Blame both Bigs not Rondo

[Dunn]

So another bad loss and it's clear the whole starting unit failed vs Houston but only Rondo dominates the news again. What a complete cop out and easy target they make our point guard when issues are happening with bigs. Can someone explain why Doc has pulled Krstic early and often or why he believes still that Baby is a better option. This is where the problem begins, originated and will continue. Just because most of you dismissed it because Krstic can hit jumpers is plain ignorant. We've seen so many post about blaming Baby for playing losing basketball despite his efforts. Now Krstic has shown exact same lack of interior toughness. Am I wrong or did KG have huge issues playing with European bigs in Minnesota why? You can't bench one stupid big for an even shorter stupid big. What happens is a rout like last night. I've said it before, get the weaklings away from the four all-stars. Doc should insert Green to play more with the 1st unit because you aren't helping him or other four by playing them with these bigs. You can't seriously be inspired by the lack of Baby's and Krstic's interior defense, because they are as soft as I've ever seen two bigs here since Mikki Moore wore green. Even more insane is those same fans who'd count Baby's flopcharges. If you're a smart fan, you'd prefer a rebound or block sending Rondo the other way for easy fastbreak baskets, not stopping the ball so that teams can run Lakers type defense leaving Rondo to beat you in halfcourt. 6th man please, Lamar Odom is laughing too. For a dude who only played a total of 15 minutes, scoring only three points the last time C's won it all, Baby gets an undeserved free ride here. All I'm saying is stop blaming the four players that earned their rings, broke records, and represented this team as all-stars, what just last month? Get the O'neals ready for the playoffs!

[Bankshot]

Baby plays good defense and knows the defensive system.

Rondo's inability to hit a jumper or free throws, play defense and run the offense instead of dribbling out the shot clock has nothing to do with the bigs, imo.

We are not missing Perk, we are missing Shaq.  Shaq will take care of the toughness.  We just need him back.

[Finkelskyhook]

Baby plays good defense and knows the defensive system.

Rondo's inability to hit a jumper or free throws, play defense and run the offense instead of dribbling out the shot clock has nothing to do with the bigs, imo.

We are not missing Perk, we are missing Shaq.  Shaq will take care of the toughness.  We just need him back.

Davis was the only Celtic who showed up last night.

[gpap]

So another bad loss and it's clear the whole starting unit failed vs Houston but only Rondo dominates the news again. What a complete cop out and easy target they make our point guard when issues are happening with bigs. Can someone explain why Doc has pulled Krstic early and often or why he believes still that Baby is a better option. This is where the problem begins, originated and will continue. Just because most of you dismissed it because Krstic can hit jumpers is plain ignorant. We've seen so many post about blaming Baby for playing losing basketball despite his efforts. Now Krstic has shown exact same lack of interior toughness. Am I wrong or did KG have huge issues playing with European bigs in Minnesota why? You can't bench one stupid big for an even shorter stupid big. What happens is a rout like last night. I've said it before, get the weaklings away from the four all-stars. Doc should insert Green to play more with the 1st unit because you aren't helping him or other four by playing them with these bigs. You can't seriously be inspired by the lack of Baby's and Krstic's interior defense, because they are as soft as I've ever seen two bigs here since Mikki Moore wore green. Even more insane is those same fans who'd count Baby's flopcharges. If you're a smart fan, you'd prefer a rebound or block sending Rondo the other way for easy fastbreak baskets, not stopping the ball so that teams can run Lakers type defense leaving Rondo to beat you in halfcourt. 6th man please, Lamar Odom is laughing too. For a dude who only played a total of 15 minutes, scoring only three points the last time C's won it all, Baby gets an undeserved free ride here. All I'm saying is stop blaming the four players that earned their rings, broke records, and represented this team as all-stars, what just last month? Get the O'neals ready for the playoffs!

Not sure how you can NOT hold Rondo accountable. His playing has been atrocious over the last several weeks and that's being nice.

[Eddie20]

So another bad loss and it's clear the whole starting unit failed vs Houston but only Rondo dominates the news again. What a complete cop out and easy target they make our point guard when issues are happening with bigs. Can someone explain why Doc has pulled Krstic early and often or why he believes still that Baby is a better option. This is where the problem begins, originated and will continue. Just because most of you dismissed it because Krstic can hit jumpers is plain ignorant. We've seen so many post about blaming Baby for playing losing basketball despite his efforts. Now Krstic has shown exact same lack of interior toughness. Am I wrong or did KG have huge issues playing with European bigs in Minnesota why? You can't bench one stupid big for an even shorter stupid big. What happens is a rout like last night. I've said it before, get the weaklings away from the four all-stars. Doc should insert Green to play more with the 1st unit because you aren't helping him or other four by playing them with these bigs. You can't seriously be inspired by the lack of Baby's and Krstic's interior defense, because they are as soft as I've ever seen two bigs here since Mikki Moore wore green. Even more insane is those same fans who'd count Baby's flopcharges. If you're a smart fan, you'd prefer a rebound or block sending Rondo the other way for easy fastbreak baskets, not stopping the ball so that teams can run Lakers type defense leaving Rondo to beat you in halfcourt. 6th man please, Lamar Odom is laughing too. For a dude who only played a total of 15 minutes, scoring only three points the last time C's won it all, Baby gets an undeserved free ride here. All I'm saying is stop blaming the four players that earned their rings, broke records, and represented this team as all-stars, what just last month? Get the O'neals ready for the playoffs!

