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Re: Can we officially say Rondo will never be able to shoot?
« Reply #30 on: March 15, 2011, 01:34:37 AM »

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It was official that Rondo couldn't shoot years ago. I'd rather have Dennis Rodman shooting with the game on the line than Rondo.

Id rather have a Pierce contested fadeaway step back ISO jumper. You know, the play all of us hate when he misses it.

Paul Pierce contested Iso has a way better chance of succeding then a wide open 15 foot Rondo jumper.



I'd rather have Avery Bradley attempt a half-court double teamed bomb shot with the game on the line than have Rondo attempt an open 15 footer.

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Re: Can we officially say Rondo will never be able to shoot?
« Reply #31 on: March 15, 2011, 01:36:48 AM »

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It was official that Rondo couldn't shoot years ago. I'd rather have Dennis Rodman shooting with the game on the line than Rondo.

Id rather have a Pierce contested fadeaway step back ISO jumper. You know, the play all of us hate when he misses it.

Paul Pierce contested Iso has a way better chance of succeding then a wide open 15 foot Rondo jumper.



I'd rather have Avery Bradley attempt a half-court double teamed bomb shot with the game on the line than have Rondo attempt an open 15 footer.

What's important is whether or not you would prefer Big Baby launching threes.

Big Baby three, or Rondo open jumper....hmmm, thats a hard decision and im being serious.

Re: Can we officially say Rondo will never be able to shoot?
« Reply #32 on: March 15, 2011, 01:47:40 AM »

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It was official that Rondo couldn't shoot years ago. I'd rather have Dennis Rodman shooting with the game on the line than Rondo.

Id rather have a Pierce contested fadeaway step back ISO jumper. You know, the play all of us hate when he misses it.

Paul Pierce contested Iso has a way better chance of succeding then a wide open 15 foot Rondo jumper.



I'd rather have Avery Bradley attempt a half-court double teamed bomb shot with the game on the line than have Rondo attempt an open 15 footer.

What's important is whether or not you would prefer Big Baby launching threes.

Big Baby three, or Rondo open jumper....hmmm, thats a hard decision and im being serious.

Well Rondo is shooting 62-158 (39%) on jumpers this year (not including the last 3 or 4 games?) and Davis is shooting 3-16 (18%) on threes for his career.

I'd say it's a pretty easy decision.

Re: Can we officially say Rondo will never be able to shoot?
« Reply #33 on: March 15, 2011, 02:21:22 AM »

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 Dudes, he averages Triple Dips in the Playoffs,

 He's Like A Black Jason Mini Kidd.

 He's p---ed and depressed about his best friend the "Sherminator"  I mean the "Perkinator"

 I say he just gives uo on jumpshots, and shoots a runner evrytime no matter what, he's good at those.

 A lay up or a runner Rondo, those are your options.

Re: Can we officially say Rondo will never be able to shoot?
« Reply #34 on: March 15, 2011, 02:56:59 AM »

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I've been saying this for years.

Someone needs to take Rondo aside and tell him that he won't be expected to shoot anymore.  This nonsense that Rondo somehow has to develop a jumper in order to be a dominant player needs to stop.

Newsflash:  Rondo has never been able to shoot.  His ginormous hands and freakishly long wingspan are what stops him from have a fluid stroke on his shot.  Yet, it is those exact physical traits that have made him a borderline great player.  With no shot, he's been forced to make the other areas of his game that much better.  He's the best passer in the league, the best defender at the PG spot, and one of the best rebounding PGs.

The lack of a shot has also forced Rondo to become nearly unstoppable when he drives to the basket (although finishing layups has been a bit of an issue at times). 

Go back to attacking the basket and being the unique player we've all come to admire.


