Jeff Green a great and crucial team player. Why don't more people see this?

[GreenFaith1819]

Celtics did not lose this game tonight because of Jeff Green, not at all. We made some key mistakes, namely some of Pierce's fumbled possessions early in the game, and there were calls that led to Pierce's ejection, and the absolutely terrible Flagrant call on Jermaine O'neal.

Green did not cost the team this game, not one bit. He had bad possessions, he missed shots, but who didn't in this game? The Celtics were within striking distance multiple times, on huge runs, and the some major calls decided this one.

Agreed.

[Senninsage]

He didn't rebound. He let his man james jones ( who he was supposed to abuse because of his matchup favor) get hot and abuse the C's. He missed all his shots and made some stupid turnovers in the second quarter that caused the C's to be down by so much going into the 2nd half.

What is your definition of jeff green losing a game for the celtics? going 1-15 from the field and turning the ball over repeatedly in the fourth quarter causing the C's to lose by 1 point. No you are right he didn't contribute to the C's losing. but if we had an all star talent like james jones instead of green we would very well have a 1-0 lead.

Oh please, don't pin that one on Green, because it wasn't his fault at all.

Ray Allen is my favorite player in NBA history behind Jordan himself, but it was Ray Allen's constant coming off of Jones, to pay attention to wade, while he was being guarded by someone else, that led to those open James Jones three pointers.

How aren't people seeing that it was while Ray was guarding him that he hit most of those shots?

[ejk3489]

Also I don't think its a coincidence that our bench has been horrible since the trade for green. say what you want about nate and his poor shooting this season, the chemistry was much better when he was on the bench than with Jeff "i don't wanna be here" green on it.

Nate was terrible, come on. He doesn't even play in OKC.

[Celticsfan336]

He didn't rebound. He let his man james jones ( who he was supposed to abuse because of his matchup favor) get hot and abuse the C's. He missed all his shots and made some stupid turnovers in the second quarter that caused the C's to be down by so much going into the 2nd half.

What is your definition of jeff green losing a game for the celtics? going 1-15 from the field and turning the ball over repeatedly in the fourth quarter causing the C's to lose by 1 point. No you are right he didn't contribute to the C's losing. but if we had an all star talent like james jones instead of green we would very well have a 1-0 lead.

You can't honestly say Jeff Green was the reason we lost THIS game when KG scored 6 points, Pierce played horendous in the first quarter, and Rondo was atrocious, and BBD scored 2 points, and played the worst weak-side defense I have ever seen.

Jeff Green was atleast aggresive, hit some 3s and attacked the hoop and got to the line.

[Neurotic Guy]

I thought Green played a pretty solid second half.

[Jim on MV]

Green was on Jones, not Ray.  They broke it down repeatedly in slo-mo on ABC with Green wandering around like a toddler in traffic while the NBA's 3-point champion went off.

[jowwwman]

Green was on Jones, not Ray.  They broke it down repeatedly in slo-mo on ABC with Green wandering around like a toddler in traffic while the NBA's 3-point champion went off.

Exactly, and for anyone that still remembers the knicks series Green was also the one responsible for covering Shawne Williams, when Williams went off for 5-5 shooting in the first half of game 2, while getting to the line as well.

About the only thing consistent about Green is him getting consistently outplayed by his bench counterparts in the playoffs. As most of you know the Heat and Knicks have two of the weaker benches in the league. Yet, although our bench looks good on paper has completely fallen apart since the arrival of Green.

For anyone that wants to argue that Green has not been complete garbage since his arrival please tell me why bench players without Green's gazelle like speed and supreme talent are throughly outplaying him in just about every game in the playoffs.

[thirstyboots18]

jowwwman, I don't want to argue except to say that judging by your various posts, you seem to have a pretty overwhelming case of Jeff Green hate which blocks out everything else. 

The reffing was horrific today, but even if I had been reffing, and calls would have gone differently, the loss today was pretty much a team effort.  I don't think you can blame todays loss on a bench player and exclude the players who are "supposed" to show up and play the whole game...the starters.  Looked like Ray was the only one who was "on".  It happens.  It would have been better to win, but this was not game seven, and we have not lost the series  yet. 

