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Stop it.

Here are pg/sg free agents that are better options than trading for Mike Bibby:

Brevin Knight
Steve Blake
Chauncey Billups
Mickael Pietrus
Bonzi Wells
Luke Walton
Jason Kapono
Charlie Bell
Vince Carter
Desmond Mason
Grant Hill
Keyon Dooling
Rashard Lewis
Meatball Sub
Leather Sofa
Diana Taurasi
Pile of wet phone books

Having the ball in your hands the whole time don't make you a point gaurd, just a selfish shooting gaurd. We don't need another streak shooting gaurd. Not needed. Not now, not ever. Never.

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Stop it.

Here are pg/sg free agents that are better options than trading for Mike Bibby:

Brevin Knight
Steve Blake
Chauncey Billups-x
Mickael Pietrus-x
Bonzi Wells
Luke Walton-x
Jason Kapono-x
Charlie Bell
Vince Carter-x
Desmond Mason-x
Grant Hill-x
Keyon Dooling
Rashard Lewis-x
Meatball Sub-x
Leather Sofa-x
Diana Taurasi-x
Pile of wet phone books-x

Having the ball in your hands the whole time don't make you a point gaurd, just a selfish shooting gaurd. We don't need another streak shooting gaurd. Not needed. Not now, not ever. Never.

How is this manlaw?

Also, those players that I marked with an "-x" next to their name are not point guards or shooting guards that the Celtics fan sign, whether it's because of position, money, or not being in the NBA.

That leaves Bell, Knight, Blake and Wells.

You can take one of them, I'll take Bibby.

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« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2007, 05:04:38 PM »

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Stop it.

Here are pg/sg free agents that are better options than trading for Mike Bibby:

Brevin Knight
Steve Blake
Chauncey Billups-x
Mickael Pietrus-x
Bonzi Wells
Luke Walton-x
Jason Kapono-x
Charlie Bell
Vince Carter-x
Desmond Mason-x
Grant Hill-x
Keyon Dooling
Rashard Lewis-x
Meatball Sub-x
Leather Sofa-x
Diana Taurasi-x
Pile of wet phone books-x

Having the ball in your hands the whole time don't make you a point gaurd, just a selfish shooting gaurd. We don't need another streak shooting gaurd. Not needed. Not now, not ever. Never.

How is this manlaw?

Also, those players that I marked with an "-x" next to their name are not point guards or shooting guards that the Celtics fan sign, whether it's because of position, money, or not being in the NBA.

That leaves Bell, Knight, Blake and Wells.

You can take one of them, I'll take Bibby.

Well you were dead on with pile of wet phone books and meatball sub, but I'm pretty sure Chauncey Billups is a pg, a free agent next year, and is in the nba. I'm pretty sure all of the players I listed have sg viability in fantasy bball/real world besides for rashard lewis and luke walton.

But I suppose I cannot make Bibby going to the Celtics bad idea a manlaw on my own. Consider it a manlaw proposal.

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Yeah, we really don't need all-star caliber veteran playoff experienced players. Especially at the point guard position. I expect Rajon "I shoot like a jellyfish" Rondo and Sebastian "I carry a gun and all of Brooklyn on my shoulders" Telfair to lead the way triumphantly.
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Stop it.

Here are pg/sg free agents that are better options than trading for Mike Bibby:

Brevin Knight
Steve Blake
Chauncey Billups-x
Mickael Pietrus-x
Bonzi Wells
Luke Walton-x
Jason Kapono-x
Charlie Bell
Vince Carter-x
Desmond Mason-x
Grant Hill-x
Keyon Dooling
Rashard Lewis-x
Meatball Sub-x
Leather Sofa-x
Diana Taurasi-x
Pile of wet phone books-x

Having the ball in your hands the whole time don't make you a point gaurd, just a selfish shooting gaurd. We don't need another streak shooting gaurd. Not needed. Not now, not ever. Never.

How is this manlaw?

Also, those players that I marked with an "-x" next to their name are not point guards or shooting guards that the Celtics fan sign, whether it's because of position, money, or not being in the NBA.

