Interesting Article on Bulls Weakness & C's Trade

[Neurotic Guy]

It's an interesting idea, although I think the possibility of needing wings to guard LeBron and Wade for a 7 game series helped too.  Although I don't think one loss to an athletic team indicates a glaring flaw in Chicago.  Thibs is a good coach, I'd imagine he's got plans to counter that kind of approach in the future.

It's a real balancing act trying to keep enough horses up front to be able to bang with the Lakers while still having the wings to suppress Miami's strength and attack Chicago's weakness.  I hope we have enough to do it.

What's interesting is that the way the playoffs look today, we will face Miami and CHicago rather than Orlando -- which seemed like a certainty a month ago.  Perk's strength was against the beef of Howard and Bynum/Gasol.  If all goes well, we won't see either the Magic or Lakers.

If we do see the Lakers and Shaq is healthy -- I think he'll absolutely be a disruptive force in the middle.  He'll also be a seething monster to have a crack at his old team and Kobe. We'd only need that fire-breathing monster for 4 of 7 games.

[stylo617617]

well theres no way boozer can gaurd green on the wing so thats good & i also think size wise we match up against anyone
shaq-7'1
j.o -6'11
kg-basically 7'0

its funny how everyone thinks we got smaller we lost some physical presence that shaq can easily make up &


i think were even more balanced since the trade

[Roy H.]

It's an interesting idea, although I think the possibility of needing wings to guard LeBron and Wade for a 7 game series helped too.  Although I don't think one loss to an athletic team indicates a glaring flaw in Chicago.  Thibs is a good coach, I'd imagine he's got plans to counter that kind of approach in the future.

It's a real balancing act trying to keep enough horses up front to be able to bang with the Lakers while still having the wings to suppress Miami's strength and attack Chicago's weakness.  I hope we have enough to do it.

What's interesting is that the way the playoffs look today, we will face Miami and CHicago rather than Orlando -- which seemed like a certainty a month ago.  Perk's strength was against the beef of Howard and Bynum/Gasol.  If all goes well, we won't see either the Magic or Lakers.

Perk obviously is a big help against the Magic or Lakers, but I wouldn't minimize his defense against teams like the Heat or Bulls, either.  Perk is both a great one-on-one and team defender.  He makes smart rotations, and knows how to cut off penetration.  When Lebron, Wade, or Rose gets by the perimeter defense, Perk was there to disrupt shots, or to at least make them play with a hard foul.

In fact, it's in team defense that I think we're hurt the most.  Shaq can still guard opposing centers at a high level; he's good at putting a body on people.  Where he's not as good is at making rotations, defending the pick-and-roll, etc.  He's simply too immobile / slow at this point to do so consistently, and as a consequence he picks up a lot of cheap fouls.  (As for Krstic, unfortunately he fails to be even average at either one-on-one or team defense).

[Roy H.]

well theres no way boozer can gaurd green on the wing so thats good & i also think size wise we match up against anyone
shaq-7'1
j.o -6'11
kg-basically 7'0

its funny how everyone thinks we got smaller we lost some physical presence that shaq can easily make up &


i think were even more balanced since the trade

Boozer would struggle guarding Green on the perimeter, but Boozer would absolutely destroy Green on the other end, as well.

In their careers, Boozer is averaging 23 points, 11 rebounds, 4 assists, and 56% shooting against Green and the Thunder.  On the other end, Green has averaged 15 / 5 / 2 / 45%.  Obviously, they didn't score all their points against one another, but it's a pretty good indication that traditionally, Boozer has come out ahead in those matchups.

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

This must be true, because ever since the trade Doc has consistently closed games with  a "Big 4 plus Green" lineup.

Oh, wait. He's never done that.

This must not be true, because ever since the trade we have played the bulls.

Oh, wait. We haven't done that.

[OsirusCeltics]

well theres no way boozer can gaurd green on the wing so thats good & i also think size wise we match up against anyone
shaq-7'1
j.o -6'11
kg-basically 7'0

its funny how everyone thinks we got smaller we lost some physical presence that shaq can easily make up &


i think were even more balanced since the trade

Ehhh-xactly Lol. Couldn't have said it better
TP

[wdleehi]

well theres no way boozer can gaurd green on the wing so thats good & i also think size wise we match up against anyone
shaq-7'1
j.o -6'11
kg-basically 7'0

its funny how everyone thinks we got smaller we lost some physical presence that shaq can easily make up &


i think were even more balanced since the trade

Ehhh-xactly Lol. Couldn't have said it better
TP

Please see Roy H's post above about how Boozer and Green have matched up in the past.

