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Re: Rondo is Overated
« Reply #45 on: March 09, 2011, 11:26:54 PM »

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That's why you have little faith in doc? cus he doesn't yank rondo? who is he supposed to replace him with these past years? A washed up Marbury? Eddie cant dribble House? Tony Allen? An injured Delonte West? Please, this team hasn't had an adequate option at point guard dont put that on Doc

no I have faith in doc, but I just think he should be a little more strict on Rondo. Not yank him, but bench him if he is playing badly. Thibs does this to Rose. so I don't see how it can hurt.

Re: Rondo is Overated
« Reply #46 on: March 09, 2011, 11:27:18 PM »

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Re: Rondo is Overated
« Reply #47 on: March 09, 2011, 11:36:18 PM »

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That's why you have little faith in doc? cus he doesn't yank rondo? who is he supposed to replace him with these past years? A washed up Marbury? Eddie cant dribble House? Tony Allen? An injured Delonte West? Please, this team hasn't had an adequate option at point guard dont put that on Doc

no I have faith in doc, but I just think he should be a little more strict on Rondo. Not yank him, but bench him if he is playing badly. Thibs does this to Rose. so I don't see how it can hurt.

I do agree that Rondo needs a kick in the butt sometimes. But can we really be sure that Doc doesnt try? I'm not sure either of us can make that call. Remember Rondo's very hardheaded. And again, I'm sure doc would sit rondo if he could, but again, for who? (besides Arroyo who just joined)

Re: Rondo is Overated
« Reply #48 on: March 10, 2011, 12:03:07 AM »

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That's why you have little faith in doc? cus he doesn't yank rondo? who is he supposed to replace him with these past years? A washed up Marbury? Eddie cant dribble House? Tony Allen? An injured Delonte West? Please, this team hasn't had an adequate option at point guard dont put that on Doc

no I have faith in doc, but I just think he should be a little more strict on Rondo. Not yank him, but bench him if he is playing badly. Thibs does this to Rose. so I don't see how it can hurt.

I do agree that Rondo needs a kick in the butt sometimes. But can we really be sure that Doc doesnt try? I'm not sure either of us can make that call. Remember Rondo's very hardheaded. And again, I'm sure doc would sit rondo if he could, but again, for who? (besides Arroyo who just joined)

yeah thats true. Rondo is hardheaded. I know Doc tries. I didn't want to act like he didn't. Hopefully Arroy keeps it up. Not to replace (cause that wouldnt happen) but to push some fire under Rondo, hopefully.

Re: Rondo is Overated
« Reply #49 on: March 10, 2011, 02:31:46 AM »

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Re: Rondo is Overated
« Reply #50 on: March 10, 2011, 02:48:08 AM »

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Rondo is just an average point guard. His game looks a lot better than it is because he is playing with three hall of famers (just like Perk was). Rondo gets a lot of love for a few reasons: People like his name--Rondo! He has the ability to make flashy passes. He is a good looking guy.

The idea that Rondo is a top point guard is really just a media created myth. In no specific order, Rose, Williams, Paul, Wall, and Westbrook are all of the younger guys who are clearly better than Rondo. Of the older guys, you could argue that Parker, Nash, and Kidd are still presently better than Rondo.

Rondo is more comparable to the level of Brandon Jennings or Stephen Curry. He is no where near the level of Rose, Williams, Paul, Wall, or Westbrook. He just isn't.


Rondo plays no defense! Seriously. He gets two and a half steals a game, but he lets his man blow by him 95% of the time.

Rondo is a bad floor general. He holds onto the ball for way too long, this has been worse recently but it has been an ongoing trend all season, and passes it with clear intent to "pile up the assists."

Rondo turns down layups to get assists--do I even need to elaborate on this?

Rondo doesn't attack the basket because he cannot make free throws.


Rondo doesn't play hard for the full game. I can't remember a "star" player to take off as many plays as Rondo seems to. Pierce said in an interview, at the half of an ABC game last year, when they were interviewing The Big 3 about Rondo, "That Rondo has to learn that, to be a star, you have to bring it every night."


Rondo is still an unbelievably flawed player, who has no offensive game to speak of because he's too scared to do the one thing he should be able to (attack the basket).

So in conclusion, yes, Rondo is overrated. There are probably eight point guards in the league clearly better than him. Then there is the next crop that Rondo belongs in.

Re: Rondo is Overated
« Reply #51 on: March 10, 2011, 03:01:53 AM »

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Sorry, but anyone who can't see how incredibly talented this kid is as a PG, leading the entire NBA in assists and steals, (for all positions), 2nd among PGs in field-goal percentage and minutes, and 5th among all PGs in double-doubles, (as well as how highly his team-mates think of him, and I personally take the opinions of Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett, and Ray Allen very seriously), either has an irrational dislike for the guy, or does not have their eyes open. ;)
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Re: Rondo is Overated
« Reply #52 on: March 10, 2011, 03:04:53 AM »

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The idea that Rondo is a top point guard is really just a media created myth. In no specific order, Rose, Williams, Paul, Wall, and Westbrook are all of the younger guys who are clearly better than Rondo.

