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Re: Do the Celtics Need a Pure Point Guard Off the Bench?
« Reply #30 on: April 21, 2011, 03:55:23 PM »

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The Bull ride D Rose like a horse. He barely is ever out of a game. As sonn as he goes out , so goes the lead . Same with Koby at LA. 

MUch of the time Rondo is waht makes the Celtics.  Spelling him good in the regualr season is ok.  But, in the Playoffs , you gotta ride that horse. No saving , everygame is a must win, when you get lead , you gotta hold it , and Doc feels like hes gotta go with who can git er dun.

Look , same with Dwight Howard, he never rests.

Nope ......gotta use your best AS much as possible to keep advancing. 
Kobe played 40.1 minutes in the playoffs last year and there were games, especially against us in the finals where he was worn down and played like it.  

Rose has averaged 39 minutes in the two games against the Pacers.  Deng has actually had less rest at 40 minutes a game.  Both are up slightly from their regular season numbers.  
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Re: Do the Celtics Need a Pure Point Guard Off the Bench?
« Reply #31 on: April 21, 2011, 03:56:59 PM »

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The Bull ride D Rose like a horse. He barely is ever out of a game. As sonn as he goes out , so goes the lead . Same with Koby at LA. 

MUch of the time Rondo is waht makes the Celtics.  Spelling him good in the regualr season is ok.  But, in the Playoffs , you gotta ride that horse. No saving , everygame is a must win, when you get lead , you gotta hold it , and Doc feels like hes gotta go with who can git er dun.

Look , same with Dwight Howard, he never rests.

Nope ......gotta use your best AS much as possible to keep advancing. 
Kobe played 40.1 minutes in the playoffs last year and there were games, especially against us in the finals where he was worn down and played like it.  

Rose has averaged 39 minutes in the two games against the Pacers.  Deng has actually had less rest at 40 minutes a game.  Both are up slightly from their regular season numbers.  
LeBron also has been gassed in the playoffs when Mike Brown was playing him 40+ minutes a game.

You don't wan to play any player that long if you have a good enough rotation to allow them to rest.

Re: Do the Celtics Need a Pure Point Guard Off the Bench?
« Reply #32 on: April 21, 2011, 04:03:58 PM »

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I think the Cs are fine with delote as the back up pg, as long as he stays healthy. With an allstar pg who plays heavy minutes id rather have a 1/2 back up then a 1 who doesnt get minutes.

Hopefully Avery takes that 1/2 role in the future
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Re: Do the Celtics Need a Pure Point Guard Off the Bench?
« Reply #33 on: April 21, 2011, 04:05:15 PM »

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I am very happy to have Delonte West.

I would be delighted if he returned for another year (hopefully a healthier year).

My feelings exactly.
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Re: Do the Celtics Need a Pure Point Guard Off the Bench?
« Reply #34 on: April 21, 2011, 04:07:34 PM »

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Would Iverson a great fit for Boston off the bench?
As a fan of AI, I think he could play perfectly 25 minutes to score 10 points and 5 assists, I'm sure.
Iverson can still play at high level.

Obviously this will not happen, I think Delonte is a second-guard, not a point guard, we need a replacement for Rondo.

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Re: Do the Celtics Need a Pure Point Guard Off the Bench?
« Reply #35 on: April 21, 2011, 04:56:21 PM »

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Would Iverson a great fit for Boston off the bench?
As a fan of AI, I think he could play perfectly 25 minutes to score 10 points and 5 assists, I'm sure.
Iverson can still play at high level.

Obviously this will not happen, I think Delonte is a second-guard, not a point guard, we need a replacement for Rondo.

Yeah.  Because Iverson has always been a character / chemistry guy.

Re: Do the Celtics Need a Pure Point Guard Off the Bench?
« Reply #36 on: April 21, 2011, 04:59:10 PM »

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The Bull ride D Rose like a horse. He barely is ever out of a game. As sonn as he goes out , so goes the lead . Same with Koby at LA. 

MUch of the time Rondo is waht makes the Celtics.  Spelling him good in the regualr season is ok.  But, in the Playoffs , you gotta ride that horse. No saving , everygame is a must win, when you get lead , you gotta hold it , and Doc feels like hes gotta go with who can git er dun.

Look , same with Dwight Howard, he never rests.

Nope ......gotta use your best AS much as possible to keep advancing. 
Kobe played 40.1 minutes in the playoffs last year and there were games, especially against us in the finals where he was worn down and played like it.  

