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Re: Jermaine right now is better that Perk
« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2011, 08:46:37 AM »

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I disagree....like...a lot.
Agree.....TP

Although I have been pleasantly surprised with JO's improved play.  I must say I was wrong about him making it back to contribute.
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Re: Jermaine right now is better that Perk
« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2011, 08:55:49 AM »

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JO now understands and accepts his role with this team. The last 7 or 8 games, he's really starting to get his rhythm, and is excelling at what Danny brought him here for.

I do think it's too early to say if JO is better than Perk--for now or overall for this season--it's hard to dismiss the full body of work Perk gave to us for the last few seasons after seeing only a few good games from JO. I'm not one to call Perk an All-Star, but role player to role player, it's just a bit premature for me to be agreeing with the OP.

I am however, very happy and a lot more confident with what I've seen. If Shaq can make it back after this series for 15 minutes a game, I think everything will be okay.

Re: Jermaine right now is better that Perk
« Reply #17 on: April 23, 2011, 08:58:00 AM »

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JO's a 6-time All-Star who'll play more minutes than Perk would have, but trade doubters would point out how strong the C's would be if we had both of them for the run.
Because its true.  If we had Perk right now, and JO (it basically could be either O'Neal), we'd have that size and depth needed to go on a long playoff run.  We may still get Shaq, but that remains to be seen.  JO and Krstic ain't gonna cut it.  Kristic has been horrible in his few minutes in the playoffs, that much is for certain.

This works against the Knicks, but it won't against Miami.  We need more depth becuase JO will be in foul trouble quite a bit with Wade and James driving relentlessly to the hoop.


Re: Jermaine right now is better that Perk
« Reply #18 on: April 23, 2011, 08:58:59 AM »

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I disagree....like...a lot.

Yeah. Perk is a much better rebounder and a better overall defender. He doesn't have JO's offensive talent, but he was a good fit in our offense because he knew our sets.

As clover said, I would have liked to have both. 48 minutes of legit center play would have been a big matchup advantage for us.
Ditto -- I would have loved to have had both going into the playoffs.  Would have given us the option of using JO to back up KG as well as Perk.  If Shaq were healthy with Perk and JO, a 5-man rotation of KG, Perk, JO, Shaq and BBD would have overwhelmed any other team.

Re: Jermaine right now is better that Perk
« Reply #19 on: April 23, 2011, 09:00:29 AM »

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I love the shot blocking!!! Not one of Perks stronger suites.
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Re: Jermaine right now is better that Perk
« Reply #20 on: April 23, 2011, 09:09:06 AM »

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I disagree....like...a lot.

Yeah. Perk is a much better rebounder and a better overall defender. He doesn't have JO's offensive talent, but he was a good fit in our offense because he knew our sets.

As clover said, I would have liked to have both. 48 minutes of legit center play would have been a big matchup advantage for us.
Ditto -- I would have loved to have had both going into the playoffs.  Would have given us the option of using JO to back up KG as well as Perk.  If Shaq were healthy with Perk and JO, a 5-man rotation of KG, Perk, JO, Shaq and BBD would have overwhelmed any other team.

That could have been an absolutely KILLER rotataion.  Wouldn't have needed anything other than a vet wing to back up Paul/Ray.  Who could have competed with that group of bigs, maybe the Lakers?

Re: Jermaine right now is better that Perk
« Reply #21 on: April 23, 2011, 09:15:12 AM »

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I love the shot blocking!!! Not one of Perks stronger suites.
Blocking shots is good. It gets overrated though.  Amar'e gets a good number of blocks, but nobody is confusing him as a great defender.

Sometimes maintaining good position and altering a shot is just as good if not better.

Re: Jermaine right now is better that Perk
« Reply #22 on: April 23, 2011, 09:16:22 AM »

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I think JO needs to continue to start and Shaq should come off the bench for the first few games.

Re: Jermaine right now is better that Perk
« Reply #23 on: April 23, 2011, 09:18:31 AM »

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I love the shot blocking!!! Not one of Perks stronger suites.
Blocking shots is good. It gets overrated though.  Amar'e gets a good number of blocks, but nobody is confusing him as a great defender.

Sometimes maintaining good position and altering a shot is just as good if not better.


Yes but the difference is that JO's blocks usually result in the ball falling into our hands and then leading to a fastbreak opportunity while Stoudemire (or Dwight Howard in that regard)'s blocks go out of bounds and are just highlights reel.

Re: Jermaine right now is better that Perk
« Reply #24 on: April 23, 2011, 09:21:20 AM »

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I love the shot blocking!!! Not one of Perks stronger suites.
Blocking shots is good. It gets overrated though.  Amar'e gets a good number of blocks, but nobody is confusing him as a great defender.

Sometimes maintaining good position and altering a shot is just as good if not better.


