Rajon Rondo's Injured Knee

[BudweiserCeltic]

Chris, other than Doc thinks he's been playing well in the last couple of games. And I agree to a certain degree with him.

He's not shooting well though, and needs to do better decisions. But his energy is way up and his defense is much better in contrast to some of the handful of games we've played lately. And if anything, these are the things I look at the most when he's playing.

That's why I don't care much about his poor shooting or assist totals.

[BballTim]

FYI, Doc came out this morning and indicated that Rondo was NOT injured.  This was my feeling after reading KG's quote, where he said that everybody was hurt this time of year.

And by indicating, I am assuming you mean, said very blatently that he is not injured, and he is just playing badly.  When asked about KG's comments, Doc simply said KG was wrong. 

It is interesting.  My guess is the truth is somewhere in between.  This is all purely speculation, but my guess is KG was trying to protect Rondo a bit, and get the press and fans off his back by saying he was injured, and Doc disagreed with doing that.  I think Doc did not like excuses being made for Rondo (whether he is injured or not), and felt that he needs to take responsibility for his play. 

Doc does a lot of teaching with these young guys, and some of it is with things like that.  He knows how important it is for players to feel that pressure to perform, and not make excuses about it. 

My personal guess is that Rondo is being bothered by injuries, just like every other player in the league at this time of year.  The thing is, he is not so hurt that he can't play, and when you are on the floor, being "hurt" cannot be an excuse.  Once you start thinking that it can be an excuse, then you start complaining about how bad your elbow hurts, right as you are getting ready to play one of the biggest series of your career.

  This was in yesterday's herald:

  "Instead, Rajon Rondo [stats]’s play has dropped off dramatically. Part of the reason is injury, specifically his creaky ankles. Part, too, is that he’s simply not playing well."

  And this was in the Globe:

  "After Monday’s 88-79 loss at New Jersey, Rondo sat with his feet soaking in ice, attempting to calm his plantar fasciitis and sprained right ankle while pondering his recent struggles."

  I don't think Rondo's been trying to use injuries as an excuse for his play, and I don't think that plantar fasciitis really falls into the  category of "being bothered by injuries, just like every other player in the league at this time of year". I also think it's a more likely reason for his struggles than laziness/indifference/depression over Perk/lack of confidence/substance abuse or most of the other theories you see here, or the thought that he's always been this bad. I don't recall similar speculation about KG or Paul or Ray when they played poorly for fairly long stretches last year other than old age.

Like I said, its probably somewhere in between.  I wouldn't say he is injured, because injured players don't play.  But I certainly think he is dealing with bumps and bruises (and I would consider plantar fascitis...if he can play through it...in that category). 

But, the way Doc vehemently denied he was injured this morning, to me, it was very clear that he was trying to make a point.  I don't believe for a second that Rondo is 100%, but for some reason, Doc wanted to make it clear that he is simply playing poorly, and its not all just because of an injury.  To me, it sounded like he was just calling Rondo out, to try to get him to play better.

  I didn't hear Doc or KG but if Doc was on weei I'll probably listen to it later today.

[thirstyboots18]

Thanks for the video...doesn't look too promising though, hope it's nothing serious. I wonder why we haven't heard anything about it? It's clearly bothering him.

Would explain his play the past few weeks.

Maybe you are right.  Maybe it is the knee.  I really couldn't tell though...I have been wondering about the plantar fasciitis, and it looks to me like he keeps trying to remove all pressure from the bottom of that right foot.  Sometimes it takes a few weeks of rest to get rid of that, and I don't think he had that much time off.  And, it can become chronic. Or it could be a combination.

[Fafnir]

FYI, Doc came out this morning and indicated that Rondo was NOT injured.  This was my feeling after reading KG's quote, where he said that everybody was hurt this time of year.

And by indicating, I am assuming you mean, said very blatently that he is not injured, and he is just playing badly.  When asked about KG's comments, Doc simply said KG was wrong. 

