Blame both Bigs not Rondo

[clover]

Baby plays good defense and knows the defensive system.

Rondo's inability to hit a jumper or free throws, play defense and run the offense instead of dribbling out the shot clock has nothing to do with the bigs, imo.

We are not missing Perk, we are missing Shaq.  Shaq will take care of the toughness.  We just need him back.

Davis was the only Celtic who showed up last night.

Yeah, the guards did not play any better, but the C's big men other than Davis got completely outworked. 

The C's have turned the switch off, and we likely won't see it back on until the playoffs.

When do we just shut down our starters and say to hell with homecourt advantage? Yet on the flip side with Shaq coming back if he ever does aren't we going to need all our starters to log significant time for that cohesion, rhythm etc?

I dont know what to think anymore 

Considering that Shaq's likely to only play 20 minutes a night, I don't see how the other starters have to log long minutes playing with him.

[jaser]

how about giving the rockets credit? they played with urgency, never lost composure, and executed their game plan. i blame it on the whole team.  

[LilRip]

So another bad loss and it's clear the whole starting unit failed vs Houston but only Rondo dominates the news again. What a complete cop out and easy target they make our point guard when issues are happening with bigs. Can someone explain why Doc has pulled Krstic early and often or why he believes still that Baby is a better option. This is where the problem begins, originated and will continue. Just because most of you dismissed it because Krstic can hit jumpers is plain ignorant. We've seen so many post about blaming Baby for playing losing basketball despite his efforts. Now Krstic has shown exact same lack of interior toughness. Am I wrong or did KG have huge issues playing with European bigs in Minnesota why? You can't bench one stupid big for an even shorter stupid big. What happens is a rout like last night. I've said it before, get the weaklings away from the four all-stars. Doc should insert Green to play more with the 1st unit because you aren't helping him or other four by playing them with these bigs. You can't seriously be inspired by the lack of Baby's and Krstic's interior defense, because they are as soft as I've ever seen two bigs here since Mikki Moore wore green. Even more insane is those same fans who'd count Baby's flopcharges. If you're a smart fan, you'd prefer a rebound or block sending Rondo the other way for easy fastbreak baskets, not stopping the ball so that teams can run Lakers type defense leaving Rondo to beat you in halfcourt. 6th man please, Lamar Odom is laughing too. For a dude who only played a total of 15 minutes, scoring only three points the last time C's won it all, Baby gets an undeserved free ride here. All I'm saying is stop blaming the four players that earned their rings, broke records, and represented this team as all-stars, what just last month? Get the O'neals ready for the playoffs!

did you watch the game? Krstic picked up 2 quick fouls. one was a joke though (off a jump ball and he was the one jumping).

and i think it's only right that we get mad at Rondo. it comes with the territory. If he wants to be the leader of this team, he's going to have to be accountable when the team loses and puts up a stinker like this one. I've read a lot of posts/threads/whatevers that say "the biggest reason we win is because of Rondo", and with the way he's been playing, he's also a pretty big reason why we lose.

to put it in another perspective, if Wade or Lebron had a miserable streak like Rondo's been having, i'm sure there would be a ton of threads on CB pointing out how overrated they are and how the Heat won't win a champtionship. granted Rondo isn't as much of a stat-sheet stuffer like LBJ is, but you get the picture. guys like Lowry and Mo-Will aren't just outplaying Rondo, they're dominating him. Imagine Marvin Williams or Tayshaun Prince dominating Lebron. i think a lot of us are right in calling Rondo out on his performances. he's supposed to be a top 3 PG. he should start playing like one.

[KobeGotRondoD]

we should trade rondo this summer

[vinnie]

Shaq may want to win another ring, but his 39-year-old body might now allow it. Danny took a pretty big risk trading Perk and depending on Shaq and/or JO coming back. We will just have to wait and see.

[CoachBo]

Baby plays good defense and knows the defensive system.

Rondo's inability to hit a jumper or free throws, play defense and run the offense instead of dribbling out the shot clock has nothing to do with the bigs, imo.

We are not missing Perk, we are missing Shaq.  Shaq will take care of the toughness.  We just need him back.

TP. There's simply nowhere for Rondo to hide. The quality of his play since the All Star Break has been abysmal.

