Why Was Jeff Green Brought In Again?

[GreenFaith1819]

is there anyone who would NOT reverse the Perk trade?

If we did NOT do the trade...who would've backed up Paul with Marquis going down?

From what I've read, CLE would've given us AP, but they wanted a 1st round pick for a 34 year old SG/SF?

Wuh?

[celticinorlando]

The 4th quarter go to line up needs to be rondo..ray...pierce...green and kg. That is what doc said when the trade happened...yet we stick with baby in the clutch....more green with the big four...less baby with everyone

[the_Bird]

is there anyone who would NOT reverse the Perk trade?

If we did NOT do the trade...who would've backed up Paul with Marquis going down?

From what I've read, CLE would've given us AP, but they wanted a 1st round pick for a 34 year old SG/SF?

Wuh?

I don't remember the 1st rounder.  The rumor at the time was they just wanted Semih.  

But, if Danny couldn't have pried loose an Anthony Parker-level small forward from SOMEWHERE in the league (Dahntay Jones was mentioned, although that could have been pure speculation)...  if Danny couldn't have found SOME trade for a backup wing, then it really *is* time to take him down off the pedestal.

Hell, even taking back Posey and his bad contract would have been better.  Could have given Indiana Nate and Quis and saved them a lot of $$ in the process.  Could have pushed harder, maybe, for Corey Brewer (who is *exactly* who this team needed).

I mean, convince me that Jeff Green is giving us any more than Sasha Pavlovic would be giving us in his spot.  I know Green's talent is >>>>> Sasha's...    how 'bout actual production?

Jeff Green's been in the league long enough where he ought to not be playing like a rookie.

 Edit - no offensive language - wdleehi

[Vermont Green]

Why was Green brought in?  To be a versitile 2-position bench player and he has been that, a pretty good bench player.  Other than Odom on the Lakers, bench players are just not that good on any of the top teams.

And for people who are declaring, oh we should have kept Perk and just gotten Corey Brewer or whoever.  I think that Danny probably did try to get someone without trading Perk but couldn't.  I think the get something for Perk aspect was in play but if Danny could have traded Nate for Brewer or something like that, I think he would have.

Green, Krstic, and a likely lottery pick for Perk and Nate; OKC gave up a lot and took back a wasted contract to get a wounded Perk.  No, I still would not un-do this trade.  Maybe I keep Erden over Murphy but I am still good with the value we got for this trade and I continue to believe that Perk is not the reason we are barely beating the Knicks.

[GreenFaith1819]

is there anyone who would NOT reverse the Perk trade?

If we did NOT do the trade...who would've backed up Paul with Marquis going down?

From what I've read, CLE would've given us AP, but they wanted a 1st round pick for a 34 year old SG/SF?

Wuh?

I don't remember the 1st rounder.  The rumor at the time was they just wanted Semih.  

But, if Danny couldn't have pried loose an Anthony Parker-level small forward from SOMEWHERE in the league (Dahntay Jones was mentioned, although that could have been pure speculation)...  if Danny couldn't have found SOME trade for a backup wing, then it really *is* time to take him down off the pedestal.

Hell, even taking back Posey and his bad contract would have been better.  Could have given Indiana Nate and Quis and saved them a lot of $$ in the process.  Could have pushed harder, maybe, for Corey Brewer (who is *exactly* who this team needed).

I mean, ****, convince me that Jeff Green is giving us any more than Sasha Pavlovic would be giving us in his spot.  I know Green's talent is >>>>> Sasha's...    how 'bout actual production?

Jeff Green's been in the league long enough where he ought to not be playing like a ****n rookie.

the_bird - like vermont_green mentioned, I'm sure that Danny kicked the tires on quite a few SFs out there. I'm not 100% sure of the particulars with CLE and AP, but evidently Danny didn't like it.

I think that as fans we only see 10-15 percent of what goes on behind the scenes. We are just not privy to all the info out there.

I trust Danny Ainge as the GM, and Doc as the coach. I trust that they are doing the best to keep this franchise competitive.

