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Re: Man Law: Bibby going to the Celtics will never be a good idea.
« Reply #15 on: May 19, 2007, 08:55:09 PM »

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Stop it.

Here are pg/sg free agents that are better options than trading for Mike Bibby:

Brevin Knight
Steve Blake
Chauncey Billups-x
Mickael Pietrus-x
Bonzi Wells
Luke Walton-x
Jason Kapono-x
Charlie Bell
Vince Carter-x
Desmond Mason-x
Grant Hill-x
Keyon Dooling
Rashard Lewis-x
Meatball Sub-x
Leather Sofa-x
Diana Taurasi-x
Pile of wet phone books-x

Having the ball in your hands the whole time don't make you a point gaurd, just a selfish shooting gaurd. We don't need another streak shooting gaurd. Not needed. Not now, not ever. Never.

How is this manlaw?

Also, those players that I marked with an "-x" next to their name are not point guards or shooting guards that the Celtics fan sign, whether it's because of position, money, or not being in the NBA.

That leaves Bell, Knight, Blake and Wells.

You can take one of them, I'll take Bibby.

Well you were dead on with pile of wet phone books and meatball sub, but I'm pretty sure Chauncey Billups is a pg, a free agent next year, and is in the nba. I'm pretty sure all of the players I listed have sg viability in fantasy bball/real world besides for rashard lewis and luke walton.

But I suppose I cannot make Bibby going to the Celtics bad idea a manlaw on my own. Consider it a manlaw proposal.

Billups is way out of our price range. I should have thrown "price" in there as an additional reason.

Well, you did list "money", so I think you had yourself covered.

I don't want Bibby, though.  From everything I read, both the Kings and Kings fans are praying that he opts out of his contract.  He's really lost a couple of steps.

Come on Roy, what about for Wally straight up if you know he'll be Rondo's backup.
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Re: Man Law: Bibby going to the Celtics will never be a good idea.
« Reply #16 on: May 19, 2007, 09:00:40 PM »

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Come on Roy, what about for Wally straight up if you know he'll be Rondo's backup.

Sacramento wouldn't do that.  Even though they want him gone, I severely doubt they're going to take back our chronically injured, one-dimensional SF when their two best players currently play the swing positions.

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Re: Man Law: Bibby going to the Celtics will never be a good idea.
« Reply #17 on: May 19, 2007, 09:04:06 PM »

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lol at all the people takining for granted that sacramento would even consider that trade. all the reasons you post for us making that trade are reasons for sacramento not to make the trade, nobody wants a 2/3 who cant guard anyone and has knee,ankle and other injuries,on both legs might i add.

in conclusion; the celtics cant get bibby for wally, so the issue is moot, but as for not taking bibby under other circumstances, then yes with his current contract he is of limits for the celtics.

man law aproved mike bibby may never be a member of the boston celtics well under his current contract.

Re: Man Law: Bibby going to the Celtics will never be a good idea.
« Reply #18 on: May 19, 2007, 09:16:18 PM »

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They probably wouldn't do it, I agree. If Artest goes, they have a hole at sf around Bibby, Salmons, Martin, Thomas, Miller.  If they won't take Wally I don't want Bibby but it's not THAT unrealistic if Artest is dealt, as they like Salmons at point and Wally would fill the SF void.
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Re: Man Law: Bibby going to the Celtics will never be a good idea.
« Reply #19 on: May 19, 2007, 09:49:43 PM »

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I'd agree with you 100 percent if Bibby didn't have such a string of poor seasons. And because of Wally's injuries it would make sense to have someone healthier come in to bring scoring off the bench or filling in the pg spot. With paul pierce, tony allen and al jefferson, I think the celtics would benifit with a gaurd geared towards passing.

With that said, I don't think Bibby really brings any "positional need". Because A. you dont have to spend that much to have scoring off of the bench, and B we can find a better way to get rid of Wally.

And speaking of getting rid of Wally, why trade a guy who shoots a career.404 from the 3 (.415 last season, .400 the season before) and a .862 from the free throw line for a guy that shot .360 from the three and .830 from the line? Is it really an upgrade? I don't think so.


overrule, overruled.

