What good is Perk?

[BlackCeltic]

...What good is Perk if Ray Allen and Paul Pierce's legs are done before the playoffs even begin? These guys are logging big time minutes right now just to keep us on top of the conference standings. I believe we owe it to these guys. I know Pierce and Allen think they have the stamina, but do they really?! Having a limp Perk may or may not help us. I rather have 4 fresh wings and a bunch of Center fillers than opposing wings running circles around Pierce and Ray Allen for 48 minutes while Perk argues the call since he is forced to foul the slasher that managed to get into the lane...Lets at least get a full roster together before we judge the decision made.

Green!

[wdleehi]

So sign someone to play minutes at SF.  Trade Avery for a backup SF.


They need a decent player to be a minutes eater. 



They didn't need a SF that takes a starting C to get. 

[BlackCeltic]

So sign someone to play minutes at SF.  Trade Avery for a backup SF.


They need a decent player to be a minutes eater. 



They didn't need a SF that takes a starting C to get. 

In this situation we get someone who is at least decent. Buying services of scrub back ups dont cut it. Am I the only one tired of seeing our bench unable to sustain leads due to the lack of offense?

[wdleehi]

So sign someone to play minutes at SF.  Trade Avery for a backup SF.


They need a decent player to be a minutes eater. 



They didn't need a SF that takes a starting C to get. 

In this situation we get someone who is at least decent. Buying services of scrub back ups dont cut it. Am I the only one tired of seeing our bench unable to sustain leads due to the lack of offense?

Why not?  TA worked last year.  A player of the level would not cost much more the Avery and Daniels.  (actually, that would be overpaying)

[PAOBoston]

i hate to tell ya but avery bradley aint worth much. a wing that could make a difference such as battier etc wasnt gonna be had with avery bradley. to get something good, you have to actually give something up (unless your dealing with chris wallace).

[BlackCeltic]

So sign someone to play minutes at SF.  Trade Avery for a backup SF.


They need a decent player to be a minutes eater. 



They didn't need a SF that takes a starting C to get. 

In this situation we get someone who is at least decent. Buying services of scrub back ups dont cut it. Am I the only one tired of seeing our bench unable to sustain leads due to the lack of offense?

Why not?  TA worked last year.  A player of the level would not cost much more the Avery and Daniels.  (actually, that would be overpaying)

Do you really believe that? I mean even with Daniels being out the rest of the season and a questionable future, along with Avery looking lost in the little time he has played? Im not sure we could get anything besides cash and a 2nd round selection or two. (What Pao said)

[wdleehi]

i hate to tell ya but avery bradley aint worth much. a wing that could make a difference such as battier etc wasnt gonna be had with avery bradley. to get something good, you have to actually give something up (unless your dealing with chris wallace).

Yet the reports were he was the guys teams were asking about.  


He had some trade value.  Enough to get a backup SF to be the 4th wing.  

[wdleehi]

So sign someone to play minutes at SF.  Trade Avery for a backup SF.


They need a decent player to be a minutes eater. 



They didn't need a SF that takes a starting C to get. 

In this situation we get someone who is at least decent. Buying services of scrub back ups dont cut it. Am I the only one tired of seeing our bench unable to sustain leads due to the lack of offense?

Why not?  TA worked last year.  A player of the level would not cost much more the Avery and Daniels.  (actually, that would be overpaying)

Do you really believe that? I mean even with Daniels being out the rest of the season and a questionable future, along with Avery looking lost in the little time he has played? Im not sure we could get anything besides cash and a 2nd round selection or two. (What Pao said)

Yes, I believe they could get a 4th wing. 

[BlackCeltic]

So sign someone to play minutes at SF.  Trade Avery for a backup SF.


They need a decent player to be a minutes eater. 



They didn't need a SF that takes a starting C to get. 

In this situation we get someone who is at least decent. Buying services of scrub back ups dont cut it. Am I the only one tired of seeing our bench unable to sustain leads due to the lack of offense?

Why not?  TA worked last year.  A player of the level would not cost much more the Avery and Daniels.  (actually, that would be overpaying)

Do you really believe that? I mean even with Daniels being out the rest of the season and a questionable future, along with Avery looking lost in the little time he has played? Im not sure we could get anything besides cash and a 2nd round selection or two. (What Pao said)

Yes, I believe they could get a 4th wing. 

Even if someone wanted Daniels and Avery...would the contracts have worked for a quality swingman? They dont come cheap.

[wdleehi]

So sign someone to play minutes at SF.  Trade Avery for a backup SF.


They need a decent player to be a minutes eater. 



They didn't need a SF that takes a starting C to get. 

In this situation we get someone who is at least decent. Buying services of scrub back ups dont cut it. Am I the only one tired of seeing our bench unable to sustain leads due to the lack of offense?

Why not?  TA worked last year.  A player of the level would not cost much more the Avery and Daniels.  (actually, that would be overpaying)

Do you really believe that? I mean even with Daniels being out the rest of the season and a questionable future, along with Avery looking lost in the little time he has played? Im not sure we could get anything besides cash and a 2nd round selection or two. (What Pao said)

Yes, I believe they could get a 4th wing. 

Even if someone wanted Daniels and Avery...would the contracts have worked for a quality swingman? They dont come cheap.

Since that would be more money then the Celtics had been paying for their quality backup SF (Daniels), yes.