[Dunn]

Excuse me did the rout not occur with Baby on the floor? Check your Tivo, because it got out hand when Doc threw in Arroyo, while Baby was out there. We can have difference of opinion but some of you think Baby is doing exactly what he's suppose to. If that were the case Doc would have started him long time ago. What you saw was Baby scoring and trying to defend in a rout, and the game got even more way out of reach.  You heard he was the only one doing anything and still didn't figure then how'd they still get blownout? Foul trouble in 13 minutes, you're right Doc didn't just kept pulling Krstic from this game, but this is the second time in two games, no? 

[SHAQATTACK]

The 4 th quarter was won by our 2 unit against their starters. Baby did his job thank you very much.

Rhondo maybe passive agressive  with his attitude towards the Celtics for trading off his best bud. I hope this is not the case, him making some sort of statement with his play based on his feelings about the trade. Seems to much of a coincidence to me.

I wish somebody would sit him down and  "GET HIS MIND RIGHT"

[Dunn]

And right on time, Baby comes in down by 14 again.

[Megatron]

The 4 th quarter was won by our 2 unit against their starters. Baby did his job thank you very much.

Rhondo maybe passive agressive  with his attitude towards the Celtics for trading off his best bud. I hope this is not the case, him making some sort of statement with his play based on his feelings about the trade. Seems to much of a coincidence to me.

I wish somebody would sit him down and  "GET HIS MIND RIGHT"

I really doubt Rondo is playing bad to spite the team for trading Perkins.

You would have to be an extremely stupid and weak person to say "im going to play terrible and forfeit the championship because Perkins got traded"

And according to reports, Rondo is extremely smart.

[Dunn]

Guys like Baby can play hard and get credit for scoring but we win with efforts by Delonte and Jeff, because they can get stops. Baby playing with the 1st unit didn't help until Delonte West and Jeff Green shifted the game. Baby missed a bunch of defensive rebounds while letting David West get his way to 32 points. Games like this gloss over Baby's limitations, earning him credit for only thing he does best, scoring. I often said if he leads this team in points we either lose big or squeaked out a win, happened last two games. I'd rather blow out teams out fast break, half court Baby kills all that. This won't get it done in the playoffs. C's need healthy Rondo, Paul and more Green.

[ben]

more green! let green play the 4, let green play the 3, let green play the 2, more green!  amen. 

[Bankshot]

Guys like Baby can play hard and get credit for scoring but we win with efforts by Delonte and Jeff, because they can get stops. Baby playing with the 1st unit didn't help until Delonte West and Jeff Green shifted the game. Baby missed a bunch of defensive rebounds while letting David West get his way to 32 points. Games like this gloss over Baby's limitations, earning him credit for only thing he does best, scoring. I often said if he leads this team in points we either lose big or squeaked out a win, happened last two games. I'd rather blow out teams out fast break, half court Baby kills all that. This won't get it done in the playoffs. C's need healthy Rondo, Paul and more Green.

Wow.  There's so much wrong with this post I don't know where to start. 

Baby plays good defense.  The defense picked up when Baby replaced Krstic.  It was Krstic and KG that David West scored on the most.  And Baby didn't rebound well?  He had 8 rebounds to Jeff Greens 2!

I wonder how the Celtics played great defense and won all those games with Baby at the beginning of the season when Delonte was injured and Green was in OKC?

[Dunn]

They won those games grinding it out when they didn't need to. They will suffer the same faith they did last season putting Baby in the games late. I will tell you how they won those games, Baby would be on the bench during good stretches only for Doc to make it interesting at the end because Shaq either had foul issues or Jermaine wasn't healthy, but with Green that's 3 better choices. You probably don't see the difference in beating a team like the Lakers by 36 than losing by 4. Margin of victory does matter, it's what should of rested the starting five in the 4th quarter the last 2 seasons, but we're not that team anymore since Powe got injured. You assume this team should just continue digging out wins at the end? You're in for a heartbreak again.

[Bankshot]

They won those games grinding it out when they didn't need to. They will suffer the same faith they did last season putting Baby in the games late. I will tell you how they won those games, Baby would be on the bench during good stretches only for Doc to make it interesting at the end because Shaq either had foul issues or Jermaine wasn't healthy, but with Green that's 3 better choices. You probably don't see the difference in beating a team like the Lakers by 36 than losing by 4. Margin of victory does matter, it's what should of rested the starting five in the 4th quarter the last 2 seasons, but we're not that team anymore since Powe got injured. You assume this team should just continue digging out wins at the end? You're in for a heartbreak again.

Baby finished games for Shaq and Perk when he was here.  Funny how the Celtics were successful with Baby closing out games, but you for some reason think that will no longer be? LOL