Yes but the difference is that JO's blocks usually result in the ball falling into our hands and then leading to a fastbreak opportunity while Stoudemire (or Dwight Howard in that regard)'s blocks go out of bounds and are just highlights reel.

Yeah. One NBA legend, I think it was Abdul-Jabbar, said that when you block the shot, get the ball and don't throw it out of bounds! TP for the one who reminds me who said that.

Re: Jermaine right now is better that Perk
« Reply #25 on: April 23, 2011, 09:25:17 AM »

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I love the shot blocking!!! Not one of Perks stronger suites.
Blocking shots is good. It gets overrated though.  Amar'e gets a good number of blocks, but nobody is confusing him as a great defender.

Sometimes maintaining good position and altering a shot is just as good if not better.


Yes but the difference is that JO's blocks usually result in the ball falling into our hands and then leading to a fastbreak opportunity while Stoudemire (or Dwight Howard in that regard)'s blocks go out of bounds and are just highlights reel.

Yeah. One NBA legend, I think it was Abdul-Jabbar Bill Russell, said that when you block the shot, get the ball and don't throw it out of bounds! TP for the one who reminds me who said that.

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Re: Jermaine right now is better that Perk
« Reply #26 on: April 23, 2011, 09:28:19 AM »

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I love the shot blocking!!! Not one of Perks stronger suites.
Blocking shots is good. It gets overrated though.  Amar'e gets a good number of blocks, but nobody is confusing him as a great defender.

Sometimes maintaining good position and altering a shot is just as good if not better.


Yes but the difference is that JO's blocks usually result in the ball falling into our hands and then leading to a fastbreak opportunity while Stoudemire (or Dwight Howard in that regard)'s blocks go out of bounds and are just highlights reel.

Yeah. One NBA legend, I think it was Abdul-Jabbar Bill Russell, said that when you block the shot, get the ball and don't throw it out of bounds! TP for the one who reminds me who said that.

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Alright, thanks. TP for ya. Any video?

Re: Jermaine right now is better that Perk
« Reply #27 on: April 23, 2011, 09:30:39 AM »

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I love the shot blocking!!! Not one of Perks stronger suites.
Blocking shots is good. It gets overrated though.  Amar'e gets a good number of blocks, but nobody is confusing him as a great defender.

Sometimes maintaining good position and altering a shot is just as good if not better.


Yes but the difference is that JO's blocks usually result in the ball falling into our hands and then leading to a fastbreak opportunity while Stoudemire (or Dwight Howard in that regard)'s blocks go out of bounds and are just highlights reel.

Yeah. One NBA legend, I think it was Abdul-Jabbar Bill Russell, said that when you block the shot, get the ball and don't throw it out of bounds! TP for the one who reminds me who said that.

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Alright, thanks. TP for ya. Any video?

That may have been the easiest TP in the history ot TP's.  Thanks.

Sorry though, I'm not great at posting videos(it takes me half a day to get it right).

Re: Jermaine right now is better that Perk
« Reply #28 on: April 23, 2011, 09:31:11 AM »

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Having both would have been nice and the best possible deal for THIS YEAR. Perk was tuff inside, maybe he was too slow to do anything else but stand in there and get in the way. Perk is fearless and could take his lumps and dish em out.

On the other hand...Perk may need a walker by the time he gets to the O'neals ages.

I think JO is close to matching what Perk could do right now, If JO continues his PT, workouts, stengthening training , AND EAT RIGHT ( are you listening SHAQ?) ;D he is showing signs of energy and movement not seen in a long long time.  IFffffffffffffffff ???? he stays healthy I feel certain his best game is yet to come.

Krstic is playing like a GIRL.  He is the biggest puzzee I've ever seen , he makes Gasol look like Moses Malone. Don't know whats worse his play or haircut

Re: Jermaine right now is better that Perk
« Reply #29 on: April 23, 2011, 09:35:52 AM »

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I love the shot blocking!!! Not one of Perks stronger suites.
Blocking shots is good. It gets overrated though.  Amar'e gets a good number of blocks, but nobody is confusing him as a great defender.

Sometimes maintaining good position and altering a shot is just as good if not better.


Yes but the difference is that JO's blocks usually result in the ball falling into our hands and then leading to a fastbreak opportunity while Stoudemire (or Dwight Howard in that regard)'s blocks go out of bounds and are just highlights reel.

Yeah. One NBA legend, I think it was Abdul-Jabbar Bill Russell, said that when you block the shot, get the ball and don't throw it out of bounds! TP for the one who reminds me who said that.

Fixed

Alright, thanks. TP for ya. Any video?

That may have been the easiest TP in the history ot TP's.  Thanks.

Sorry though, I'm not great at posting videos(it takes me half a day to get it right).

Just find the link, and copy & paste it and post.