Do posters pay more attention to volume posters?

[Rondo2287]

Here's what I'm trying to understand.

Are infrequent/new posters feeling like they should be an instant part of the comraderie on here?  To me, that's a far-fetched notion. You're probably not gonna feel part of it right off the bat. 

Look at any aspect of life; starting a new job or school, hanging out with different groups of people, joining a sports team or club, etc.

It takes time to fit in & be accepted by those groups.  This place is no exception. You contribute, pay your dues, perhaps pop in more than twice a month and if you're posting quality stuff and engaging with other posters then you should become more of a part of the community.

It takes time to "fit in" to any situation.  Sometimes, I think there is a sense of "instant gratification" that people are looking for.  To me, its unrealistic to think you can just walk into a situation and be immediately accepted and praised.  It takes time. If you're posting quality stuff or just being funny, then eventually you're going to be noticed. 

We agree here Don's

Honestly though I have never had any inkling of this phenomenon that you are describing.  Personally I think its just another case of people needing instant gratification in our society, and not wanting to work for anything anymore

[indeedproceed]

So, what would you like to see happen?

Nothing.  It would be nice if the low-posting underclass didn't exist, but there is no realistic way of changing the status quo.  I think that this is the natural order of things, and I've accepted it for what it is.  Specialized forums are almost always like this.

I just thought it worth pointing out that for all of the interest generated in this topic, we more or less treaded water for 15 pages.

Is it weird that this made me think of the moment in white men can't jump where Gloria says she's thirsty, then Billy brings her a class of water.

And she says, "When I was said I was thirsty, it doesn't mean I want a glass of water. I want you to sympathize. I want you to say, 'Gloria, I too, know what it feels like to be thirsty. I too, have had a dry mouth.'"

[Rondo2287]

So, what would you like to see happen?

Nothing.  It would be nice if the low-posting underclass didn't exist, but there is no realistic way of changing the status quo.  I think that this is the natural order of things, and I've accepted it for what it is.  Specialized forums are almost always like this.

I just thought it worth pointing out that for all of the interest generated in this topic, we more or less treaded water for 15 pages.

Or you could put more ideas out there, post more, and you won't have an issue.  But I don't think complaining about it here is doing you an favors

[Interceptor]

Are infrequent/new posters feeling like they should be an instant part of the comraderie on here?

I can only speak for myself, but "no".  I suspect that's true of others as well, too.

Is it weird that this made me think of the moment in white men can't jump where Gloria says she's thirsty, then Billy brings her a class of water.

And she says, "When I was said I was thirsty, it doesn't mean I want a glass of water. I want you to sympathize. I want you to say, 'Gloria, I too, know what it feels like to be thirsty. I too, have had a dry mouth.'"

One man's weird, is another's man perfectly apt pop-culture reference.  My pay grade is not high enough to judge.

Or you could put more ideas out there, post more, and you won't have an issue.  But I don't think complaining about it here is doing you an favors

I never had "an issue" to begin with.  Is there some other way that I can word my posts, that will get this point across?  If you think that I am complaining, my response to you is that you're reading something from my posts that was not there to be read in the first place.  This soldier is only making an observation.

[Fafnir]

People call this a good thread, and I guess it is in some respects (because people seem to be enjoying themselves), but at the same time I feel like it basically went nowhere.

The divide remains:  infrequent contributors largely see what the OP is getting at, volume posters largely have no idea what the former is talking about.  Lecturing happened, unsolicited advice was given (repeatedly), words were put in people's mouths... and nobody's minds were changed.  The thread was derailed multiple times -- accompanied by little apparent sense of irony on the part of the derailers -- with "old boy's club" inside-joking and image macros.  Finally, if a highlight reel of this thread is ever made, surely the TP-bomb rates #1:  is there any better example of the disconnect between community members than that?  I for one understood immediately why the OP felt insulted.

It was interesting, at any rate.

The idea that greater self awareness and/or understanding isn't worthwhile is a disturbing one.

[ACF]

I think that FrDrake and Interceptor have already shown that they can be good additions to this blog. Now, get posting, fellas.

[MattG12]

I think that FrDrake and Interceptor have already shown that they can be good additions to this blog. Now, get posting, fellas.

Truth

[Rondo9dunx]

The real question is: Who would actually care about being part of the "boys club" on an internet forum?

[MattG12]

People call this a good thread, and I guess it is in some respects (because people seem to be enjoying themselves), but at the same time I feel like it basically went nowhere.

The divide remains:  infrequent contributors largely see what the OP is getting at, volume posters largely have no idea what the former is talking about.  Lecturing happened, unsolicited advice was given (repeatedly), words were put in people's mouths... and nobody's minds were changed.  The thread was derailed multiple times -- accompanied by little apparent sense of irony on the part of the derailers -- with "old boy's club" inside-joking and image macros.  Finally, if a highlight reel of this thread is ever made, surely the TP-bomb rates #1:  is there any better example of the disconnect between community members than that?  I for one understood immediately why the OP felt insulted.

