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I would guess he won't be more then MLE (though you never know) and he seems like he would solve a lot of problems on the team.  He is big enough to play SF, but quick enough to play SG.  He is an excellent shooter and would provide a lot of scoring pop off the bench.  I would also feel comfortable with him starting in the future (which might be the selling point for him to come here).  He is still just 25 and has actually improved his defense the last few years so he isn't totally worthless on that end.  I would be willing to give him a long term contract as long as it isn't for more then the MLE, I just don't know if that is enough to land him (and for the record I'd rather have him then Glen Davis, who I think will be looking at a similar contract).
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« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2011, 11:04:31 AM »

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Sold -- I'd love to have JR Smith on the Celtics. A 17-18ppg threat for MLE money? A dangerous perimeter shooter and quality slasher? With very good athleticism and is a capable ball-handler, passer / playmaker, rebounder and defender? Great stuff. He is a bargain.

I'd love to see what he can do with more consistent minutes.

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I concur, especially w/ a more stable lockeroom. Definitely worth the "gamble" he's that explosive scoring option off the bench that we so desperately need right now.

He's also so incredibly talented, that hdespite his nuckleheadness , that you could always find a buyer for if things don't go well.

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A bit scary, but like Correy Maggette a few years ago I'd gamble on him for MLE money.

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That's 96 minutes then to split 4 ways between Ray, Pierce, Green, and Smith.  So, do we then attempt to trade away Green for a center?  I could definitely be on board for that whole scenario.  Especially if we bring back Delonte and Von.
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For that scorer off the bench role, I don't think he is worth this type of money if Jeff Green is still on the team. Just not enough minutes for both of them.

I don't think he is an upgrade over Jeff either. A better scorer, sure, but overall, not much of a difference between the two of them.

As a future replacement for Ray Allen, I like JR Smith. I think Rondo and JR would be a very nice pairing.

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JR Smith would be a fantastic addition to the team.  Can do everything at the 2-guard spot.  Would allow the team to ease its reliance on Ray Allen and potentially prolong his career.  Great fit with Rondo going forward as well, as he can assume shot-creation responsibility in spurts when Rondo's stuck in a rut or on the bench, as well as playing well off of Rondo.

He should have a lot of suitors though.
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« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2011, 11:19:16 AM »

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If JR Smith was the replacement first wing off the bench ... Danny would need to add a wing with legit size (SF size), defensive ability and rebounding. He'd only have the minimum to offer.

Someone like Derrick Brown would be fantastic.

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« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2011, 11:26:19 AM »

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For that scorer off the bench role, I don't think he is worth this type of money if Jeff Green is still on the team. Just not enough minutes for both of them.

I don't think he is an upgrade over Jeff either. A better scorer, sure, but overall, not much of a difference between the two of them.

As a future replacement for Ray Allen, I like JR Smith. I think Rondo and JR would be a very nice pairing.

I think JR Smith would be viewed as combo guard by the C's, along the lines of House and D. West.  As a 1/2, I don't think they would see his role overlapping with Green at the 3/4. 

I also think they will want to ease their reliance on Ray.  His defense is showing signs of slippage (consider how much we've struggled whenever our opponent puts two quick guards on the floor at once) but they've had no one to go to other than the oft-injured and undersized D-West or Von Wafer.
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Always wanted J.R. here to run with Rondo. I alwyas thought he was a starter in the league. Well heres to hoping!

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« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2011, 11:33:12 AM »

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For that scorer off the bench role, I don't think he is worth this type of money if Jeff Green is still on the team. Just not enough minutes for both of them.

I don't think he is an upgrade over Jeff either. A better scorer, sure, but overall, not much of a difference between the two of them.

As a future replacement for Ray Allen, I like JR Smith. I think Rondo and JR would be a very nice pairing.

I think JR Smith would be viewed as combo guard by the C's, along the lines of House and D. West.  As a 1/2, I don't think they would see his role overlapping with Green at the 3/4. 

I also think they will want to ease their reliance on Ray.  His defense is showing signs of slippage (consider how much we've struggled whenever our opponent puts two quick guards on the floor at once) but they've had no one to go to other than the oft-injured and undersized D-West or Von Wafer.
You would use JR Smith as a point guard?