Rose has averaged 39 minutes in the two games against the Pacers.  Deng has actually had less rest at 40 minutes a game.  Both are up slightly from their regular season numbers.  
LeBron also has been gassed in the playoffs when Mike Brown was playing him 40+ minutes a game.

You don't wan to play any player that long if you have a good enough rotation to allow them to rest.
exactly.  I'd say 37-38 minutes for Rondo is a good number, somewhere in the 35-36 for Allen, Pierce, and KG.  You just don't want them wearing down and you also want the bench guys to get into a groove.  If you only are playing 2 minutes here and there, it is hard to play well.  The 3 or 4 bench guys need to get at least a couple of stints of 5 or 6 consecutive minutes on the floor. 
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Re: Do the Celtics Need a Pure Point Guard Off the Bench?
« Reply #37 on: April 22, 2011, 07:05:08 PM »

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I'd like to see Rondo play around 34 minutes a game during the regular season. I thought he played too many minutes this year. I'd like to cut that back down from 37 to 34. Do a better job of keeping fresh during the season.

Then step it up to about 36-38 minutes in the playoffs ... with Rondo playing extended minutes (40-42mpg) where necessary (say against Derrick Rose and the Bulls).
I think West's injury was mostly why. If West hadn't busted his wrist Rondo would have played less.

Re: Do the Celtics Need a Pure Point Guard Off the Bench?
« Reply #38 on: April 22, 2011, 10:40:11 PM »

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They need someone like Jarret Jack.  Can distribute, score and can play along side Rondo on occasions. 

So you mean someone like Delonte West?  

My thoughts exactly. 
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« Reply #39 on: April 23, 2011, 03:45:14 AM »

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Rajon's minutes will go down next year because of Avery Bradley.  In the regular season at least.  I see him being exactly what west is now, shifting to the 2 with Rajon and the 1 to rest him.  He is a fantastic defender already and will only get better, he has some length and has an offensive game that we'll see is very impressive next year when he understands he doesn't have to try and be Rondo.  I believe he could be the C's best scorer off the bench next year.

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« Reply #40 on: April 23, 2011, 07:02:05 AM »

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They need someone like Jarret Jack.  Can distribute, score and can play along side Rondo on occasions. 

So you mean someone like Delonte West?  

My thoughts exactly. 

I don't think they are anything alike, really. Jack has good handles and knows how to run a team.  Delonte is not good at either.
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Re: Do the Celtics Need a Pure Point Guard Off the Bench?
« Reply #41 on: April 23, 2011, 08:33:18 AM »

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They need someone like Jarret Jack.  Can distribute, score and can play along side Rondo on occasions. 

So you mean someone like Delonte West?  

My thoughts exactly. 

I don't think they are anything alike, really. Jack has good handles and knows how to run a team.  Delonte is not good at either.
my thoughts exactly.  West is an undersized SG. 
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Re: Do the Celtics Need a Pure Point Guard Off the Bench?
« Reply #42 on: April 24, 2011, 02:01:40 AM »

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They need someone like Jarret Jack.  Can distribute, score and can play along side Rondo on occasions. 

So you mean someone like Delonte West?  

My thoughts exactly. 

I don't think they are anything alike, really. Jack has good handles and knows how to run a team.  Delonte is not good at either.
my thoughts exactly.  West is an undersized SG. 

Nah give west more credit than that. He's just not been healthy for a while let that ankle heal up. When he's on his game, he's great for the bench backing rondo

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« Reply #43 on: April 24, 2011, 02:11:54 AM »

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I really think there's no way it could hurt. But then again the way rondo's playin givin him 40 minutes of burn in the playoffs doesnt sound bad at all. Overall I'd say we have more pressing needs than that.

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« Reply #44 on: April 24, 2011, 08:56:44 AM »

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I really think there's no way it could hurt. But then again the way rondo's playin givin him 40 minutes of burn in the playoffs doesnt sound bad at all. Overall I'd say we have more pressing needs than that.

Not really.  Our biggest problem right now is the bench and the bad point guard play is a large part of the problem.  Remember when Rondo was playing lousy (just dribbling out the shot clock) and the offense suffered because of it?  That's what Delonte is doing right now.  He's dribbling too much, the passing to Baby, who is double teamed or he dribbles too much and loses the ball.  Maybe it's an injury, but whatever it is, he's playing lousy.
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