It was interesting, at any rate.

Such a good post... I've been trying to inform the blog of this disconnect for years... it doesn't work. Eventually you learn to ignore it. I wish there was a better fix but even if there was one, nobody would agree on it. We are a blog filled with many extremely opinionated people. In some cases it's horrible and in others it produces some of the best discussions you can have.

[Rondo9dunx]

Off topic: Does anyone ever notice on this board that posters usually tend to respond more to high-volume posters who they already know, even when the comments are redundant, rather than notice posts from others who they may not know? 

I have never really noticed though, to be honest. I read every post on every thread that interests me most of the time. And I never take who posted what into consideration before I respond to something.

I mean a lot of the guys that do have high post counts tend to have something interesting to say just because they have and continue to spend a lot of time thinking, reading and talking about the celtics.


What I have noticed though is that certain posters get TP's for absolutely nothing. I have been keepin track of one guys TPs for a few weeks and it's almost as if he gets a TP for every post he makes. Not that I care or anything like that, it just shows that there are  lot of people here that throw TPs around because they do have some strange desire to be part of the boys club

Having those kinds of people feeding you TPs kinda devalues them in my opinion. But again in the grand scheme of things this is an internet blog forum and is not to be taken seriously.

[mgent]

Here's what I'm trying to understand.

Are infrequent/new posters feeling like they should be an instant part of the comraderie on here?  To me, that's a far-fetched notion. You're probably not gonna feel part of it right off the bat. 

Look at any aspect of life; starting a new job or school, hanging out with different groups of people, joining a sports team or club, etc.

It takes time to fit in & be accepted by those groups.  This place is no exception. You contribute, pay your dues, perhaps pop in more than twice a month and if you're posting quality stuff and engaging with other posters then you should become more of a part of the community.

It takes time to "fit in" to any situation.  Sometimes, I think there is a sense of "instant gratification" that people are looking for.  To me, its unrealistic to think you can just walk into a situation and be immediately accepted and praised.  It takes time. If you're posting quality stuff or just being funny, then eventually you're going to be noticed. 

I don't know if you're responding to someone else because I haven't read most of this thread but I don't think the OP was hinting at anything this in depth.

I think he probably just noticed that some of his long well-thought posts were getting lost while a high volume poster who said the exact same thing summed up into 1 or 2 sentences with maybe an inside joke tagged onto the end was getting a ton of responses.

Probably wasn't seeking attention or instant gratification, just didn't realize how much a blog about a basketball team could be like highschool with the "popular kids" and what-not.

[indeedproceed]

Such a good post... I've been trying to inform the blog of this disconnect for years... it doesn't work. Eventually you learn to ignore it. I wish there was a better fix but even if there was one, nobody would agree on it. We are a blog filled with many extremely opinionated people. In some cases it's horrible and in others it produces some of the best discussions you can have.

I promise I'm not being obtuse here. I swear, I'm not being facetious either. But

1) What exactly is the disconnect you're talking about? Please, define it for me in very concise and definite terms, because I sincerely do not get it.

2) What is the 'better fix'? What is the 'worse fix'? Should it be fixed, and is it even broke?

[Rondo2287]

I have noticed a pattern here, seems like everybody here (with the exception of Mattg12) that has an issue with not getting responded to has claimed that stop posting, except to come here and say they don't get responded too.

Not posting is one good way to not get responded to. 

[Donoghus]

Anytime you have a staff and a general public, there's going to be a disconnect.  There's no way around it.  It happens.  Nature of the beast.

To me, its futile to spin your wheels about it.

[Rondo9dunx]

Such a good post... I've been trying to inform the blog of this disconnect for years... it doesn't work. Eventually you learn to ignore it. I wish there was a better fix but even if there was one, nobody would agree on it. We are a blog filled with many extremely opinionated people. In some cases it's horrible and in others it produces some of the best discussions you can have.

I promise I'm not being obtuse here. I swear, I'm not being facetious either. But

1) What exactly is the disconnect you're talking about? Please, define it for me in very concise and definite terms, because I sincerely do not get it.

2) What is the 'better fix'? What is the 'worse fix'? Should it be fixed, and is it even broke?

in his argument the "disconnect" is that instead of focusing on trying to get the best information out of threads people are more interested in getting quoted by you, roy and BFM in the hopes that people will start blowin up thier threads and feeding them TPs


and if that is what he's talking about there is no fix, it's just human nature. life on the internet is much like high school.



(note: I dont necessarily care/agree with the OP's idea. I personally could care less about being "accepted" I think you, roy and BFM make a lot of great posts and I could care less how many TPs you guys have. Kinda sounds to me like the OP just ate some sour grapes.

I knew people like that in high school. The kids who felt they just as, if not more so interesting, cool, smart as the popular kids but for some reason they just dont have the following.

Just my opinion as an outsider looking in, no one needs to be offended. You guys are all celtics fans so I love you no matter what!