Krstic regressing to the mean

[EJPLAYA]

Yep, bad game. But answer me this, why the heck are they posting Krstic up? It makes zero sense. He's a pick-and-pop player. Use him as such. And for that matter, if he's having trouble down low today, why keep going to him there? Seriously, he's having a bad game, but I'm scratching my head on the decision making all around.

because that's what you need out of you center. right now we are getting too few post up looks. people underrated that aspect of Perk's game.

we got sold this idea that we needed a big that could clear out the middle with a mid-range game, but what we actually need is a big who you can dump the ball into and do some work down there.

there just were so many "ideas" that were fundamentally wrong with the Perk trade and now we are seeing them up close.

Yes, because we really missed Perks 4 pts and 3 boards tonight out there (his contribution in his game tonight). I agree with the sentiment that losing him cost us some toughness in the post, however his offensive post game was absolutely horrible. Lets not make the guy out to be Kevin Mchale out there on the blocks. He was a poor offensive player but a gutty tough guy. This current level of play has little to do with him being gone and more to do with our not getting Ray and Paul the shots they should be getting. Instead we are relying on Kristic and BBD to shoot.

[winsomme]

Yep, bad game. But answer me this, why the heck are they posting Krstic up? It makes zero sense. He's a pick-and-pop player. Use him as such. And for that matter, if he's having trouble down low today, why keep going to him there? Seriously, he's having a bad game, but I'm scratching my head on the decision making all around.

because that's what you need out of you center. right now we are getting too few post up looks. people underrated that aspect of Perk's game.

we got sold this idea that we needed a big that could clear out the middle with a mid-range game, but what we actually need is a big who you can dump the ball into and do some work down there.

there just were so many "ideas" that were fundamentally wrong with the Perk trade and now we are seeing them up close.

Yes, because we really missed Perks 4 pts and 3 boards tonight out there (his contribution in his game tonight). I agree with the sentiment that losing him cost us some toughness in the post, however his offensive post game was absolutely horrible. Lets not make the guy out to be Kevin Mchale out there on the blocks. He was a poor offensive player but a gutty tough guy. This current level of play has little to do with him being gone and more to do with our not getting Ray and Paul the shots they should be getting. Instead we are relying on Kristic and BBD to shoot.

which is why i say he was underrated. people don't realize that he did his work on the blocks.

it's just like Powe. there's nothing pretty about what Perk did in the post, but that's where he played. that's where he did his work.

we got sold a bill of goods that we needed to open up the paint, but it really was not the case. we need players who make their living in the blocks and while Perk didn't put up big numbers down there, it's where he lived. Krstic looks like someone walking through the wrong neighborhood when he's working down there.

[EJPLAYA]

Yep, bad game. But answer me this, why the heck are they posting Krstic up? It makes zero sense. He's a pick-and-pop player. Use him as such. And for that matter, if he's having trouble down low today, why keep going to him there? Seriously, he's having a bad game, but I'm scratching my head on the decision making all around.

because that's what you need out of you center. right now we are getting too few post up looks. people underrated that aspect of Perk's game.

we got sold this idea that we needed a big that could clear out the middle with a mid-range game, but what we actually need is a big who you can dump the ball into and do some work down there.

there just were so many "ideas" that were fundamentally wrong with the Perk trade and now we are seeing them up close.

Yes, because we really missed Perks 4 pts and 3 boards tonight out there (his contribution in his game tonight). I agree with the sentiment that losing him cost us some toughness in the post, however his offensive post game was absolutely horrible. Lets not make the guy out to be Kevin Mchale out there on the blocks. He was a poor offensive player but a gutty tough guy. This current level of play has little to do with him being gone and more to do with our not getting Ray and Paul the shots they should be getting. Instead we are relying on Kristic and BBD to shoot.

which is why i say he was underrated. people don't realize that he did his work on the blocks.

it's just like Powe. there's nothing pretty about what Perk did in the post, but that's where he played. that's where he did his work.

we got sold a bill of goods that we needed to open up the paint, but it really was not the case. we need players who make their living in the blocks and while Perk didn't put up big numbers down there, it's where he lived. Krstic looks like someone walking through the wrong neighborhood when he's working down there.

Like was said in a different thread, Perk isn't the center that we miss. It is Shaq. We are a better team with Shaq in there than with Perk. I love Perk, but he was over rated, not under rated IMO.

[winsomme]

Yep, bad game. But answer me this, why the heck are they posting Krstic up? It makes zero sense. He's a pick-and-pop player. Use him as such. And for that matter, if he's having trouble down low today, why keep going to him there? Seriously, he's having a bad game, but I'm scratching my head on the decision making all around.

because that's what you need out of you center. right now we are getting too few post up looks. people underrated that aspect of Perk's game.

we got sold this idea that we needed a big that could clear out the middle with a mid-range game, but what we actually need is a big who you can dump the ball into and do some work down there.

there just were so many "ideas" that were fundamentally wrong with the Perk trade and now we are seeing them up close.