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Re: Can we officially say Rondo will never be able to shoot?
« Reply #35 on: March 15, 2011, 03:52:17 AM »

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Shooting is all about practice and repetition. I'm sick in tired of this excuse, oh he has a freakishly long wing span and large hands and it makes him difficult to shoot.  I don't buy it.  Not when there are bigs in this league that can step outside and shoot the 3 ball. They have huge hands too.  I can't say for certain, but to me, I honestly wonder if Rondo even works on his jumper.  Shawn Marion has an ugly shot, but it goes in, same with Kevin Martin.  They're both unorthodox shooting forms but they go in because they probably get a lot of shots up in the gym.  Larry Bird shot with his elbow out.  Everyone that has played basketball has told you to keep your elbow in, but if you shoot so much a certain way, you'll hit shots. 

I'm just beginning to think Rondo doesn't put up enough shots during the day. Rondo doesn't even need to have a 3 point shot, he just needs to be able to hit a mid range jump shot, and he struggles to do so on a consistent basis.   

Re: Can we officially say Rondo will never be able to shoot?
« Reply #36 on: March 15, 2011, 06:43:42 AM »

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Rondo will never be an even good shooter.  You can simply look at his foul shooting to know this.  Even the best shooters when in a slump still hit their foul shots.  Look at Shaq.  He brought in coach after coach, spent hour after hour, and just couldn't get better.  That is Rondo.
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Re: Can we officially say Rondo will never be able to shoot?
« Reply #37 on: March 15, 2011, 06:56:20 AM »

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Rondo will never be an even good shooter.  You can simply look at his foul shooting to know this.  Even the best shooters when in a slump still hit their foul shots.  Look at Shaq.  He brought in coach after coach, spent hour after hour, and just couldn't get better.  That is Rondo.


True, but the Big Cactus is actually a better free throw shooter than Rondo.

Re: Can we officially say Rondo will never be able to shoot?
« Reply #38 on: March 15, 2011, 08:07:54 AM »

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Yes, we can say it, and we can even say he's not that good. We can say Rose or even Jennings will eat him up, and we can say he's not a top-3 or even a top-5 PG.

That's what discussion is about, and while I don't agree with all these things, it's fine with me.

Next june we'll be all rooting for the kid to be the player we "know" he can be, and that's a top-3 PG who can do almost everything on the court, and guide the Celtics to another championship.

In my opinion, he'll never be a shooter, but he can shoot. I'm more concerned about free throws than jumpshooting.

Re: Can we officially say Rondo will never be able to shoot?
« Reply #39 on: March 15, 2011, 08:35:41 AM »

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Shooting will never be a strength.  I'd still prefer him to attack the rim and roll the dice at the foul line than to chuck up jumpers, especially at the end of games. 

Lately he's been bricking the layups too, but that's just a fluke.

Re: Can we officially say Rondo will never be able to shoot?
« Reply #40 on: March 15, 2011, 08:40:57 AM »

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It was official that Rondo couldn't shoot years ago. I'd rather have Dennis Rodman shooting with the game on the line than Rondo.

Id rather have a Pierce contested fadeaway step back ISO jumper. You know, the play all of us hate when he misses it.

Paul Pierce contested Iso has a way better chance of succeding then a wide open 15 foot Rondo jumper.



I'd rather have Avery Bradley attempt a half-court double teamed bomb shot with the game on the line than have Rondo attempt an open 15 footer.

What's important is whether or not you would prefer Big Baby launching threes.

Big Baby three, or Rondo open jumper....hmmm, thats a hard decision and im being serious.

Well Rondo is shooting 62-158 (39%) on jumpers this year (not including the last 3 or 4 games?) and Davis is shooting 3-16 (18%) on threes for his career.

I'd say it's a pretty easy decision.

  Not for these guys.

Re: Can we officially say Rondo will never be able to shoot?
« Reply #41 on: March 15, 2011, 09:18:37 AM »

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Shooting will never be a strength.  I'd still prefer him to attack the rim and roll the dice at the foul line than to chuck up jumpers, especially at the end of games. 