The only way I'd get Bibby is for Wally and if he backs Rondo up.  However, I have to call you on the following BS you sprouted:

1) Please propose a realistic trade with Wally that's better than getting Bibby.  I'd like to see it.

2) Why would we not trade a backup who in the past three years averaged 17 points, 2.5 assists, less than 4 boards, half a steal with serious injuries, for an injury free pg with 19 points, 5.5 assists, 3.5 rebounds, and more than one steal? 

BTW Bibby shot 39% from three in 06, a measley .02 lower than Wally, and has compensated for his .02 gap in free throw shooting by getting to the line 100 times more than Wally each of the last three seasons.

3) If Bibby had such a "string of poor seasons," why did he outscore, outpass, outsteal, and outdefend Wally on a better team while getting to the line more and shooting only a bit worse than Wally?  WOW, Wally must be having a string of dogpoop seasons.

Please address each of these concerns.

Overruled overrule overruled.

Thanks for calling out my BS,

1. no. if you do not think there is a more realistic trade then wally for bibby straight up than there really is no point trying to think one up for your benifit.

2. If he's so bad, than why would sac take him if bibby is so good?

3. Wally aint a great defender, but as a role player, shooting the three, keeping the floor spread and creating his own offense when needed, he's pretty [dang] good. AND he's got the numbers to prove where he IS good.
- you know why bibby has a lot of numbers at the free throw line? because he has the ball the whole time. know who goes to the line on our team? pierce, allen, jefferson. We don't need someone to take the ball out of there hands. and you know what, bibby out passes Wally by a wopping 2 assists! For the people we already have on our team, i'd rather have delonte than bibby.


They probably wouldn't do it, I agree. If Artest goes, they have a hole at sf around Bibby, Salmons, Martin, Thomas, Miller.  If they won't take Wally I don't want Bibby but it's not THAT unrealistic if Artest is dealt, as they like Salmons at point and Wally would fill the SF void.

Oh but you wouldnt want Bibby unless we couldnt get rid of wally. So it's just that wally is that bad and you'd rather take on Bibby's play and contract instead. Ok, well not that Im going to call out your BS or anything...

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Re: Man Law: Bibby going to the Celtics will never be a good idea.
« Reply #20 on: May 19, 2007, 09:56:57 PM »

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The amount it would cost to trade for Bibby and how he isn't a good fit for Pierce, Jefferson and (hopefully) Oden or Durrant; I don't think he is the player the Celtics should trade for. 

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« Reply #21 on: May 19, 2007, 10:58:19 PM »

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The amount it would cost to trade for Bibby and how he isn't a good fit for Pierce, Jefferson and (hopefully) Oden or Durrant; I don't think he is the player the Celtics should trade for. 

I bet Sacto would look to get back a guy like DWest to take Bibby's place.

Re: Man Law: Bibby going to the Celtics will never be a good idea.
« Reply #22 on: May 19, 2007, 11:48:20 PM »

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Alright, I'm pretty much calling this an official Man Law. I will reffer to any future Bibby trade ideas to the link of this thread and the following;


Bibby going to the Celtics will never be a good idea.

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Re: Man Law: Bibby going to the Celtics will never be a good idea.
« Reply #23 on: May 20, 2007, 12:05:21 AM »

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Stop it.

Here are pg/sg free agents that are better options than trading for Mike Bibby:

Brevin Knight
Steve Blake
Chauncey Billups
Mickael Pietrus
Bonzi Wells
Luke Walton
Jason Kapono
Charlie Bell
Vince Carter
Desmond Mason
Grant Hill
Keyon Dooling
Rashard Lewis
Meatball Sub
Leather Sofa
Diana Taurasi
Pile of wet phone books

Having the ball in your hands the whole time don't make you a point gaurd, just a selfish shooting gaurd. We don't need another streak shooting gaurd. Not needed. Not now, not ever. Never.


now, i know part of it is a joke, (meatball sub, on down...) but, the top part?  luke walton?  bonzi, i am too fat and lazy to actually play, wells? and others like billups, and carter who have as great a chance of playing for the c's as i do?

cmon...