It is interesting.  My guess is the truth is somewhere in between.  This is all purely speculation, but my guess is KG was trying to protect Rondo a bit, and get the press and fans off his back by saying he was injured, and Doc disagreed with doing that.  I think Doc did not like excuses being made for Rondo (whether he is injured or not), and felt that he needs to take responsibility for his play. 

Doc does a lot of teaching with these young guys, and some of it is with things like that.  He knows how important it is for players to feel that pressure to perform, and not make excuses about it. 

My personal guess is that Rondo is being bothered by injuries, just like every other player in the league at this time of year.  The thing is, he is not so hurt that he can't play, and when you are on the floor, being "hurt" cannot be an excuse.  Once you start thinking that it can be an excuse, then you start complaining about how bad your elbow hurts, right as you are getting ready to play one of the biggest series of your career.

  This was in yesterday's herald:

  "Instead, Rajon Rondo [stats]’s play has dropped off dramatically. Part of the reason is injury, specifically his creaky ankles. Part, too, is that he’s simply not playing well."

  And this was in the Globe:

  "After Monday’s 88-79 loss at New Jersey, Rondo sat with his feet soaking in ice, attempting to calm his plantar fasciitis and sprained right ankle while pondering his recent struggles."

  I don't think Rondo's been trying to use injuries as an excuse for his play, and I don't think that plantar fasciitis really falls into the  category of "being bothered by injuries, just like every other player in the league at this time of year". I also think it's a more likely reason for his struggles than laziness/indifference/depression over Perk/lack of confidence/substance abuse or most of the other theories you see here, or the thought that he's always been this bad. I don't recall similar speculation about KG or Paul or Ray when they played poorly for fairly long stretches last year other than old age.

Like I said, its probably somewhere in between.  I wouldn't say he is injured, because injured players don't play.  But I certainly think he is dealing with bumps and bruises (and I would consider plantar fascitis...if he can play through it...in that category). 

But, the way Doc vehemently denied he was injured this morning, to me, it was very clear that he was trying to make a point.  I don't believe for a second that Rondo is 100%, but for some reason, Doc wanted to make it clear that he is simply playing poorly, and its not all just because of an injury.  To me, it sounded like he was just calling Rondo out, to try to get him to play better.

Every player at the NBA level plays hurt in one way or the other. Most have done so since HS.

[thirstyboots18]

Thanks, BballTim.  I posted too soon, before I read your post.

[Chris]

FYI, Doc came out this morning and indicated that Rondo was NOT injured.  This was my feeling after reading KG's quote, where he said that everybody was hurt this time of year.

And by indicating, I am assuming you mean, said very blatently that he is not injured, and he is just playing badly.  When asked about KG's comments, Doc simply said KG was wrong. 

It is interesting.  My guess is the truth is somewhere in between.  This is all purely speculation, but my guess is KG was trying to protect Rondo a bit, and get the press and fans off his back by saying he was injured, and Doc disagreed with doing that.  I think Doc did not like excuses being made for Rondo (whether he is injured or not), and felt that he needs to take responsibility for his play. 

Doc does a lot of teaching with these young guys, and some of it is with things like that.  He knows how important it is for players to feel that pressure to perform, and not make excuses about it. 

My personal guess is that Rondo is being bothered by injuries, just like every other player in the league at this time of year.  The thing is, he is not so hurt that he can't play, and when you are on the floor, being "hurt" cannot be an excuse.  Once you start thinking that it can be an excuse, then you start complaining about how bad your elbow hurts, right as you are getting ready to play one of the biggest series of your career.

  This was in yesterday's herald:

  "Instead, Rajon Rondo [stats]’s play has dropped off dramatically. Part of the reason is injury, specifically his creaky ankles. Part, too, is that he’s simply not playing well."

  And this was in the Globe:

  "After Monday’s 88-79 loss at New Jersey, Rondo sat with his feet soaking in ice, attempting to calm his plantar fasciitis and sprained right ankle while pondering his recent struggles."

