Tired of Glen Davis

[jc3celticsphan]

sup with all the glen hate we dont say anything on here when he is hitting those shots and hes definetly guna be 6th man of the year. but when he struggles then theres glen hate i dont understand

[Yogi]

Let me add these stats last three games: BBd:102 mins., 1 offensive rebound, 2 for 8 free thows. Not what I call boxing out or clutch free throws down the stretch

Before the last couple of games, Ray Allen shot under 40% for the last 5 games.  You can find 3 game stretches that show that any player is bad.  You have to look at what they do when it matters.

[thirstyboots18]

sup with all the glen hate we dont say anything on here when he is hitting those shots and hes definitely gonna be 6th man of the year. but when he struggles then there's glen hate i dont understand

The thing is, I don't think Davis has to struggle as much as he does.  I think the pressure of being "the man" is too much to put on him.  When he plays within the system, I agree, he is a candidate for sixth man, but when he finds himself trying to "carry the team" he jeopardizes his chances because he can't be the savior.  Davis does hit some of  those shots, but he causes more turnovers with the ones he misses.  His production seems to be highest when there is  lots of ball movement, and Davis is also moving...toward the basket.  He picks up fouls and is a pretty good free throw shooter.

[ath2o]

Thirsty [mind if I call you thirsty] the big problem with Davis is mins., Doc goes to him way too much and a lot of times it's not neccesary. He's tottaly gassed

[thirstyboots18]

Thirsty [mind if I call you thirsty] the big problem with Davis is mins., Doc goes to him way too much and a lot of times it's not neccesary. He's tottaly gassed

I also agree with this, and although many disagree with me, I think if he had lost twenty lbs. his stamina would have improved greatly.  Lugging around extra pounds is hard work.

[kg is king]

So you're tired of Big Baby laying out his body and taking charges?

[ath2o]

Taking a charge every 5 or 6 games does not win championships.For every charge he's taken his man has gone past him at least 20 times! Watch the games please

[LB3533]

Taking a charge every 5 or 6 games does not win championships.For every charge he's taken his man has gone past him at least 20 times! Watch the games please

This is not really true.

The only times Baby gets beat is if he is guarding bigger players at the Center position, like Tim Duncan.

I have rarely seem opposing teams specifically try to attack Baby.

[thirstyboots18]

So you're tired of Big Baby laying out his body and taking charges?

I am not tired of it, but I would think Davis is.  I didn't see the charge counter on the Home Page, but it seems to me that Davis has not taken as many charges lately.  I don't want him hurt, he is too important to the team.  I do love his passion.  I am not slamming Glen Davis.  I just don't want him to try to exceed his role.  I have maintained all along that there is nothing wrong with being a role player. Some of the best players of all time were role players.  Bill Russell was a shot blocker, not a scorer.  Dennis Rodman was a rebounder.  John Stocton was a set up man for Karl Malone.  I maintain that Davis' role is not that of a scorer, although he can score.  IMO his main role is to play defense and not lose leads.  Of course basketball is a fluid game and it all depends on match-ups.  This is JUST my opinion.    

[ath2o]

That's my point. Name one player at the center position that's not longer than Baby

[LooseCannon]

So you're tired of Big Baby laying out his body and taking charges?

I have concern about his long-term health from doing so.  I think he is a candidate for chronic traumatic encephalopathy.  He's suffered at least two concussions, one due to a car accident and another due to a car accident.  It seems that CTE can be caused by sub-concussion impacts by having the brain repeatedly banging against the skull due to whiplash motion, with brain damage having been found in some athletes who have not had any recorded concussions.  The way he hits the floor sometimes when trying to take charges, I worry about him.  If something happened where his play led to another concussion, I would have concerns about resigning him.  Too many blows to the head and I would start to wonder if his decision-making will get worse.

[The DarkPassenger]

I'm not tired of BBD I'm just noticing things he does more. Glen's issues is that things that he does is now under a microscope because past headaches are no longer with the team or are no longer headaches so now things he does are seen more. Also he has not been challenged for his spot for quite a while and the last time he had a contender he lost (that was Powe). I do not consider Green competition to him because he is a SF first and a PF second if anything Green is competition to Wafer and Sasha.

I am hoping that BBD does not come back to the Celtics because we, for the most part, know him and his "game". He can play 25-30 maximum, shoots too many outside shots, while taking charges is his "thing" it will lead to injury issues down the line and I don't see him progressing much more than he has.

He'll be a useful player on another team and the Celtics have shown us in the past that no matter how hard it may be to find someone- a player can be replaced. If Danny does resign him, fine, I just hope it's for reasonable money and still gives us room to get some talent in here after the Big 3 leave.

[Dunn]

In 3 seasons now, Baby had led the 2nd unit. In those same 3 seasons you have watched C's lose the #1 seed all 3 times. You have watched C's slump in the second half of the season only to blame every player to not named Baby. Truth is in those same 3 seasons that were results of injuries, Baby has given this team everything he's got, and it was never enough. Danny and Doc can think getting rid of Rasheed, House, and Nate was going to fix the problem but have to get a clue. Spacing is horrible with Baby, I can certainly see how he alone destroys our offense, especially for Ray and the aforementioned guys who he played with. It's just like this Blog to have Baby's charge watch knowing full well he's allowing way more offensive rebounds to other teams.

[jc3celticsphan]

sup with all the glen hate we dont say anything on here when he is hitting those shots and hes definitely gonna be 6th man of the year. but when he struggles then there's glen hate i dont understand

The thing is, I don't think Davis has to struggle as much as he does.  I think the pressure of being "the man" is too much to put on him.  When he plays within the system, I agree, he is a candidate for sixth man, but when he finds himself trying to "carry the team" he jeopardizes his chances because he can't be the savior.  Davis does hit some of  those shots, but he causes more turnovers with the ones he misses.  His production seems to be highest when there is  lots of ball movement, and Davis is also moving...toward the basket.  He picks up fouls and is a pretty good free throw shooter.

Its true I can understand where ppl are getting fustrated, he needs to start his game from the inside out and not from the outside in. He's most effective in the paint grabing offensive rebounds, thats glen @ his best. I like glen alot tho he has potential, hes just not there mentally yet.

[jdz101]

Obviously baby is going to have some downside, just look at the guy's physique, but he also brings tremendous upside to this team.

The whole taking too many shots thing isnt so bad for me...here's why:


With baby he's probably going to take the wrong jump shot occasionally.

He also has times where he'll be fighting with a teammate for a defensive rebound where he doesn't need to and the ball will pop out to the opposition.

He'll get fouls called on him where he's scrappy and cannons into the opposition

These are all signs of a guy that will do anything within his power to win. As a coach you want a guy making these mistakes because you know he's really giving it his all.

Let's face it, we know his physique isn't that great, but what we also know is that this dude will do
everything within that physique's capabilities to win for the green.