[BlackCeltic]

So sign someone to play minutes at SF.  Trade Avery for a backup SF.


They need a decent player to be a minutes eater. 



They didn't need a SF that takes a starting C to get. 

In this situation we get someone who is at least decent. Buying services of scrub back ups dont cut it. Am I the only one tired of seeing our bench unable to sustain leads due to the lack of offense?

Why not?  TA worked last year.  A player of the level would not cost much more the Avery and Daniels.  (actually, that would be overpaying)

Do you really believe that? I mean even with Daniels being out the rest of the season and a questionable future, along with Avery looking lost in the little time he has played? Im not sure we could get anything besides cash and a 2nd round selection or two. (What Pao said)

Yes, I believe they could get a 4th wing. 

Even if someone wanted Daniels and Avery...would the contracts have worked for a quality swingman? They dont come cheap.

Since that would be more money then the Celtics had been paying for their quality backup SF (Daniels), yes.

I wouldn't call Marquis a quality back up. That's like saying Eddie House is a quality back up. They do what they do, but are very limited skillwise. We really need backups that can create offense. Delonte West is our best bench player in that regard. That's crazy!

[wdleehi]

I wouldn't call Marquis a quality back up. That's like saying Eddie House is a quality back up. They do what they do, but are very limited skillwise. We really need backups that can create offense. Delonte West is our best bench player in that regard. That's crazy!

The Celtics considered him a quality backup.  They were not looking for a SF until he got hurt.


His play (especially defense) made him look like a quality backup.


Quality backup does not have to be a starting level player to be quality. 

[pearljammer10]

So sign someone to play minutes at SF.  Trade Avery for a backup SF.


They need a decent player to be a minutes eater. 



They didn't need a SF that takes a starting C to get. 

100% agree here. Why trade your starting center on a proven championship contending team for a guy whose position no one is really sure of. Is he too big to play SF? Too small to play PF? Not good enough to guard PFs?... Why risk disrupting your chemistry by trading your starting center and you defensive enforcer that gives us incredible intimidation towards other teams when we could have gotten a SF to play 15 minutes off the bench.

Now we have a young 23 year old thats used to playing 37 minutes a game. How is he going to take the fact of playing 10 to 15 minutes a game behind Pierce? We already have a 6th man of the year canidate taking up most of the bench minutes. Green might disrupt that chemistry playing so few minutes.

[BlackCeltic]

So sign someone to play minutes at SF.  Trade Avery for a backup SF.


They need a decent player to be a minutes eater. 



They didn't need a SF that takes a starting C to get. 

100% agree here. Why trade your starting center on a proven championship contending team for a guy whose position no one is really sure of. Is he too big to play SF? Too small to play PF? Not good enough to guard PFs?... Why risk disrupting your chemistry by trading your starting center and you defensive enforcer that gives us incredible intimidation towards other teams when we could have gotten a SF to play 15 minutes off the bench.

Now we have a young 23 year old thats used to playing 37 minutes a game. How is he going to take the fact of playing 10 to 15 minutes a game behind Pierce? We already have a 6th man of the year canidate taking up most of the bench minutes. Green might disrupt that chemistry playing so few minutes.

wdleehi...I agree that we were able to live with Marquis prior to the injury, but that was prior to his injury. Im sure Danny explored his options prior to the Perk trade. But this has the potential to work very well in our favor.

I believe Green will take the load off of Pierce and Allen's backs. These guys could not get off the floor and Perk cant stay on the floor. How would we keep up for the rest of the season, nevermind the playoffs...We had huge issues before the trade and we have issues now, they are just different issues. This team has not been the same since the loss of Posey...I would like to see us have that type of balance again. Why not wait and see how the lineup shakes out before saying this is a bad move?

[wdleehi]

So sign someone to play minutes at SF.  Trade Avery for a backup SF.


They need a decent player to be a minutes eater. 



They didn't need a SF that takes a starting C to get. 

100% agree here. Why trade your starting center on a proven championship contending team for a guy whose position no one is really sure of. Is he too big to play SF? Too small to play PF? Not good enough to guard PFs?... Why risk disrupting your chemistry by trading your starting center and you defensive enforcer that gives us incredible intimidation towards other teams when we could have gotten a SF to play 15 minutes off the bench.

Now we have a young 23 year old thats used to playing 37 minutes a game. How is he going to take the fact of playing 10 to 15 minutes a game behind Pierce? We already have a 6th man of the year canidate taking up most of the bench minutes. Green might disrupt that chemistry playing so few minutes.

wdleehi...I agree that we were able to live with Marquis prior to the injury, but that was prior to his injury. Im sure Danny explored his options prior to the Perk trade. But this has the potential to work very well in our favor.

I believe Green will take the load off of Pierce and Allen's backs. These guys could not get off the floor and Perk cant stay on the floor. How would we keep up for the rest of the season, nevermind the playoffs...We had huge issues before the trade and we have issues now, they are just different issues. This team has not been the same since the loss of Posey...I would like to see us have that type of balance again. Why not wait and see how the lineup shakes out before saying this is a bad move?

Before the Daniels injury, everything was "this starting lineup has never lost a playoff series when healthy"


Last year, without Posey, it was a Perk injury that kept them from winning.  They lost it down low when Perk went out.  Posey (or Green) will not help them down low against the Lakers.