Jeff Green Going Forward

[SHAQATTACK]

Jeff Green and BBD may be trade bait to bring in D12 .  Rondo may also be trade bait as well.  WIth Jackson leaving LA at the end of the season , that helps a little bit on the recuitment side.

The 6"8" guys are DIME a dozen.   Nobody here now or in college ranks can handle Howard.   Got to have the LENGHT up front. OKC knew this , that why they got Perk ... the ultimate reasoning for DA has to be to make way for a run a at D12. Hopefully PP and KG will stick around help him get his emotions under control . 

[LB3533]

Jeff Green has been awesome for the role we are asking him to play.

I don't know what you guys want out of him.

He is playing less minutes than Baby and scoring at much higher efficiency rate.

He isn't getting rebounds a heck of a lot, but who on our team is? Our team philosophy goes against huge rebounding numbers.

[GreenEnvy]

Jeff Green and BBD may be trade bait to bring in D12 .  Rondo may also be trade bait as well.  WIth Jackson leaving LA at the end of the season , that helps a little bit on the recuitment side.

The 6"8" guys are DIME a dozen.   Nobody here now or in college ranks can handle Howard.   Got to have the LENGHT up front. OKC knew this , that why they got Perk ... the ultimate reasoning for DA has to be to make way for a run a at D12. Hopefully PP and KG will stick around help him get his emotions under control . 

Green is bait alright, but not to trade for D12, to play alongside him.

It's like saying Ray was bait for KG. But it wouldn't have made sense if they were trading for each other.

With Rondo and Green, D12 would have a young, talented, athletic core.

[CelticG1]

Jeff Green has been awesome for the role we are asking him to play.

I don't know what you guys want out of him.

He is playing less minutes than Baby and scoring at much higher efficiency rate.

He isn't getting rebounds a heck of a lot, but who on our team is? Our team philosophy goes against huge rebounding numbers.

I agree with you for the most part on Jeff Green but this statement is just completely inaccurate. We might not focus on offensive rebounding but there is not a team in basketball from the grade school level all the way up to NBA teams that doesn't have defensive rebounding as a main focus to their team.

I don't think anyone cares much if we don't get any offensive rebounds as long as we aren't giving up offensive rebounds( i.e. snagging all the defensive rebounds)

Nobody is complaining about Green, Baby's, or Krstic's offensive rebounding numbers. We are worried about defensive rebounds because we are a defensive team first

[blackberry33]

Jeff Green has been awesome for the role we are asking him to play.

I don't know what you guys want out of him.

He is playing less minutes than Baby and scoring at much higher efficiency rate.

He isn't getting rebounds a heck of a lot, but who on our team is? Our team philosophy goes against huge rebounding numbers.

Great post!

[housecall]

After i listened to Danny's and Pierce's interviews yesterday on weei i came away with a better feeling towards J.Green.Danny reminded me of the team's practices in the regular season were few and far between due to it being an older team,scheduling,etc...also he reminded me of in order to give Jeff or any other player a fair assessment he need to see how they perform in the playoffs.
Pierce's said Jeff is getting better and better with each passing game and starting to pick up what he needs in order to do well.Pierce stated that with Jeff being young and coming to a team filled with hof'ers it probably looked intimidating and finding his way would take time.Paul feels the more reps.Jeff plays the better he's gotten.If anyone would know Jeff's progression from game to game,it would be Paul Pierce,someone thats on the court(live)playing aloneside him.
Danny and Pierce sounded positive about Jeff Green going forward.They both seem to have higher expectations/hopes for Green than most others.Sometimes Danny has to say things to justify his reasoning for making his trades but i don't feel with Jeff,that is the case.  

[Fafnir]

Jeff Green has been awesome for the role we are asking him to play.

I don't know what you guys want out of him.

He is playing less minutes than Baby and scoring at much higher efficiency rate.

He isn't getting rebounds a heck of a lot, but who on our team is? Our team philosophy goes against huge rebounding numbers.

I agree with you for the most part on Jeff Green but this statement is just completely inaccurate. We might not focus on offensive rebounding but there is not a team in basketball from the grade school level all the way up to NBA teams that doesn't have defensive rebounding as a main focus to their team.

I don't think anyone cares much if we don't get any offensive rebounds as long as we aren't giving up offensive rebounds( i.e. snagging all the defensive rebounds)

Nobody is complaining about Green, Baby's, or Krstic's offensive rebounding numbers. We are worried about defensive rebounds because we are a defensive team first

He's defensive rebounding numbers have trended back up to around his OKC rebounding levels (13.5). That is terrible at the PF position, but passable at the SF position.

I'm hoping that trend continues and his defensive rebounding settles in at around 15 or so.

[wiley]

Jeff Green has been awesome for the role we are asking him to play.

I don't know what you guys want out of him.

He is playing less minutes than Baby and scoring at much higher efficiency rate.

He isn't getting rebounds a heck of a lot, but who on our team is? Our team philosophy goes against huge rebounding numbers.

well said...people are putting the weight of the world on a guy getting spotty minutes in a new system...not every one who dresses in Green can be a hall of famer....think we're a bit spoiled.

I also think he'll have a great career as a starting small forward.  Not the centerpiece but an excellent glue guy who makes others better.  perfect with stars around him as he's a good passer and likes to pass, which are both true Celtic, team-first characteristics I'd say.  

As far as attaining the stars before the glue guys, I have no quibble with that.  Danny already said on the radio we could lose Green depending on the new CBA.  Therefore he felt the deal was worth doing even if we can't afford Green beyond this year.  