[chambers]

well theres no way boozer can gaurd green on the wing so thats good & i also think size wise we match up against anyone
shaq-7'1
j.o -6'11
kg-basically 7'0

its funny how everyone thinks we got smaller we lost some physical presence that shaq can easily make up &


i think were even more balanced since the trade

Boozer would struggle guarding Green on the perimeter, but Boozer would absolutely destroy Green on the other end, as well.

In their careers, Boozer is averaging 23 points, 11 rebounds, 4 assists, and 56% shooting against Green and the Thunder.  On the other end, Green has averaged 15 / 5 / 2 / 45%.  Obviously, they didn't score all their points against one another, but it's a pretty good indication that traditionally, Boozer has come out ahead in those matchups.

How often do you think boozer/green would guard each other in a 7 game series?
Don't see the point in comparing those two.
Completely different scenario to the Bulls playing OKC.

Are people forgetting we are the number 1 defensive team this year without Perkins?
KG will be guarding Boozer and should destroy him as he normally does.
What I wouldn't want to see is Boozer have his way with Big Baby.

[jaser]

I see the point of the trade, but what if we overestimated Green's defense? He still looks lost out there (both on offense and defense).

[Roy H.]

well theres no way boozer can gaurd green on the wing so thats good & i also think size wise we match up against anyone
shaq-7'1
j.o -6'11
kg-basically 7'0

its funny how everyone thinks we got smaller we lost some physical presence that shaq can easily make up &


i think were even more balanced since the trade

Boozer would struggle guarding Green on the perimeter, but Boozer would absolutely destroy Green on the other end, as well.

In their careers, Boozer is averaging 23 points, 11 rebounds, 4 assists, and 56% shooting against Green and the Thunder.  On the other end, Green has averaged 15 / 5 / 2 / 45%.  Obviously, they didn't score all their points against one another, but it's a pretty good indication that traditionally, Boozer has come out ahead in those matchups.

How often do you think boozer/green would guard each other in a 7 game series?
Don't see the point in comparing those two.
Completely different scenario to the Bulls playing OKC.

Are people forgetting we are the number 1 defensive team this year without Perkins?
KG will be guarding Boozer and should destroy him as he normally does.
What I wouldn't want to see is Boozer have his way with Big Baby.

I was responding to the part in bold above; I wouldn't play Green at PF against Boozer, because we'd basically be begging to get dominated on the boards and in the post.

[KG Living Legend]

 Wow. What a stretch. I mean come on, We made this trade because we want to go small against the Bulls? Really?
 

 It's looking more and more like we should have paid perkins what OKC did, but Danny didn't want to and here we are, hoping for the best.

[Who]

well theres no way boozer can gaurd green on the wing so thats good & i also think size wise we match up against anyone
shaq-7'1
j.o -6'11
kg-basically 7'0

its funny how everyone thinks we got smaller we lost some physical presence that shaq can easily make up &


i think were even more balanced since the trade

Boozer would struggle guarding Green on the perimeter, but Boozer would absolutely destroy Green on the other end, as well.

In their careers, Boozer is averaging 23 points, 11 rebounds, 4 assists, and 56% shooting against Green and the Thunder.  On the other end, Green has averaged 15 / 5 / 2 / 45%.  Obviously, they didn't score all their points against one another, but it's a pretty good indication that traditionally, Boozer has come out ahead in those matchups.

How often do you think boozer/green would guard each other in a 7 game series?
Don't see the point in comparing those two.
Completely different scenario to the Bulls playing OKC.

Are people forgetting we are the number 1 defensive team this year without Perkins?
KG will be guarding Boozer and should destroy him as he normally does.
What I wouldn't want to see is Boozer have his way with Big Baby.

I was responding to the part in bold above; I wouldn't play Green at PF against Boozer, because we'd basically be begging to get dominated on the boards and in the post.

How about putting Jeff Green on Joakim Noah? And keep Garnett on Boozer?

I would like to see those defensive matchups in the final Bulls vs C's regular season game. See how they play out.

Noah would have a fairly large advantage on the backboards though ... not sure whether he could take advantage of Green offensively or not.