  I don't think Rondo's been trying to use injuries as an excuse for his play, and I don't think that plantar fasciitis really falls into the  category of "being bothered by injuries, just like every other player in the league at this time of year". I also think it's a more likely reason for his struggles than laziness/indifference/depression over Perk/lack of confidence/substance abuse or most of the other theories you see here, or the thought that he's always been this bad. I don't recall similar speculation about KG or Paul or Ray when they played poorly for fairly long stretches last year other than old age.

Like I said, its probably somewhere in between.  I wouldn't say he is injured, because injured players don't play.  But I certainly think he is dealing with bumps and bruises (and I would consider plantar fascitis...if he can play through it...in that category). 

But, the way Doc vehemently denied he was injured this morning, to me, it was very clear that he was trying to make a point.  I don't believe for a second that Rondo is 100%, but for some reason, Doc wanted to make it clear that he is simply playing poorly, and its not all just because of an injury.  To me, it sounded like he was just calling Rondo out, to try to get him to play better.

Every player at the NBA level plays hurt in one way or the other. Most have done so since HS.

Exactly.  Which is why I don't think Doc wants his players talking about it.  Once you start talking about it, then its an easy jump to using it as an excuse.

[Fafnir]

Especially since planar facistis won't go away for the playoffs, not even if they shut him down until then.

[Tai]

FYI, Doc came out this morning and indicated that Rondo was NOT injured.  This was my feeling after reading KG's quote, where he said that everybody was hurt this time of year.

And by indicating, I am assuming you mean, said very blatently that he is not injured, and he is just playing badly.  When asked about KG's comments, Doc simply said KG was wrong. 

It is interesting.  My guess is the truth is somewhere in between.  This is all purely speculation, but my guess is KG was trying to protect Rondo a bit, and get the press and fans off his back by saying he was injured, and Doc disagreed with doing that.  I think Doc did not like excuses being made for Rondo (whether he is injured or not), and felt that he needs to take responsibility for his play. 

Doc does a lot of teaching with these young guys, and some of it is with things like that.  He knows how important it is for players to feel that pressure to perform, and not make excuses about it. 

My personal guess is that Rondo is being bothered by injuries, just like every other player in the league at this time of year.  The thing is, he is not so hurt that he can't play, and when you are on the floor, being "hurt" cannot be an excuse.  Once you start thinking that it can be an excuse, then you start complaining about how bad your elbow hurts, right as you are getting ready to play one of the biggest series of your career.

Hahaha, am I really the only one who caught that?

TP, bro. 

Anyways, whether Rondo really is slightly injured or not, he shouldn't have to log so many minutes at this point of the season. It's good that Delonte is back, since he and even Arroyo can possibly keep Rondo's minutes in the high 20s or low 30s instead of the high 30s or even low 40s. That will definitely make a difference once playoffs starts, when Rondo will probably want (well at least have to) go all out.

[hwangjini_1]

Especially since planar facistis won't go away for the playoffs, not even if they shut him down until then.

since i know zip about this problem, i have a couple of questions to the board.

1. why wont rest help the injury for the playoffs?

2. will rondo worsen it by playing a lot of minutes the rest of the season?

thanks in advance.

[Fafnir]

Especially since planar facistis won't go away for the playoffs, not even if they shut him down until then.

since i know zip about this problem, i have a couple of questions to the board.

1. why wont rest help the injury for the playoffs?

2. will rondo worsen it by playing a lot of minutes the rest of the season?

thanks in advance.

1. Rest definitely helps planar facisitis. In fact rest is pretty much the only treatment, though in extreme cases of an actual rupture I believe they'll do a surgerical procedure.

However usually it takes longer than a month to heal, and you have to rest it pretty much completely. So it'd be very difficult to stay in basketball shape while it gets better. He'd have to run in the pool, that sort of the thing.

2. Yes playing more minutes on it definitely can make it worse. Planar Facisitis gets better and worse with strain versus rest.

