cynics and skeptics don’t determine basketball games, players do.

[KGDunks]

Rondo is looking bad but maybe he might get better.

[mc34]

I have dislocated my elbow, had it popped back into place, then re-injured it again the next day. Needless to say there was ligament damage. But with dislocation, one or two days can make ALL the difference. Your range of motion increases drastically day-to-day. My guess is Rondo's ligament damage is relatively minor. I'm not saying Rondo will be fully healthy, but a couple days and a lot of the swelling in Rondo's arm should be down, especially considering the kind of treatment NBA players are able to get on their injuries.

[PosImpos]

Rondo's torn ligaments could totally heal in 2 days and with two healthy arms, Rondo could suddenly have the ability to shoot like Chris Paul.

"That's why they play the game."

Right?

Well, first off...Rondo doesn't have any torn ligaments and if youve ever dislocated anything it feels its worst/sorest a day or two after the injury(game 4) Not to say its going to be near healthy, but it will feel better than it did in game 4.

And you must not have read the post...Here, ill help you.

............
but ive come to the conclusion:
Optimists are gonna be optimistic and doubters are gonna doubt. Thats the way it is.
......
......
Rondo is hurting, so is shaq, our offense struggles in late games, and BBD is playing terrible. who's to say all or none change in the rest of the series? once again, "thats why they play the game."
.......
.......
Hollinger can predict stats, we can predict games, I said in the begiging the Celtics were gonna sweep and Rondo would be the MVP. Mabye he has a miracuous performace in all these games, or mabye he doesn't.

-When did I mention Chris Paul?
-When did I Rondo shooting the ball better? (Infact, love when he doesn't shoot jumpshots)
-When did I mention anything about his arm being 100% healed?
-All I said was, mabye the warrior that is Rajon Rondo is effective in these next game(s), or mabye he won't be. That's all I said.

That IS exactly why they play the game.

Actually, Rondo does have torn ligaments in his arm.  There's a post elsewhere on the forum discussing this.  It's impossible to dislocate your elbow without damaging ligaments to at least some degree.

http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=47666.msg999873;topicseen#new

I'm well aware that you didn't explicitly mention any of those things; the point is, it's all good and well to say "that's why they play the game," but just because any number of things could technically happen, it doesn't mean there's any real chance that they will.  This team isn't just going to start playing completely differently than they've played over the past 3 months.  What you see is what you get -- and it's not good enough to beat the Miami Heat 4 times out of 7 right now.

Despite daunting odds some us of choose to believe. Maybe we’ll get blown out. Perhaps, tomorrow, you’ll be proven correct. But, I have to ask, what will you gain? You had the foresight to predict our demise ahead of time. Congratulations. You made Celtics fan face reality. Good for you.  I understand why some would question our ability to rally, but I can’t understand why someone would post those views to a topic implicitly created for optimists. Notice in two hours, you’re the only cynic to post here. Why is that?

If you don’t believe, that’s fine. Go create a topic, and discuss it. But, please, let us believe.

 Cynics and skeptics don’t determine basketball games, players do.

I may tend to be pessimistic when it comes to this year's team, but I do appreciate that some are optimistic, and I think even here there is some reason to be optimistic . . . just not very much.

My original purpose for posting in this topic was to point out that the sorts of things the original poster was hoping might happen are pretty far fetched.  This series has not been lost yet, and it's true that the Celtics could still manage to win it.  However, if they do it's going to involve a lot of luck and a lot of tough, grind-it-out performances.  

Enumerating all of the things that have been troubling the team for quite a while now and saying, "you never know, those things might suddenly change, that's why they play the game," is kind of silly.  E.g. Rondo is not going to spontaneously heal and learn to shoot, Glen Davis is not going to morph into a young Charles Barkely, and so on.

Rather, what we can hope is that many of the shots that didn't fall last night will fall, that the calls will tend to go our way more than they have, that the Celtics will manage to execute late in the game, that Lebron and Wade won't sink so many outside jumpers, that KG can contain Bosh and still score, and so on.