Doc River's coaching thread (merged)

[mc34]

Seriously? Rondo had a wide open layup. That's one of the best possible shots we could've had. Not sure if Doc made the right call either, but how can you blame KG for passing that to him?

[celticinorlando]

rondo played with torn ligaments in his elbow. kid shouldn't have been on the court. he played his ass off

[Atzar]

Seriously? Rondo had a wide open layup. That's one of the best possible shots we could've had. Not sure if Doc made the right call either, but how can you blame KG for passing that to him?

Who blamed KG for passing it to him?  The play was great; the result wasn't.  It happens.

KG is getting blamed for going 1-9 or whatever he was.  Like I said in another thread:  the effort was there, but the results weren't.  It just wasn't his night tonight.

[KungPoweChicken]

Doc isn't the reason we lost tonight.

... and neither is Rondo.

KG, maybe.  Lack of rebounding, definitely.

Rondo missed a crucial wide open layup that could have solidified the win. How does he not deserve a good deal of blame?

People miss layups.  Ray missed a FT -- is it his fault we lost? 

Our two worst players tonight were our power forwards.  When KG goes 1-for-10, I think it's hard to assign any large chunk of blame to Rondo.

Ray missed a free throw in the first half. Rondo missed a layup with less than one minute left that would have given the Celtics the lead. How do you equate a first half free throw to a potential game winning layup?

And people miss wide open layup? I would say, in the NBA, very, very, very rarely. In instructional league, yeah, it happens all the time. But in the NBA, not so much.

[lJesterl]

I've said since 2008 that doc is one of the bottom coaches in the league. Anyone could of took this team to the championship in 2008. His subs, rotations, plays and motivation is just garbage.

[mc34]

Seriously? Rondo had a wide open layup. That's one of the best possible shots we could've had. Not sure if Doc made the right call either, but how can you blame KG for passing that to him?

Who blamed KG for passing it to him?  The play was great; the result wasn't.  It happens.

KG is getting blamed for going 1-9 or whatever he was.  Like I said in another thread:  the effort was there, but the results weren't.  It just wasn't his night tonight.

The first post of this thread: "Equally as idiotic KG passing him the ball."

[Marcus13]

This will be interesting.  Does he stay with the team for it's final season together or does he bolt since we obviously wont be competing for a championship.  Interesting, indeed.

[EJPLAYA]

If Paul Pierce had hit that shot at the end of regulation you’d be begging Doc to stay. 

[ejk3489]

Doc isn't the reason we lost tonight.

... and neither is Rondo.

KG, maybe.  Lack of rebounding, definitely.

Rondo missed a crucial wide open layup that could have solidified the win. How does he not deserve a good deal of blame?

People miss layups.  Ray missed a FT -- is it his fault we lost?  

Our two worst players tonight were our power forwards.  When KG goes 1-for-10, I think it's hard to assign any large chunk of blame to Rondo.

Ray missed a free throw in the first half. Rondo missed a layup with less than one minute left that would have given the Celtics the lead. How do you equate a first half free throw to a potential game winning layup?

And people miss wide open layup? I would say, in the NBA, very, very, very rarely. In instructional league, yeah, it happens all the time. But in the NBA, not so much.

How about Pierce turning the ball over 3 times in the last 5 minutes of the game (one of them in the last 1.30 min of the game)? Or the missed shot at the end of the game? I'm guessing he doesn't get any of the blame...

And I personally don't blame Pierce for the loss, but if you're going to put this on Rondo for the missed lay up, than you have to do the same for Paul.

[celticinorlando]

you win as a team..lose as one...

[Who]

I was delighted when Rondo made that cut and had an open lane to the basket with KG eying him for the pass. It was a terrific high percentage shot attempt. Hard to get a better shot than that.

They'd be struggling for a few minutes and they got a wonderful break ... Rondo just blew the layup.

Still, I'd happily take my chances on him making that shot. Even with the injury given how he performed tonight. Happily take my chances with that. Just missed. Sometimes you miss. You get a great look and it just doesn't go down.

Unfortunate.

[angryguy77]

I've said since 2008 that doc is one of the bottom coaches in the league. Anyone could of took this team to the championship in 2008. His subs, rotations, plays and motivation is just garbage.

Everything he did this series defied logic. I not an expert but his decision making left me dumbfounded

[chambers]

Delonte was playing better and they were probably worried about Miami targeting Rondo for a free throw exchange.
When it really started to go south he finally went all in and hope that Rondo+delonte pressuring the ball might cause some turnovers.

Not the main reason he was out, but this is another issue brought on by his free throw shooting problems.


Lebron beat us by himself.
He took some horrible shots and sunk them. Nothing you can do.
Fadeaways, 1v1 threes with 10 seconds left on the clock all because he wanted to be the hero- and he was this time.
He took crappy shots we wanted him to take he just hit them.

[Atzar]

Seriously? Rondo had a wide open layup. That's one of the best possible shots we could've had. Not sure if Doc made the right call either, but how can you blame KG for passing that to him?

Who blamed KG for passing it to him?  The play was great; the result wasn't.  It happens.

KG is getting blamed for going 1-9 or whatever he was.  Like I said in another thread:  the effort was there, but the results weren't.  It just wasn't his night tonight.

The first post of this thread: "Equally as idiotic KG passing him the ball."

Fair enough.  I didn't see it, and wouldn't have taken it seriously if I had.

[KungPoweChicken]

Doc isn't the reason we lost tonight.

... and neither is Rondo.

KG, maybe.  Lack of rebounding, definitely.

Rondo missed a crucial wide open layup that could have solidified the win. How does he not deserve a good deal of blame?

People miss layups.  Ray missed a FT -- is it his fault we lost? 

Our two worst players tonight were our power forwards.  When KG goes 1-for-10, I think it's hard to assign any large chunk of blame to Rondo.

Ray missed a free throw in the first half. Rondo missed a layup with less than one minute left that would have given the Celtics the lead. How do you equate a first half free throw to a potential game winning layup?

And people miss wide open layup? I would say, in the NBA, very, very, very rarely. In instructional league, yeah, it happens all the time. But in the NBA, not so much.

How about Pierce turning the ball over 3 times in the last 5 minutes of the game (one of them in the last 1.30 min of the game)? Or the missed shot at the end of the game? I'm guessing he doesn't get any of the blame...

Yeah, he might get some blame if he missed a game winning LAYUP. But a 20 foot fall away with LBJ in your face is a pretty tough shot to stick.

The turnovers, yeah those were costly. But Rondo had a clear chance to put the Celtics in great chance to win the game with a layup. No other play in the game was as crucial as that missed layup. Rondo has always been a liability on offense. The game is played both ways.