If there's a lockout, keeping Green might be more palatable to all.  I mean if no one's going to be playing we don't have to worry about having starter material as a backup and the degree of waste that exists there....

Bottom line, Celtics seem prepared for all scenarios and are not planning to freak if they lose Green.

Finally, there have been a few blow it up after this year if we suck in the playoffs threads.  If that scenario came true, including the blow up, Pierce could be gone and JG could start for us if the contract isn't too restrictive.

[Evantime34]

My prediction, Green will look great in this series. The best thing he has done for us is outrun the other team up the court and post up smaller defenders. Also he played much better with the starters because of how they share the ball.

Well the Knicks are going to push the pace which will allow Jeff Green to use his speed and get layups like he did against Indiana.

The Knicks always play small and will consistently guard Green with small defenders.

Due to the shortened rotation Green will be playing almost strictly with the starters. When the starters don't move the ball enough he is ineffective but I expect ball movement to be back for the playoffs which will help Green.

I hope that his good play in the first round will increase his confidence and allow him to play well in the later rounds.

[Jeff]

to put it succinctly, the only thing I fear is that Jeff Green seems to be the classic "doesn't make the most of his talent" guy

and it is worth noting that Perkins was the classic "got the most out of his talent that you could ever ask for" guy

not saying it won't work out, just saying this scares me

[LB3533]

Jeff Green has been awesome for the role we are asking him to play.

I don't know what you guys want out of him.

He is playing less minutes than Baby and scoring at much higher efficiency rate.

He isn't getting rebounds a heck of a lot, but who on our team is? Our team philosophy goes against huge rebounding numbers.

I agree with you for the most part on Jeff Green but this statement is just completely inaccurate. We might not focus on offensive rebounding but there is not a team in basketball from the grade school level all the way up to NBA teams that doesn't have defensive rebounding as a main focus to their team.

I don't think anyone cares much if we don't get any offensive rebounds as long as we aren't giving up offensive rebounds( i.e. snagging all the defensive rebounds)

Nobody is complaining about Green, Baby's, or Krstic's offensive rebounding numbers. We are worried about defensive rebounds because we are a defensive team first

What I meant was that we obviously do care about rebounding, but we don't play at a pace where we can see huge rebounding totals.

If we played at a higher pace and still kept up our high defensive rating we could force even more missed shots, leading to more defensive rebounds.

[Steve Weinman]

Jeff Green has been awesome for the role we are asking him to play.

I don't know what you guys want out of him.

He is playing less minutes than Baby and scoring at much higher efficiency rate.

He isn't getting rebounds a heck of a lot, but who on our team is? Our team philosophy goes against huge rebounding numbers.

I agree with you for the most part on Jeff Green but this statement is just completely inaccurate. We might not focus on offensive rebounding but there is not a team in basketball from the grade school level all the way up to NBA teams that doesn't have defensive rebounding as a main focus to their team.

I don't think anyone cares much if we don't get any offensive rebounds as long as we aren't giving up offensive rebounds( i.e. snagging all the defensive rebounds)

Nobody is complaining about Green, Baby's, or Krstic's offensive rebounding numbers. We are worried about defensive rebounds because we are a defensive team first

What I meant was that we obviously do care about rebounding, but we don't play at a pace where we can see huge rebounding totals.

If we played at a higher pace and still kept up our high defensive rating we could force even more missed shots, leading to more defensive rebounds.

Rebound percentage accounts for that certain of thing.

-sw

[mgent]

It would be painful to lose Green for nothing or some insignificant sign and trade package in free agency this summer.

It would be much more painful trying to build a team around Rondo, Green, and Pierce with only 10-15 million dollars worth of cap space.

We've already got 2 draft picks in 2012, I wonder what type of pick Green would yield in a trade.  If there was any way we could throw the picks in with him and get a lottery pick I'd do that.  I'd like to see us get Austin Rivers so Doc would stick around.  Perhaps Rondo, Rivers, and Pierce would attract Dwight, that would be a sick defensive team.

[Jon]

I wouldn't count Jeff Green out yet.  I also wouldn't pencil him in as Mr. Reliable.  But let's face it, the biggest problem for him is going from a guy who got 15+ shots a game in 35+ mpg to a guy playing half that much time and getting half that many shots.  To his credit, he's playing team ball and not trying to force things.  However, I think we'd all agree that we'd like to see him push the issue more. 

Still, his real value could come in what could be a NY, Miami, Chicago path to the Finals.  Especially against NY and Miami, Pierce and/or Ray are likely to get in foul trouble for at least a few games.  With Green, we could potentially see the first time in the new Big Three era where they can sustain having Pierce or Allen sit for large chunks of the first half.  And that could really go a long way.  And it could also help Green get going, as he could see extended minutes (and shots) in games. 

[Who]

It would be painful to lose Green for nothing or some insignificant sign and trade package in free agency this summer.

It would be much more painful trying to build a team around Rondo, Green, and Pierce with only 10-15 million dollars worth of cap space.

We've already got 2 draft picks in 2012, I wonder what type of pick Green would yield in a trade.  If there was any way we could throw the picks in with him and get a lottery pick I'd do that.  I'd like to see us get Austin Rivers so Doc would stick around.  Perhaps Rondo, Rivers, and Pierce would attract Dwight, that would be a sick defensive team.

I think that Paul Pierce would be useful in attracting Dwight Howard to Boston. He'll likely still be an 17-18ppg scoring threat next season and be will remain a highly regarded talent amongst his peers.

However, outside of that possibility (acquiring Dwight) ... I cannot think of any other instances where I would prefer to have Paul Pierce on the roster instead of Jeff Green post-2012.