Lately he's been bricking the layups too, but that's just a fluke.
He has to take open jumpers or he is a liability on offense because his man can just sag off of him.  Sure it would be nice if he hit them at more then 40%, but he has to keep taking them or he will wreck the offensive flow. 
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Re: Can we officially say Rondo will never be able to shoot?
« Reply #42 on: March 15, 2011, 09:31:37 AM »

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Hello to everybody

I'm a C's fan from Greece and first of all forgive me for my awful English
I usually wake at 3-4 o'clock in the morning to see my favorite BC team.
Probably although I worked for 10 years for the professional BC team Olympiakos BC and I have met players like D.Rivers (we won the european Cup at 1997-Rome) Eddie Johnson (what a player !!!! and a great character) Von Wafer (He played for us at about 2 years ago) Josh Childress (last year) I understand NBA Basketball less than all of you.
But as everyone in this world I have an opinion.
Rondo is a good player with some skills but he will never become a great player if he won't understand what he can really do and were are he's limits.
He looks like he has lost the road and unfortunately (I hope I'm mistaken) there is nobody in the team that is trying to help him.
He's young and (as usually) its very easy to lose your balance
Specially after becoming a millioner and you are not ready to manage it.
Somebody must stop him from destroying his career, somebody must "slap him in the face" so he will understand for witch team he's playing for and what a fortune he has to protect.
He must work and work and work !!!! .... he must put he's head down and listen and learn ... he must ask Ray-Ray how a great career is made and be taught that talent is not always enough.
He must stop doing all this stupid things (snuggling in the Heats after that time out) he must concentrate on the game and only.
He's recently nothing to do with he's 2008 performance because he has started believing that his a top player and he can do anything comes in his mind, otherwise its a matter of time when he will be looking for a job somewhere in Europe’s B' class teams.
Believe me I have seen this happen a lot of times.
It's not his fault ... it’s the teams fault.... the team must protect him ... the team must protect its property ... because this guy has a lot of talent which I hope won't be spoiled.

Re: Can we officially say Rondo will never be able to shoot?
« Reply #43 on: March 15, 2011, 09:43:15 AM »

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Shooting will never be a strength.  I'd still prefer him to attack the rim and roll the dice at the foul line than to chuck up jumpers, especially at the end of games. 

Lately he's been bricking the layups too, but that's just a fluke.
He has to take open jumpers or he is a liability on offense because his man can just sag off of him.  Sure it would be nice if he hit them at more then 40%, but he has to keep taking them or he will wreck the offensive flow. 

  No he doesn't need to take more jumpers. I don't see the logic in the assumption that if we take more of the shots our opponents want us to take that they'll suddenly abandon their scheme to prevent us from taking the shots that they *want* us to take. Right now he takes about as many outside shots as the average pg. He's clearly demonstrated that he's willing to take some of those shots. How have the defenses reacted so far?

Re: Can we officially say Rondo will never be able to shoot?
« Reply #44 on: March 15, 2011, 12:45:31 PM »

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Shooting is all about practice and repetition. I'm sick in tired of this excuse, oh he has a freakishly long wing span and large hands and it makes him difficult to shoot.  I don't buy it.  Not when there are bigs in this league that can step outside and shoot the 3 ball. They have huge hands too.  I can't say for certain, but to me, I honestly wonder if Rondo even works on his jumper.  Shawn Marion has an ugly shot, but it goes in, same with Kevin Martin.  They're both unorthodox shooting forms but they go in because they probably get a lot of shots up in the gym.  Larry Bird shot with his elbow out.  Everyone that has played basketball has told you to keep your elbow in, but if you shoot so much a certain way, you'll hit shots. 

I'm just beginning to think Rondo doesn't put up enough shots during the day. Rondo doesn't even need to have a 3 point shot, he just needs to be able to hit a mid range jump shot, and he struggles to do so on a consistent basis.   
Sorry Scribbles but I disagree completely.  Shooting is a skill just like any other skill.  Sure, it can be developed.  But there is also a large amount of innate ability and it is usually has to happen early.  Contrary to popular opinion, Rondo is trying to pick this up very late.

Look at it this way.  Do you think, if Kendrick Perkins wanted to, he could develop good ball handling skills?  I mean, enough to be able to bring the ball up the court against pressure in the NBA?

Of course not.  He just doesn't have the requisite skill level to do it.  Never did.