Re: Man Law: Bibby going to the Celtics will never be a good idea.
« Reply #24 on: May 20, 2007, 12:36:48 AM »

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I'm just saying they're available. Can't even really say I'd want whince Carter on my team anyways. I think for the right price a lot of them are availabl. Truthfully we don't really have enough information to know either way. I don't atleast. But I don't think Billups would be impossible to get, especially if we get a good center in the draft. Not that I'm counting on us getting him.

For a lot less money we could get Brevin Knight whose a vet to monitor Rondo and share the pg spot with him. The main point I was trying to get at with the joke about taking a meatball sub over bibby, is that bibby isnt worth the price. Personally I think he's garbage but I'll stick with expensive.

I'm just saying if we make a move I'd rather it not be Bibby, and here's a list of free agents for next year.

Re: Man Law: Bibby going to the Celtics will never be a good idea.
« Reply #25 on: May 20, 2007, 10:44:41 AM »

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Alright, I'm pretty much calling this an official Man Law. I will reffer to any future Bibby trade ideas to the link of this thread and the following;


Bibby going to the Celtics will never be a good idea.

Man Law -5/19/07



Instead of just posting manlaw BS, why not give us a valid reason why he wouldn't help the Celts.

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« Reply #26 on: May 20, 2007, 12:53:42 PM »

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Alright, I'm pretty much calling this an official Man Law. I will reffer to any future Bibby trade ideas to the link of this thread and the following;


Bibby going to the Celtics will never be a good idea.

Man Law -5/19/07



Instead of just posting manlaw BS, why not give us a valid reason why he wouldn't help the Celts.

Because it takes a lot of explaining for some people and I'd rather just point back to this thread than start a new debate with another noob.

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« Reply #27 on: May 20, 2007, 03:05:11 PM »

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Alright, I'm pretty much calling this an official Man Law. I will reffer to any future Bibby trade ideas to the link of this thread and the following;


Bibby going to the Celtics will never be a good idea.

Man Law -5/19/07


Instead of just posting manlaw BS, why not give us a valid reason why he wouldn't help the Celts.

Because it takes a lot of explaining for some people and I'd rather just point back to this thread than start a new debate with another noob.

Uh, you're kind of a noob yourself.  The only way for the Celtics to get Bibby anyway is to trade Wally and another backup, so if that doesn't happen, we won't be getting Bibby anyway and there's nothing to worry about.

EDIT:  Still waiting for the "better way to trade wally" plan you announced and then couldn;t come up with...
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« Reply #28 on: May 20, 2007, 03:30:11 PM »

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Alright, I'm pretty much calling this an official Man Law. I will reffer to any future Bibby trade ideas to the link of this thread and the following;


Bibby going to the Celtics will never be a good idea.

Man Law -5/19/07


Instead of just posting manlaw BS, why not give us a valid reason why he wouldn't help the Celts.

Because it takes a lot of explaining for some people and I'd rather just point back to this thread than start a new debate with another noob.

Uh, you're kind of a noob yourself.  The only way for the Celtics to get Bibby anyway is to trade Wally and another backup, so if that doesn't happen, we won't be getting Bibby anyway and there's nothing to worry about.

EDIT:  Still waiting for the "better way to trade wally" plan you announced and then couldn;t come up with...

Ok dude. When I get back from work. Prepare to get served.

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« Reply #29 on: May 20, 2007, 07:12:39 PM »

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Here's the thing:  Wally has two years on his contract, Bibby would only have the one.  While it's true that Wally, one dimensionally, is better than Bibby one dimensionally - they clearly play different positions. 

We have a glut at Wally's position of extremely talented players.  This is especially so if we get a big man in the draft.  I think it's clear that Pierce is better than Wally to a greater degree than Rondo is better than Bibby.

Bibby bringing up the ball to the halfcourt, not turning it over, and getting it to Pierce is a reasonable way to use a PG - and it would only be for a year.  Let's face it, part of playing in the NBA is getting the call.  Bibby is a veteran, and might be able to better protect the ball because players would leave him a little more room.

Granted, there are a lot of things not to like about Bibby (no one has yet mentioned the stupid headband - though a lot of other things have been mentioned already).  But I think having a crap contract at the point is better for the C's at this stage in the game - arguably - than the crap contract at SF...

...Especially if the C's can also get rid of Telfair.  I would change my opinion on Danny Ainge if he could get that done.