[OsirusCeltics]

I've always said thought about this

Rondo has an imbalance in his leg strength. Happened to me like a year ago. My right leg was weaker then my left leg, and cause both of my knees, back, neck, foot, and ankles to hurt. Imbalance causes all of your body to compensate, and even affects the stronger leg

What I did is one legged 90 degree lunges on my weaker leg, after that I had no more problems. My posture improved, no more pain, and even grew a couple inches. I should send Rondo a exercise tape or something lol

[greenpride32]

Doc was interviewed after the MON and WED games and both times he said Rondo "is NOT injured".  Not sure if it's just mind games or what the deal is.  KG said Rondo is playing injured after the WED game; when asked about KG's comment Doc still said he's not.

[clover]

I've always said thought about this

Rondo has an imbalance in his leg strength. Happened to me like a year ago. My right leg was weaker then my left leg, and cause both of my knees, back, neck, foot, and ankles to hurt. Imbalance causes all of your body to compensate, and even affects the stronger leg

What I did is one legged 90 degree lunges on my weaker leg, after that I had no more problems. My posture improved, no more pain, and even grew a couple inches. I should send Rondo a exercise tape or something lol

Just out of curiosity, why do you think that of Rondo?  Thx.

[LarBrd33]

he's playing with a broken heart

[BballTim]

FYI, Doc came out this morning and indicated that Rondo was NOT injured.  This was my feeling after reading KG's quote, where he said that everybody was hurt this time of year.

And by indicating, I am assuming you mean, said very blatently that he is not injured, and he is just playing badly.  When asked about KG's comments, Doc simply said KG was wrong. 

It is interesting.  My guess is the truth is somewhere in between.  This is all purely speculation, but my guess is KG was trying to protect Rondo a bit, and get the press and fans off his back by saying he was injured, and Doc disagreed with doing that.  I think Doc did not like excuses being made for Rondo (whether he is injured or not), and felt that he needs to take responsibility for his play. 

Doc does a lot of teaching with these young guys, and some of it is with things like that.  He knows how important it is for players to feel that pressure to perform, and not make excuses about it. 

My personal guess is that Rondo is being bothered by injuries, just like every other player in the league at this time of year.  The thing is, he is not so hurt that he can't play, and when you are on the floor, being "hurt" cannot be an excuse.  Once you start thinking that it can be an excuse, then you start complaining about how bad your elbow hurts, right as you are getting ready to play one of the biggest series of your career.

  This was in yesterday's herald:

  "Instead, Rajon Rondo [stats]’s play has dropped off dramatically. Part of the reason is injury, specifically his creaky ankles. Part, too, is that he’s simply not playing well."

  And this was in the Globe:

  "After Monday’s 88-79 loss at New Jersey, Rondo sat with his feet soaking in ice, attempting to calm his plantar fasciitis and sprained right ankle while pondering his recent struggles."

  I don't think Rondo's been trying to use injuries as an excuse for his play, and I don't think that plantar fasciitis really falls into the  category of "being bothered by injuries, just like every other player in the league at this time of year". I also think it's a more likely reason for his struggles than laziness/indifference/depression over Perk/lack of confidence/substance abuse or most of the other theories you see here, or the thought that he's always been this bad. I don't recall similar speculation about KG or Paul or Ray when they played poorly for fairly long stretches last year other than old age.

Like I said, its probably somewhere in between.  I wouldn't say he is injured, because injured players don't play.  But I certainly think he is dealing with bumps and bruises (and I would consider plantar fascitis...if he can play through it...in that category). 

But, the way Doc vehemently denied he was injured this morning, to me, it was very clear that he was trying to make a point.  I don't believe for a second that Rondo is 100%, but for some reason, Doc wanted to make it clear that he is simply playing poorly, and its not all just because of an injury.  To me, it sounded like he was just calling Rondo out, to try to get him to play better.

  Danny's on the radio clearing everything up. He said that Rondo's not playing great but he's also not 100%.