Yes, because we really missed Perks 4 pts and 3 boards tonight out there (his contribution in his game tonight). I agree with the sentiment that losing him cost us some toughness in the post, however his offensive post game was absolutely horrible. Lets not make the guy out to be Kevin Mchale out there on the blocks. He was a poor offensive player but a gutty tough guy. This current level of play has little to do with him being gone and more to do with our not getting Ray and Paul the shots they should be getting. Instead we are relying on Kristic and BBD to shoot.

which is why i say he was underrated. people don't realize that he did his work on the blocks.

it's just like Powe. there's nothing pretty about what Perk did in the post, but that's where he played. that's where he did his work.

we got sold a bill of goods that we needed to open up the paint, but it really was not the case. we need players who make their living in the blocks and while Perk didn't put up big numbers down there, it's where he lived. Krstic looks like someone walking through the wrong neighborhood when he's working down there.

Like was said in a different thread, Perk isn't the center that we miss. It is Shaq. We are a better team with Shaq in there than with Perk. I love Perk, but he was over rated, not under rated IMO.

well whatever...I'm not gonna get in a Shaq/Perk debate....

we need someone who knows which end is up playing in the blocks because right now the middle of our team has a big gaping hole.

[BudweiserCeltic]

This is quite simple. You put KG in the block more often, have Krstic away from the basket, and have Pierce and Rondo penetrate.

That's the type of offense we should run constantly, with players in that role.

What I'm seeing a lot of is Krstic getting the ball in the post, and pick-and-pop plays with KG. While KG is a good jump shooter, this is no way to run our offense. And when Krstic is setting a pick, he's rolling instead of popping, again, not the way he of use.

If Krstic's role in our offense is one of a floor spacing big, let's start using him like that. Else, he's wasted and not only do we end up with an ineffective offense, we are worse on defense with nothing to show for it.

[Megatron]

Simple.

Somehow get the Oneals back and we wont have to see Krstic play.

If Kristc is our starting center during the playoffs, we aint making it out of the 2nd round.

[Chris]

Simple.

Somehow get the Oneals back and we wont have to see Krstic play.

If Kristc is our starting center during the playoffs, we aint making it out of the 2nd round.

Agreed.  Although I am OK with Krstic playing 10 minutes per game with the second unit against most teams.  He won't be exploited as badly then, and will be more effective against the second units, and with the extra rest.  But this team is in trouble if he is starting.

[BudweiserCeltic]

Simple.

Somehow get the Oneals back and we wont have to see Krstic play.

If Kristc is our starting center during the playoffs, we aint making it out of the 2nd round.

Agreed.  Although I am OK with Krstic playing 10 minutes per game with the second unit against most teams.  He won't be exploited as badly then, and will be more effective against the second units, and with the extra rest.  But this team is in trouble if he is starting.

The sad part in all of this is that Krstic is not the problem, it's the rest of the starters. They're simply not performing at all. So, will Shaq help? No doubt, but what needs fixing is not that. It's Paul/Ray/KG/Rondo playing like they should. In particular Rondo and KG, and Pierce a bit as of late. And it's on both sides of the floor. Biggest disappointment for me in the last 6 games or so is how poor KG is defending, for whatever reason it is.

[BballTim]

Simple.

Somehow get the Oneals back and we wont have to see Krstic play.

If Kristc is our starting center during the playoffs, we aint making it out of the 2nd round.

Agreed.  Although I am OK with Krstic playing 10 minutes per game with the second unit against most teams.  He won't be exploited as badly then, and will be more effective against the second units, and with the extra rest.  But this team is in trouble if he is starting.

The sad part in all of this is that Krstic is not the problem, it's the rest of the starters. They're simply not performing at all. So, will Shaq help? No doubt, but what needs fixing is not that. It's Paul/Ray/KG/Rondo playing like they should. In particular Rondo and KG, and Pierce a bit as of late. And it's on both sides of the floor. Biggest disappointment for me in the last 6 games or so is how poor KG is defending, for whatever reason it is.

  Ray's no better than anyone else, and his defense has been pretty putrid as well.

[Chris]

Simple.

Somehow get the Oneals back and we wont have to see Krstic play.

If Kristc is our starting center during the playoffs, we aint making it out of the 2nd round.

Agreed.  Although I am OK with Krstic playing 10 minutes per game with the second unit against most teams.  He won't be exploited as badly then, and will be more effective against the second units, and with the extra rest.  But this team is in trouble if he is starting.

The sad part in all of this is that Krstic is not the problem, it's the rest of the starters. They're simply not performing at all. So, will Shaq help? No doubt, but what needs fixing is not that. It's Paul/Ray/KG/Rondo playing like they should. In particular Rondo and KG, and Pierce a bit as of late. And it's on both sides of the floor. Biggest disappointment for me in the last 6 games or so is how poor KG is defending, for whatever reason it is.

I agree up until the last few games.  Rondo picked up his play over the last 3 games, and in the second half of the NYK game, and the whole game against Memphis, the starters all seemed to be working hard and were engaged. 

The Memphis game was the first game that I think they were all really trying, and the lack of depth and toughness in the middle really hurt them. 

[dtrader]

This shouldn't really surprise people; if he was capable of consistently giving us 15/8, or whatever his early stats were, he'd be making $10 million per season.

Well, this certainly isn't one of his better games, and he's already at 6/7, in 18 mins.  If he played 30-32 mins as he typically has when he's reached the 15/8 stat average, it's even possible to reach that goal tonight. Not saying it'll happen.  I'm just saying that even in what looks to be another sub par game from him, the numbers that he achieved at his best, are still in reach (which makes me think theyre still easily within his capabilities).