That leaves Bell, Knight, Blake and Wells.

You can take one of them, I'll take Bibby.

Well you were dead on with pile of wet phone books and meatball sub, but I'm pretty sure Chauncey Billups is a pg, a free agent next year, and is in the nba. I'm pretty sure all of the players I listed have sg viability in fantasy bball/real world besides for rashard lewis and luke walton.

But I suppose I cannot make Bibby going to the Celtics bad idea a manlaw on my own. Consider it a manlaw proposal.

Billups is way out of our price range. I should have thrown "price" in there as an additional reason.

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Yeah, we really don't need all-star caliber veteran playoff experienced players. Especially at the point guard position. I expect Rajon "I shoot like a jellyfish" Rondo and Sebastian "I carry a gun and all of Brooklyn on my shoulders" Telfair to lead the way triumphantly.

Yeah because that's what I was really getting at, how telfair and rondo were better than Bibby. Thanks for reading my post. Besides the fact, Bibby is not an Allstar. He was. But so was Antione Walker. Doesn't mean either will help the team.

Billups is way out of our price range. I should have thrown "price" in there as an additional reason.

Well you should have "looked" at how much more money Bibby is making than Billups. Bibby was payed 12,500,000 last year, this year he got 13,500,000, and next year he'll get 14,500,000. Meanwhile... Billups is worth 6,819,000. I'd rather pay Billups 10 mill a year than Bibby 14.

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Yeah, we really don't need all-star caliber veteran playoff experienced players. Especially at the point guard position. I expect Rajon "I shoot like a jellyfish" Rondo and Sebastian "I carry a gun and all of Brooklyn on my shoulders" Telfair to lead the way triumphantly.

Yeah because that's what I was really getting at, how telfair and rondo were better than Bibby. Thanks for reading my post. Besides the fact, Bibby is not an Allstar. He was. But so was Antione Walker. Doesn't mean either will help the team.

Billups is way out of our price range. I should have thrown "price" in there as an additional reason.

Well you should have "looked" at how much more money Bibby is making than Billups. Bibby was payed 12,500,000 last year, this year he got 13,500,000, and next year he'll get 14,500,000. Meanwhile... Billups is worth 6,819,000. I'd rather pay Billups 10 mill a year than Bibby 14.


It would be a good idea if we gave up Wally for Bibby.  Same bloated contract, bigger positional need.  None of the players you mentioned would allow us to trade Wally.  I'm going to call for an overrule of your man law on these conditions.
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It would be a good idea if we gave up Wally for Bibby.  Same bloated contract, bigger positional need.  None of the players you mentioned would allow us to trade Wally.  I'm going to call for an overrule of your man law on these conditions.

I'd agree with you 100 percent if Bibby didn't have such a string of poor seasons. And because of Wally's injuries it would make sense to have someone healthier come in to bring scoring off the bench or filling in the pg spot. With paul pierce, tony allen and al jefferson, I think the celtics would benifit with a gaurd geared towards passing.

With that said, I don't think Bibby really brings any "positional need". Because A. you dont have to spend that much to have scoring off of the bench, and B we can find a better way to get rid of Wally.

And speaking of getting rid of Wally, why trade a guy who shoots a career.404 from the 3 (.415 last season, .400 the season before) and a .862 from the free throw line for a guy that shot .360 from the three and .830 from the line? Is it really an upgrade? I don't think so.

and no player on the list disallows the team to trade a player.

overrule, overruled.
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I agree, I don't want Bibby in Boston at all. He's a scoring guard, and if he were 3-4 inches taller, he'd be a 2-guard. We need a reliable veteran point guard that can run the offense well, someone we can count on, and someone that can teach Rondo a few things until he's truly ready (which could be very soon). I want a guy like Brevin Knight, who can play solid basketball on both ends of the floor, run the offense, and teach. We just need someone like Knight for 1-2 years until Rondo is ready to rock n roll.

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I'd agree with you 100 percent if Bibby didn't have such a string of poor seasons. And because of Wally's injuries it would make sense to have someone healthier come in to bring scoring off the bench or filling in the pg spot. With paul pierce, tony allen and al jefferson, I think the celtics would benifit with a gaurd geared towards passing.