I'd rather keep him on the wing but he could do that. He's played reasonably well there in the past. Decision making is pretty sketchy though. More comfortable with him on the wing where he can concentrate on being an attacker / scorer.

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For that scorer off the bench role, I don't think he is worth this type of money if Jeff Green is still on the team. Just not enough minutes for both of them.

I don't think he is an upgrade over Jeff either. A better scorer, sure, but overall, not much of a difference between the two of them.

As a future replacement for Ray Allen, I like JR Smith. I think Rondo and JR would be a very nice pairing.

I think JR Smith would be viewed as combo guard by the C's, along the lines of House and D. West.  As a 1/2, I don't think they would see his role overlapping with Green at the 3/4. 

I also think they will want to ease their reliance on Ray.  His defense is showing signs of slippage (consider how much we've struggled whenever our opponent puts two quick guards on the floor at once) but they've had no one to go to other than the oft-injured and undersized D-West or Von Wafer.

If Pierce is staying two more years I think they should trade Jeff Green and Kristic and a sweetener to the Clippers for DeAndre Jordan.  Green would do great starting between Eric Gordon and Blake Griffin, running the floor, etc...

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I've secretly fantasized bout JR being here since the 09 season. But i gotta say i'm surprised to see so many people are down for this with no mention of his attitude problem. I guess we're hopin being around the big 3 would help change that?

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That's 96 minutes then to split 4 ways between Ray, Pierce, Green, and Smith.  So, do we then attempt to trade away Green for a center?  I could definitely be on board for that whole scenario.  Especially if we bring back Delonte and Von.
Green would get burn at PF.

I'd envision something like this
PG - Rondo 36, West 12
SG - Allen 30, JR 16, West 2
SF - Pierce 34, Green 12, JR 2
PF - Garnett 34, Davis 10, Green 4
C - S. O'Neal 20, J. O'Neal 20, Davis 8

Obviously some of these guys might not be here and we would need another center (Krstic would work since we can re-sign) because Shaq and JO are going to be hurt.  If we don't keep Davis, then you give Green more minutes at PF, give JO some burn there, and insert Krstic into the backup center role, and then go find another veteran center for the deep bench.

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Rondo 36
Pierce 34
Garnett 34
Allen 30
J O'Neal 20
S O'Neal 20
JR Smith 18
Davis 18
Green 16
West 14

Nice solid 10 man rotation with Krstic (or veteran center) and Bradley on the deep bench, and our 1st rounder and minimum type players in suits.
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For that scorer off the bench role, I don't think he is worth this type of money if Jeff Green is still on the team. Just not enough minutes for both of them.

I don't think he is an upgrade over Jeff either. A better scorer, sure, but overall, not much of a difference between the two of them.

As a future replacement for Ray Allen, I like JR Smith. I think Rondo and JR would be a very nice pairing.

I think JR Smith would be viewed as combo guard by the C's, along the lines of House and D. West.  As a 1/2, I don't think they would see his role overlapping with Green at the 3/4. 

I also think they will want to ease their reliance on Ray.  His defense is showing signs of slippage (consider how much we've struggled whenever our opponent puts two quick guards on the floor at once) but they've had no one to go to other than the oft-injured and undersized D-West or Von Wafer.

If Pierce is staying two more years I think they should trade Jeff Green and Kristic and a sweetener to the Clippers for DeAndre Jordan.  Green would do great starting between Eric Gordon and Blake Griffin, running the floor, etc...

I don't know if the Clippers would take that deal just because of Aminu who was a high draft pick for them, unless they traded him. I know he disappeared toward the end of the year but I don't see them giving up on him so soon.

Getting JR Smith I think would actually depend on what happens with Glen Davis in the off season. If Glen is gone then Green could take his 6th man minutes/role and Smith would be the 7th guy, or maybe (if Shaq and JO retire) you start Green and Smith is your 6th man. I see Green more of a SF then a PF but till Paul retires then Green can be the PF and KG the C. If Glen stays then we don't land Smith unless we let Green walk and/or trade him.
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