It's Rondo's overall body of work over the last 4 games that is the major issue here. Let's not forget that he's shot 4 of 29 over that time and has taken only 2 FT's ( splitting the pair) over the last 8 games. Rondo is the star of the team, not Krstic or Baby. He is the one that is supposed to lead the way and create easy opportunities for his teammates. He's simply not doing the job lately.  Last night was no different as he was at an awful -22 in the +/- category.  Bottom line, you can't blame your role players for not playing like stars. They are who they are. But at the same time, you can't give your star player a pass for playing like a role player.

[screwedupmaniac]

Baby plays good defense and knows the defensive system.

Rondo's inability to hit a jumper or free throws, play defense and run the offense instead of dribbling out the shot clock has nothing to do with the bigs, imo.

We are not missing Perk, we are missing Shaq.  Shaq will take care of the toughness.  We just need him back.

Davis was the only Celtic who showed up last night.

I didn't see the game last night, but from what I heard, wasn't Davis pretty much the only big who wasn't in foul trouble early on?

[BballTim]

You can't bench one stupid big for an even shorter stupid big.

  This is practically guaranteed to be the funniest line I'll read all day.

[BballTim]

Rondo's inability to hit a jumper or free throws, play defense and run the offense instead of dribbling out the shot clock has nothing to do with the bigs, imo.

  Rondo seemed to be a little more active last night, and his defense (at least man to man) looked good. Hopefully he's on the way back.

[clover]

Baby plays good defense and knows the defensive system.

Rondo's inability to hit a jumper or free throws, play defense and run the offense instead of dribbling out the shot clock has nothing to do with the bigs, imo.

We are not missing Perk, we are missing Shaq.  Shaq will take care of the toughness.  We just need him back.

Davis was the only Celtic who showed up last night.

I didn't see the game last night, but from what I heard, wasn't Davis pretty much the only big who wasn't in foul trouble early on?

I didn't either, but I took it foul trouble was why Curly sat early and played fewer minutes.

[greenpride32]

Curly was in foul trouble.  Did the OP even watch the game???  Not trying to single anyone out or anything, but the post loses a lot of credibility by asking why "Doc kept pulling Curly out". 

Anyways, the C's played horrible last night.  I wouldn't blame it on the bigs only.  We got waxed inside and outside.  It was the HOU guards that really torched us more than the HOU bigs.

[Chris]

Baby plays good defense and knows the defensive system.

Rondo's inability to hit a jumper or free throws, play defense and run the offense instead of dribbling out the shot clock has nothing to do with the bigs, imo.

We are not missing Perk, we are missing Shaq.  Shaq will take care of the toughness.  We just need him back.

Davis was the only Celtic who showed up last night.

Yeah, the guards did not play any better, but the C's big men other than Davis got completely outworked. 

The C's have turned the switch off, and we likely won't see it back on until the playoffs.

[Prof. Clutch]

We're going to be spending the rest of the season blending in new guys so I think everyone should come to expect that we'll see some ugly games before the playoffs start.  Despite that, there's also gonna be some exciting basketball in the meantime while it we watch it all come together.

[dark_lord]

unfortunately, theres plenty of blame to go around

[j804]

Baby plays good defense and knows the defensive system.

Rondo's inability to hit a jumper or free throws, play defense and run the offense instead of dribbling out the shot clock has nothing to do with the bigs, imo.

We are not missing Perk, we are missing Shaq.  Shaq will take care of the toughness.  We just need him back.

Davis was the only Celtic who showed up last night.

Yeah, the guards did not play any better, but the C's big men other than Davis got completely outworked. 

The C's have turned the switch off, and we likely won't see it back on until the playoffs.

When do we just shut down our starters and say to hell with homecourt advantage? Yet on the flip side with Shaq coming back if he ever does aren't we going to need all our starters to log significant time for that cohesion, rhythm etc?

I dont know what to think anymore 

[housecall]

Baby plays good defense and knows the defensive system.

Rondo's inability to hit a jumper or free throws, play defense and run the offense instead of dribbling out the shot clock has nothing to do with the bigs, imo.

We are not missing Perk, we are missing Shaq.  Shaq will take care of the toughness.  We just need him back.

TP,Danny&Doc figured this out awhile ago when the team was winning consistently with Shaq filling the paint...also Shaq wants ring #6 as bad as Kobe does,thats why im not worried about him coming back and playing at a high level.Shaq wants to go out with a bang with a couple more rings under his belt.