I know that we'd all love 10 pts, 5 rebs, 3 assists, 1 blk off the bench from Jeff. I just think we have to be patient.

What he gave us last night helped out and I'm thankful for it.

And you mean that you'd take back Posey and that contract? I love what Posey did for us back in 07-08, but have you seen him play lately?

[LB3533]

There is no way Danny is going to take money back so you can count future contracts out.

Danny is keeping our books clean in 2012.

[FrDrake]

I see DA trading Green over the summer in a sign and trade.  He'll likely demand $40-50 million over 4-5 years...you can't pay a guy that much money to back up PP and KG.

Some teams out there will want him and may have some assets to give up and you know DA loves acquiring assets.  Unfortunately, I agree with most others that he looks lost out there and isn't helping as much as he should.

[j804]

Green is thinking too much out there and its a fricken shame

wasted opportunity

[Greenbean]

To improve our chances against Miami and the Bulls. Look for a bigger role in the 2nd round.

I will agree he has underwhelmed so far in the playoffs. Doc has found important roles for guys after being non factors in early rounds in the past.

Keep the faith...

[vinnie]

Because he's an immensely talented 24 year old with a team friendly impending restricted free agency.

I can't wait until he starts to show us all of that "immense talent."

[GreenFaith1819]

Green is thinking too much out there and its a fricken shame

wasted opportunity

Now THIS - the thinking part - I can go with.

The man obviously has considerable talent.

[vinnie]

To improve our chances against Miami and the Bulls. Look for a bigger role in the 2nd round.

I will agree he has underwhelmed so far in the playoffs. Doc has found important roles for guys after being non factors in early rounds in the past.

Keep the faith...

I beleive he has underwhelmed since he got here. When is he going to get it? We keep hearing that he is going to break out. I sure hope so, because they are not winning a thing the way this bench is playing right now.

[Chris]

To improve our chances against Miami and the Bulls. Look for a bigger role in the 2nd round.

I will agree he has underwhelmed so far in the playoffs. Doc has found important roles for guys after being non factors in early rounds in the past.

Keep the faith...

I beleive he has underwhelmed since he got here. When is he going to get it? We keep hearing that he is going to break out. I sure hope so, because they are not winning a thing the way this bench is playing right now.

I agree with all of this.  And I also think that what we are seeing from Green is not far off from what we will get.  He does everything pretty well, but nothing great.  He is a steady bench player, but he is really not going to take over a game.

But I also don't think he is the problem.  The problem has been more with Davis and West IMO.  Davis has been simply bad.  He played decent defense against Amare in game 1, but he has been invisible on offense, and has been horrid on the boards.  We just need more from him.  And West has been invisible.  He has not run the offense well at all (Doc even took the ball out of his hands last night), and has been very hessitant.

I really think the key to turning things around from the bench is going to be West and Davis.  Green is who he is, but we know Davis and West can give a lot more than they have. 

[dlpin]

If we are going to discuss the trade, can we at least do so without assuming that Ainge is a lazy moron?

It is one thing to discuss what we gave up and got back. It is another to judge it based on fantasy trades that never came up.

I mean, even if Ainge had never thought about it, I am sure once the rumors came up he checked on what would be necessary to get Anthony Parker. And I am also sure he didn't go "I can have Anthony Parker for nothing? No. I'd much rather give up the center I drafted and resigned before he was ever good."

If there is one thing NO ONE can accuse Ainge of, is undervaluing Perkins. He drafted and resigned Perkins before anyone else ever thought he was going to be this good. I am sure that when he decided to do the trade, he entertained all other options first.

[dlpin]

I beleive he has underwhelmed since he got here. When is he going to get it? We keep hearing that he is going to break out. I sure hope so, because they are not winning a thing the way this bench is playing right now.

On a per minute basis, Jeff Green has been our best, most efficient scorer off the bench, and our best shot blocker off the bench.

More than that would be too much to expect. And it is not his fault that Doc isn't using him more.

People expect him to play at an all star level, as if we gave up an all star to get him...