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Miami sizzle
« on: March 01, 2011, 11:47:25 AM »

Offline CNYCeltsfan

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The heat may have a good record because they destroy weaker opponents, but against teams with winning records they are 13-14. More over they are 5-11 in games decided by 5 points or less. And vs. the East contenders (Boston, Chicago, Orlando) they are 1-6! That one win coming against Orlando in the first week of the season pre-arenas trade. In fact they only contender they have a winning record against is LA 1-0. They are 0-2 vs Dallas, and yet to play SA.

The next 10 games they face opponents with records averaging out to .682. If they continue to sputter you have to wonder if they will ever get it together this season and if there is not going to be a coaching change in the offseason. Mike Bibby and troy murphy may give them a decent pg and a serviceable big, but the fact is they are flawed at their core when it comes to a stagnant offense in the 4th quarter.

 They are bullies agaisnt the wimps of the conference but when the big boys come down the hall they get shoved in a locker.
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« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2011, 12:11:32 PM »

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I knew they were bad against serious teams, but that bad...wow
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« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2011, 12:11:43 PM »

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Quote from: CNYCeltsfan on March 01, 2011, 11:47:25 AM
The heat may have a good record because they destroy weaker opponents, but against teams with winning records they are 13-14. More over they are 5-11 in games decided by 5 points or less. And vs. the East contenders (Boston, Chicago, Orlando) they are 1-6! That one win coming against Orlando in the first week of the season pre-arenas trade. In fact they only contender they have a winning record against is LA 1-0. They are 0-2 vs Dallas, and yet to play SA.

The next 10 games they face opponents with records averaging out to .682. If they continue to sputter you have to wonder if they will ever get it together this season and if there is not going to be a coaching change in the offseason. Mike Bibby and troy murphy may give them a decent pg and a serviceable big, but the fact is they are flawed at their core when it comes to a stagnant offense in the 4th quarter.

 They are bullies agaisnt the wimps of the conference but when the big boys come down the hall they get shoved in a locker.


Correction, heatles have 2 wins vs the Magic.
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« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2011, 01:19:34 PM »

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Trust me the objective heat supporters realize they're in trouble. They don't judge the heat by what they do against these scrubs teams, they judge them by what the do against the good teams. They're still fuming about that loss to us a few weeks ago and the bulls have emerged as another major threat. I've been telling people about the bulls all summer, because I thought that's who lebron was going to sign with. The heat are in the midst of playing the next 10 games against teams over . 500. They could easily fall to the 3rd spot. If they do that means potentially playing the knicks, bulls(without homecourt), then Boston, good luck. They way I see it they're the 3rd best team in the conference and i don't see them making it past Chicago. Next 3 games for Miami... Orlando, san Antonio(on the road back to back).. Then the bulls this Sunday. Were going to find out alot about this team over the next 2 weeks. We need to start distancing ourselves from them.
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« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2011, 01:27:43 PM »

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You can make a highlight film of all the choking LeBron did this year on last second shots.
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« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2011, 01:53:21 PM »

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I agree with all above posts.  Objectively, they could take a game or two in the playoffs against the Celtics if Wade of LeBron is on fire and we struggle a little from the field.  If you're talking about a 7 game series though ,they are too predictable, and the games aren't simulated, so their "on-paper" stats mean nothing.  There could be panic coming in South Beach.
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« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2011, 02:42:56 PM »

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Quote from: toinewalka on March 01, 2011, 01:53:21 PM
I agree with all above posts.  Objectively, they could take a game or two in the playoffs against the Celtics if Wade of LeBron is on fire and we struggle a little from the field.  If you're talking about a 7 game series though ,they are too predictable, and the games aren't simulated, so their "on-paper" stats mean nothing.  There could be panic coming in South Beach.

I don't think there will be panic as much as there will be excuses..seriously whenever the Heat lose it's how the Heat didn't do this, how Lebron didn't do this, Wade didn't do this, Bosh, etc etc. Just like when they lost to the Knicks a couple of nights ago it was all about the Heat losing the game, without the Knicks getting any credit for winning...

We'll probably start hearing(again), how they're still learning each other and need time to gel, that they're chemistry doesn't even compare to that of the Celtics or any other team, and that they're roster wasn't built to win a championship THIS year.
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« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2011, 07:45:28 PM »

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I don't see them getting past the Celtics nor the Bulls. Their lack of size is going to hurt them a lot.
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« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2011, 08:07:22 PM »

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Nope, sorry, I have seen it on espn many different times and heard from different anouncers
the miami heat are the best team in the nba, lebron is a demigod walking amongst us and what was it he predicted they are going to win 7 ? titles
I think NY will be better than them come playoff time AND chicago is a team to reckon with
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« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2011, 08:11:31 PM »

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i've heard "they need to gel" or "are they playoff ready..".?

never heard them say miami is the best team in the nba..

but every once in awhile you'll hear"the laker are the best"...then i jus flix the remote
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« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2011, 09:58:17 AM »

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Last night's loss to Orlando brings their records against contenders (LAL,BOS,SA,DAL,CHI) to 1-7 (4-9 if you include Orlando and OKC as contenders, i dont), winning teams to 14-16 and games within 5 points to 5-12.

In fact the only teams with Winning records they have won their season series with are LA Lakers (43-19) 1-0, Philadelphia (30-30) 2-0, Phoenix (31-28) 2-0, Portland (34-27). If you take out phoenix and portland as they could conceivably finish less then .500 you are looking at a 10-16 record with teams over .525. Just horrible

They play the spurs twice in the next week and they will get lucky as tony parker is out. I am actually hoping for them to win them both as I want the Celts to catch SA.
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« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2011, 11:23:34 AM »

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Miami Fizzle ;D
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« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2011, 12:07:39 PM »

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tp...that should be the name of this thread
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« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2011, 02:04:26 PM »

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In their past 11 games against .500+ teams they are 3-8.  Now they've got 11 straight against winning teams and they're already 0-1 (or 0-2 i don't know which side the Knicks loss falls on).  Fair to say they'll do worse than 3-8?

Don't really care as long as they bounce back from the 2 loss streak and crush SA.
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« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2011, 07:31:46 PM »

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The Magic thumped their butts again last night and pulled 2-2 against them.  LeBron and Wade scored 46 I think in the first half but kinda of disappeared in the second.     Glad we see a big change in phase 2 there LeBron.  When will this kid learn to shut up and play?  Bosh actually killed them last night more than anyone.  Richardson owned DWade last night.

This team had more hype than any I ever seen in my years of the NBA.  So far, it's  been unwarranted. 
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