With that said, I don't think Bibby really brings any "positional need". Because A. you dont have to spend that much to have scoring off of the bench, and B we can find a better way to get rid of Wally.

And speaking of getting rid of Wally, why trade a guy who shoots a career.404 from the 3 (.415 last season, .400 the season before) and a .862 from the free throw line for a guy that shot .360 from the three and .830 from the line? Is it really an upgrade? I don't think so.


overrule, overruled.

The only way I'd get Bibby is for Wally and if he backs Rondo up.  However, I have to call you on the following BS you sprouted:

1) Please propose a realistic trade with Wally that's better than getting Bibby.  I'd like to see it.

2) Why would we not trade a backup who in the past three years averaged 17 points, 2.5 assists, less than 4 boards, half a steal with serious injuries, for an injury free pg with 19 points, 5.5 assists, 3.5 rebounds, and more than one steal? 

BTW Bibby shot 39% from three in 06, a measley .02 lower than Wally, and has compensated for his .02 gap in free throw shooting by getting to the line 100 times more than Wally each of the last three seasons.

3) If Bibby had such a "string of poor seasons," why did he outscore, outpass, outsteal, and outdefend Wally on a better team while getting to the line more and shooting only a bit worse than Wally?  WOW, Wally must be having a string of dogpoop seasons.

Please address each of these concerns.

Overruled overrule overruled.
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There is NO way that if Doc Rivers has Rondo and Bibby on his roster that Bibby is coming off the bench.  The reason against getting Bibby is that Rondo would get relegated to 15 mins a game of playing time. If we still had Gary (got holes in the glove 6 yrs ago) Payton, he's still be starting and pl,aying 30+ mins.

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There is NO way that if Doc Rivers has Rondo and Bibby on his roster that Bibby is coming off the bench.  The reason against getting Bibby is that Rondo would get relegated to 15 mins a game of playing time. If we still had Gary (got holes in the glove 6 yrs ago) Payton, he's still be starting and pl,aying 30+ mins.

Danny can either insist, since Doc has done whatever we've wanted, or fire his butt.  Rondo is Danny's pet, and Bibby's playmaking and scoring would be more valuable with the second unit because we need defense to start and don't need the scoring with paul, al, and our pick.  It makes more sense for Bibby to backup and I have to believe that someone in charge could make that happen, given that Doc's coached Davis, Blount, and done all kinds of vassalistic crap.

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Stop it.

Here are pg/sg free agents that are better options than trading for Mike Bibby:

Brevin Knight
Steve Blake
Chauncey Billups-x
Mickael Pietrus-x
Bonzi Wells
Luke Walton-x
Jason Kapono-x
Charlie Bell
Vince Carter-x
Desmond Mason-x
Grant Hill-x
Keyon Dooling
Rashard Lewis-x
Meatball Sub-x
Leather Sofa-x
Diana Taurasi-x
Pile of wet phone books-x

Having the ball in your hands the whole time don't make you a point gaurd, just a selfish shooting gaurd. We don't need another streak shooting gaurd. Not needed. Not now, not ever. Never.

How is this manlaw?

Also, those players that I marked with an "-x" next to their name are not point guards or shooting guards that the Celtics fan sign, whether it's because of position, money, or not being in the NBA.

That leaves Bell, Knight, Blake and Wells.

You can take one of them, I'll take Bibby.

Well you were dead on with pile of wet phone books and meatball sub, but I'm pretty sure Chauncey Billups is a pg, a free agent next year, and is in the nba. I'm pretty sure all of the players I listed have sg viability in fantasy bball/real world besides for rashard lewis and luke walton.

But I suppose I cannot make Bibby going to the Celtics bad idea a manlaw on my own. Consider it a manlaw proposal.

Billups is way out of our price range. I should have thrown "price" in there as an additional reason.

Well, you did list "money", so I think you had yourself covered.

I don't want Bibby, though.  From everything I read, both the Kings and Kings fans are praying that he opts out of his contract.  He's really lost a couple of steps.

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