Oh please. I don't even consider Westbrook a point guard. He is a combo guard at best. I would hate if Rondo played like that. Dude has no court vision and his basketball IQ is suspect. Just jacks up a bunch of shots so he looks like a better scorer than he actually is.
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Re: Rondo is Overated
« Reply #53 on: March 10, 2011, 03:06:44 AM »

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Re: Rondo is Overated
« Reply #54 on: March 10, 2011, 03:21:27 AM »

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The idea that Rondo is a top point guard is really just a media created myth. In no specific order, Rose, Williams, Paul, Wall, and Westbrook are all of the younger guys who are clearly better than Rondo.

Oh please. I don't even consider Westbrook a point guard. He is a combo guard at best. I would hate if Rondo played like that. Dude has no court vision and his basketball IQ is suspect. Just jacks up a bunch of shots so he looks like a better scorer than he actually is.



I never said Westbrook would be the better fit for the Celtics. But he is clearly the better overall talent.

Re: Rondo is Overated
« Reply #55 on: March 10, 2011, 03:27:03 AM »

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The idea that Rondo is a top point guard is really just a media created myth. In no specific order, Rose, Williams, Paul, Wall, and Westbrook are all of the younger guys who are clearly better than Rondo.

Oh please. I don't even consider Westbrook a point guard. He is a combo guard at best. I would hate if Rondo played like that. Dude has no court vision and his basketball IQ is suspect. Just jacks up a bunch of shots so he looks like a better scorer than he actually is.



I never said Westbrook would be the better fit for the Celtics. But he is clearly the better overall talent.

I don't agree and I like Westbrook. But, he is not a point guard. Rondo is the better point guard. Westbrook is a shooting guard trapped in a point guards body. It is not fair to compare the two.

Re: Rondo is Overated
« Reply #56 on: March 10, 2011, 03:30:59 AM »

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Sorry, but anyone who can't see how incredibly talented this kid is as a PG, leading the entire NBA in assists and steals, (for all positions), 2nd among PGs in field-goal percentage and minutes, and 5th among all PGs in double-doubles, (as well as how highly his team-mates think of him, and I personally take the opinions of Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett, and Ray Allen very seriously), either has an irrational dislike for the guy, or does not have their eyes open. ;)


Leading the league in assists: He is passing the three future hall of famers who are all shooting better than 50%.

Leading the league in steals: That is because he gambles on defense all the time, which isn't a good thing. There should be a stat called, "gambling for a steal, getting beat, making your team defense adjust, then ultimately get beat on wide open shot."

2nd among PGs in field goal percentage and minutes: Being second in field goal percentage isn't necessarily a good thing for Rondo. He shoots such a high percentage because he only takes, and usually converts wide open layups. He is an offensive liability, and he clearly hurts his team against good defensive teams (Lakers in the finals).

Minutes: That is what it is. He has played a lot of minutes because the Celtics haven't had an adequate backup all season.

5th among PGs in double-doubles: Playing with three future hall of famers, it's amazing that he's only 5th on the list.

Praise of his teammates: Paul Pierce has said in an interview about Rondo, "In order to be a star, you have to bring it every night."

Re: Rondo is Overated
« Reply #57 on: March 10, 2011, 03:53:41 AM »

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Sorry, but anyone who can't see how incredibly talented this kid is as a PG, leading the entire NBA in assists and steals, (for all positions), 2nd among PGs in field-goal percentage and minutes, and 5th among all PGs in double-doubles, (as well as how highly his team-mates think of him, and I personally take the opinions of Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett, and Ray Allen very seriously), either has an irrational dislike for the guy, or does not have their eyes open. ;)


Leading the league in assists: He is passing the three future hall of famers who are all shooting better than 50%.

Leading the league in steals: That is because he gambles on defense all the time, which isn't a good thing. There should be a stat called, "gambling for a steal, getting beat, making your team defense adjust, then ultimately get beat on wide open shot."

2nd among PGs in field goal percentage and minutes: Being second in field goal percentage isn't necessarily a good thing for Rondo. He shoots such a high percentage because he only takes, and usually converts wide open layups. He is an offensive liability, and he clearly hurts his team against good defensive teams (Lakers in the finals).

Minutes: That is what it is. He has played a lot of minutes because the Celtics haven't had an adequate backup all season.

5th among PGs in double-doubles: Playing with three future hall of famers, it's amazing that he's only 5th on the list.

Praise of his teammates: Paul Pierce has said in an interview about Rondo, "In order to be a star, you have to bring it every night."

Wow ... talk about rationalizing. The "three future Hall-of-Famers" wouldn't be shooting better than 50% if they didn't have a very talented, very unselfish Point Guard who was feeding them the ball exactly when and where they need it.

A PG is the most vital core part of any team, and if he doesn't see the entire court well and coordinate the movement of the ball, nobody else on that team is going to be consistently successful.

Ask any of the Big Three why this team is such a successful and cohesive unti, and they'll tell you it's the unselfishness and talent of their Point Guard, Rajon Rondo. People see what they want to see.

I'll agree to disagree on this one ... on every point.
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Re: Rondo is Overated
« Reply #58 on: March 10, 2011, 04:01:01 AM »

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I just want to be first in the East and a game ahead of the Lakers when the Playoffs get here. As far as Rondo goes I think he needs some rest to recharge the batteries. He will be alright when he gets some help.

Rondo isnt overrated he is just misunderstood

Re: Rondo is Overated
« Reply #59 on: March 10, 2011, 04:25:44 AM »

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Not overrated but he sure can be frustrating as hell.