[manbehindtheman]

I'm not a J. Green fan myself.  I don't think he is aggressive enough, but today he played ok all things considered.  He didn't have too much to do with the loss, it was everybody else.

[wdleehi]

Jeff Green didn't do anything to lose this game.


Jeff Green didn't do anything to win this game.



He is just out there.  Just like he has been since he joined the Celtics.





He was not added to this team to just be out there. 

[Roy H.]

I'm pretty surprised to see so many people saying that Green played well.  I thought he was terrible.  Sure, he made a couple of threes, but he shot poorly overall, he didn't rebound at all, and his defense was very bad for the most part.

I agree that he wasn't the biggest reason for the loss, but he certainly didn't do much positive, either.

[Celticsfan336]

I'm pretty surprised to see so many people saying that Green played well.  I thought he was terrible.  Sure, he made a couple of threes, but he shot poorly overall, he didn't rebound at all, and his defense was very bad for the most part.

I agree that he wasn't the biggest reason for the loss, but he certainly didn't do much positive, either.

He was on the floor during most of the runs, while BBD was sitting on the bench.
He started 1-6, but had to shoot 2 shots due to poor offense at the end of the shot clock. He did miss a couple easy shots.

[jowwwman]

jowwwman, I don't want to argue except to say that judging by your various posts, you seem to have a pretty overwhelming case of Jeff Green hate which blocks out everything else. 

The reffing was horrific today, but even if I had been reffing, and calls would have gone differently, the loss today was pretty much a team effort.  I don't think you can blame todays loss on a bench player and exclude the players who are "supposed" to show up and play the whole game...the starters.  Looked like Ray was the only one who was "on".  It happens.  It would have been better to win, but this was not game seven, and we have not lost the series  yet. 

I don't hate him, in fact I was actually excited when I had heard of the trade as I believed that it would give us a legitamate scoring option off the bench and at the same time I thought that Perk was overrated by many as well for his contributions. However after watching his first few games I already had a pretty good idea that he was not the right fit for this team and adding him and forcing him into some minutes off the bench was horrible for our team chemistry and not surprisingly our bench has played as bad as they could possibly play with the addition of Green.

Watching Green play and watching his interviews he doesn't appear confident at all and he just seems like he has absolutely no heart or passion to be here and play for Boston. Jeff Green and his soft personality and play on the court is just a horrible fit and trade for a veteran team wanting to win NOW and it shows in every game he gets abused just standing around,


Another reason I feel so strongly about this is because Green is so overrated by the board its funny. It's like this with every game. You guys always deflect the blame away from this guy onto the coach or being new or whatever but the fact is the guy isn't producing. When I bring up a point about WHY as in facts during the game that prove Jeff Green is garbage (getting torched by bench players) you choose to ignore entirely and say that we wouldn't have won despite his play or whatever. I can bet that if Green posts even decent numbers half of this board will go crazy with I told you  sos and talk of his all star potential.


Finally I am sick of hearing of his potential. Potential to be an all star means nothing if it doesn't translate into results and help us win now. I will be happy to see Green go after this year. dont care if we trade him or let him go his soft personality and play is just not fit for this team or any team that wants to be a winner in the future. Green is the perfect fit to be a top option on one of the bottom feeding teams I believe that is where he will excel showing his talent and getting paid for making pretty plays with no pressure. He is simply not a winner.

[OsirusCeltics]

He didn't rebound. He let his man james jones ( who he was supposed to abuse because of his matchup favor) get hot and abuse the C's. He missed all his shots and made some stupid turnovers in the second quarter that caused the C's to be down by so much going into the 2nd half.

What is your definition of jeff green losing a game for the celtics? going 1-15 from the field and turning the ball over repeatedly in the fourth quarter causing the C's to lose by 1 point. No you are right he didn't contribute to the C's losing. but if we had an all star talent like james jones instead of green we would very well have a 1-0 lead.

Delonte West and Ray Allen were also guarding James Jones too. You want them gone also?

[footey]

Jeff Green didn't do anything to lose this game.


Jeff Green didn't do anything to win this game.



He is just out there.  Just like he has been since he joined the Celtics.





He was not added to this team to just be out there. 

Pretty much my sentiments as well.