Blow it up?

[dwlefty13]

It is an unfortunate thing to think about blowing up this team, I doubt they do it this offseason but 2012 will be the end of this era and a new look Celtics team.

I do believe that with a strike shorten season that the Celtics will make there last hoorah for a championship. Then the 30-win seasons of rebuilding starts all over again.

[barefacedmonk]

With Danny as our GM, we won't have to ponder over this one for very long...Danny Ainge is good at blowing up the team and its chances.

[KGDunks]

No we need to wait till 2012.

[Tradetime]

It's time to revisit the idea of getting Monta Ellis from Golden State. I'm not sure if Rondo and Green with the Clips pick could land us CP3, but I'd be all about that as well. I'd rather see Rondo get a chance to run more on the break, though, and think getting a guy like Ellis would allow that.

Then maybe go see if we could have a nice chat with the Maloofs, who will be selling the Kings after next season, and see what they'd take for Demarcus Cousins.

[BASS_THUMPER]

"blow it up" is already being used by the lakers...

[Kuberski33]

If Danny blows it up, we're looking at 4-5 straight years of crappy basketball.  No thank you.

I think the key will be whether KG wants to come back.  I'm guessing he probably does only because there aren't a lot of jobs that pay what he'll make next year.

Assuming he returns, you've got enough to have a top 4 team in the Eastern conference plus the flexibility to blow things up if it's not working.  Problem is you're going to need to assemble a team to beat Miami and that's asking too much unless D. Wade or LeBron blows out a knee.

Celtics had enough to get it done this year -- they just got killed by injuries to their supporting cast.

[zerophase]

I think Danny just goes with it for one more year. He has Ray and KG under contract anyways and even if he knows this team can't win a championship, they'll certainly still be good and will sell a lot of tickets. Then he lets KG and Allen walk like he planned and blow it up. This move would keep fan support... if he traded them, the fans would be dangerously outraged.

[Green Hell]

I think Danny just goes with it for one more year. He has Ray and KG under contract anyways and even if he knows this team can't win a championship, they'll certainly still be good and will sell a lot of tickets. Then he lets KG and Allen walk like he planned and blow it up. This move would keep fan support... if he traded them, the fans would be dangerously outraged.

No offense but fans aren't going to stick around to watch this team dig themselves deeper into the ground next season. I think the franchise is going to have a hard time selling seats if they try and roll these same guys out "for one last last LAST run" considering its all been downhill since 2008.

[PosImpos]

If Danny blows it up, we're looking at 4-5 straight years of crappy basketball.  No thank you.

I think the key will be whether KG wants to come back.  I'm guessing he probably does only because there aren't a lot of jobs that pay what he'll make next year.

Assuming he returns, you've got enough to have a top 4 team in the Eastern conference plus the flexibility to blow things up if it's not working.  Problem is you're going to need to assemble a team to beat Miami and that's asking too much unless D. Wade or LeBron blows out a knee.

Celtics had enough to get it done this year -- they just got killed by injuries to their supporting cast.

I'm not so sure the Celtics are a top 4 team next year with all the players getting older.  Probably more like top 5 or 6.  This team is going to continue to have trouble winning back to backs (there will be more of those if there's a lockout) and staying consistent over the course of a long season.  They are going to deal more and more with injuries.

I agree that the fans will probably continue to show up just because they love the Big 3 + Rondo and want to see them play their last season in green.  I don't think the majority of fans will be showing up under the illusion that a championship is realistically in the offing. 

Last year was the last true chance, and this year we had a shot at it if the team was totally healthy, but they weren't.  So it goes.


I disagree that the team will necessarily be terrible for the next 4-5 years once they blow it up.  I believe in Danny's ability to make some smart moves and build the team back up again within a few years (similar to the Grizzlies, Blazers, Thunder).

[Bahku]

"Rebuilding" isn't a one season process, and it's not something done in a single summer. Danny is a very smart guy, and he's been preparing for the loss of the older guys already.

Shaq has already said he's retiring after next season, and he may even do it sooner, as the amount he can contribute has been painfully exposed this year.

KG, Paul and Ray can still play extremely well, and regaining their chemistry would be a difficult thing.

I think the attention area is mainly the bench and a "true" Center ... with those positions strengthened, we can still easily contend with the Big Three.

As for the future beyond that, rest assured management is already planning for it.

[KGDunks]

We can still be a pretty good team next season.

[PosImpos]

"Rebuilding" isn't a one season process, and it's not something done in a single summer. Danny is a very smart guy, and he's been preparing for the loss of the older guys already.

Shaq has already said he's retiring after next season, and he may even do it sooner, as the amount he can contribute has been painfully exposed this year.

KG, Paul and Ray can still play extremely well, and regaining their chemistry would be a difficult thing.

I think the attention area is mainly the bench and a "true" Center ... with those positions strengthened, we can still easily contend with the Big Three.

As for the future beyond that, rest assured management is already planning for it.

The only way this group could still contend would be if they could keep the Big 3 and make a trade this summer that would net them a point guard with scoring and playmaking ability as well as a center who can score inside and carry the offensive load.

An example would be if somehow you could trade Rondo for Devin Harris and Al Jefferson.  

I'm not saying there's any chance of that happening, but that's the sort of thing that would need to happen for the Celtics with the Big 3 to be contenders next year.  We need young players who can shoulder a bigger part of the offensive load and give us an inside presence.

We can still be a pretty good team next season.

Pretty good as in 45-50 wins and a 4th or 5th seed in the East?  Sure, probably.

Pretty good as in winning more than one playoff series?  No, probably not.  It wouldn't shock me if they got upset in the first round next year if they didn't make any major changes in the off-season.

[KGDunks]

"Rebuilding" isn't a one season process, and it's not something done in a single summer. Danny is a very smart guy, and he's been preparing for the loss of the older guys already.

Shaq has already said he's retiring after next season, and he may even do it sooner, as the amount he can contribute has been painfully exposed this year.

KG, Paul and Ray can still play extremely well, and regaining their chemistry would be a difficult thing.

I think the attention area is mainly the bench and a "true" Center ... with those positions strengthened, we can still easily contend with the Big Three.

As for the future beyond that, rest assured management is already planning for it.

The only way this group could still contend would be if they could keep the Big 3 and make a trade this summer that would net them a point guard with scoring and playmaking ability as well as a center who can score inside and carry the offensive load.

An example would be if somehow you could trade Rondo for Devin Harris and Al Jefferson. 

I'm not saying there's any chance of that happening, but that's the sort of thing that would need to happen for the Celtics with the Big 3 to be contenders next year.  We need young players who can shoulder a bigger part of the offensive load and give us an inside presence.

We can still be a pretty good team next season.

Pretty good as in 45-50 wins and a 4th or 5th seed in the East?  Sure, probably.

Pretty good as in winning more than one playoff series?  No, probably not.  It wouldn't shock me if they got upset in the first round next year if they didn't make any major changes in the off-season.

Who are we going to get in the off season that's going to magically make us a top seed again? We need to draft some young talent if there is any in this weak draft.

[Eja117]

I picked yes, bu now that I think about it I think taking one more shot might be worth it. I hate nba rebuilding.

The team might be healthier and Jeff Green might get it.

Plus with Green and Rondo we might have decent pieces to rebuild with anyway

But if some great great trade option comes our way take it

[KGDunks]

Rondo has to get a jump shot if we want to go anywhere with Rondo and Green