What good is Perk?

[BudweiserCeltic]

The absence of Perk is not what kept us from winning.

What kept us from winning was Pierce going 5-15 and Ray Allen going 3-14.

[wdleehi]

The absence of Perk is not what kept us from winning.

What kept us from winning was Pierce going 5-15 and Ray Allen going 3-14.

Celtics lost because of 19 and 18.


The amount of points and rebounds that Gasol got.


Because while Piece and Ray didn't shoot well, Kobe was also 6-24.

[BudweiserCeltic]

The Lakers scored 83 points, we scored 79. Seriously, are you going to hang up our loss on not being able to guard Gasol?

Remember, having someone injured in the middle of the series is not the same as having full depth.

Gasol had that high amount do to getting fouled, he still went 6-16. It happens, but if you're in a 7th game and hold the opponent to 83 points, are leading the game by 10+ at points, you better close out the game.

BTW, Ron Artest 20 points. Ridiculous.

[BlackCeltic]

The absence of Perk is not what kept us from winning.

What kept us from winning was Pierce going 5-15 and Ray Allen going 3-14.

Celtics lost because of 19 and 18.


The amount of points and rebounds that Gasol got.


Because while Piece and Ray didn't shoot well, Kobe was also 6-24.

We also lossed because Wallace was our only scoring option after the Big 3. When Posey was here, we dominated the Lakers...Our bench dominated the Lakers! No way we can compete running up and down with the young swingmen, especially if Perk couldnt stay on the floor. Perk is still a big IF anyway you look at it.

[wdleehi]

The Lakers scored 83 points, we scored 79. Seriously, are you going to hang up our loss on not being able to guard Gasol?

Remember, having someone injured in the middle of the series is not the same as having full depth.

Gasol had that high amount do to getting fouled, he still went 6-16. It happens, but if you're in a 7th game and hold the opponent to 83 points, are leading the game by 10+ at points, you better close out the game.

BTW, Ron Artest 20 points. Ridiculous.

Do you think that having a big body to help on the boards would have helped a team win a close game when they were out rebounded by 13?  

Maybe, just maybe.  


Gave the Lakers an extra 12 shots?  (not to mention the extra 20 FTs)

[wdleehi]

The absence of Perk is not what kept us from winning.

What kept us from winning was Pierce going 5-15 and Ray Allen going 3-14.

Celtics lost because of 19 and 18.


The amount of points and rebounds that Gasol got.


Because while Piece and Ray didn't shoot well, Kobe was also 6-24.

We also lossed because Wallace was our only scoring option after the Big 3. When Posey was here, we dominated the Lakers...Our bench dominated the Lakers! No way we can compete running up and down with the young swingmen, especially if Perk couldnt stay on the floor. Perk is still a big IF anyway you look at it.

Except the game Perk missed.  Odom and Gasol actually were good in that game after being pushed around in the other games.  (and were pushed around the next game when Perk returned)

[BudweiserCeltic]

The Lakers scored 83 points, we scored 79. Seriously, are you going to hang up our loss on not being able to guard Gasol?

Remember, having someone injured in the middle of the series is not the same as having full depth.

Gasol had that high amount do to getting fouled, he still went 6-16. It happens, but if you're in a 7th game and hold the opponent to 83 points, are leading the game by 10+ at points, you better close out the game.

BTW, Ron Artest 20 points. Ridiculous.

Do you think that having a big body to help on the boards would have helped a team win a close game when they were out rebounded by 13? 

Maybe, just maybe. 


Gave the Lakers an extra 12 shots?  (not to mention the extra 20 FTs)

Like game 1, in which Perk played and we still got out-rebounded by 11? And Gasol scored 23 on 8-14 shooting with 10 FTA? Or how about game 2, which we actually won, but Gasol scored 25 points on 7-10 shooting with 13 FTA?

Gasol dominated that series with or without Perk. The 7th game was actually his worst shooting day.

[BlackCeltic]

The absence of Perk is not what kept us from winning.

What kept us from winning was Pierce going 5-15 and Ray Allen going 3-14.

Celtics lost because of 19 and 18.


The amount of points and rebounds that Gasol got.


Because while Piece and Ray didn't shoot well, Kobe was also 6-24.

We also lossed because Wallace was our only scoring option after the Big 3. When Posey was here, we dominated the Lakers...Our bench dominated the Lakers! No way we can compete running up and down with the young swingmen, especially if Perk couldnt stay on the floor. Perk is still a big IF anyway you look at it.

Except the game Perk missed.  Odom and Gasol actually were good in that game after being pushed around in the other games.  (and were pushed around the next game when Perk returned)

As long as we have Rondo, Pierce, and Garnett, defense will never be an issue. We held playoff bound Denver to under 90 points with Glen Davis and Johnson playing center. We need players with skillsets at the wing positions to help us score. Our defense is the best in the league with or without Perk.

[BballTim]

The absence of Perk is not what kept us from winning.

What kept us from winning was Pierce going 5-15 and Ray Allen going 3-14.

Celtics lost because of 19 and 18.


The amount of points and rebounds that Gasol got.


Because while Piece and Ray didn't shoot well, Kobe was also 6-24.

  Losing by 4 points in game 7 is too close a series to say we lost because of one thing. If any number of things had gone a little differently we would have won, so any number of things could be seen as the reason we didn't win. Perk's injury. Ray getting kneed in the thigh. Sheed's back. Lethargic play in games 1 and 6. The list goes on and on.

[wdleehi]

The absence of Perk is not what kept us from winning.

What kept us from winning was Pierce going 5-15 and Ray Allen going 3-14.

Celtics lost because of 19 and 18.


The amount of points and rebounds that Gasol got.


Because while Piece and Ray didn't shoot well, Kobe was also 6-24.

We also lossed because Wallace was our only scoring option after the Big 3. When Posey was here, we dominated the Lakers...Our bench dominated the Lakers! No way we can compete running up and down with the young swingmen, especially if Perk couldnt stay on the floor. Perk is still a big IF anyway you look at it.

Except the game Perk missed.  Odom and Gasol actually were good in that game after being pushed around in the other games.  (and were pushed around the next game when Perk returned)

As long as we have Rondo, Pierce, and Garnett, defense will never be an issue. We held playoff bound Denver to under 90 points with Glen Davis and Johnson playing center. We need players with skillsets at the wing positions to help us score. Our defense is the best in the league with or without Perk.

A nugget team that had just traded away Melo and Billups and the Celtics lost to?? 



Really?

[BudweiserCeltic]

Also, remember that we didn't have this year's KG either.

[BlackCeltic]

The absence of Perk is not what kept us from winning.

What kept us from winning was Pierce going 5-15 and Ray Allen going 3-14.

Celtics lost because of 19 and 18.


The amount of points and rebounds that Gasol got.


Because while Piece and Ray didn't shoot well, Kobe was also 6-24.

We also lossed because Wallace was our only scoring option after the Big 3. When Posey was here, we dominated the Lakers...Our bench dominated the Lakers! No way we can compete running up and down with the young swingmen, especially if Perk couldnt stay on the floor. Perk is still a big IF anyway you look at it.

Except the game Perk missed.  Odom and Gasol actually were good in that game after being pushed around in the other games.  (and were pushed around the next game when Perk returned)

As long as we have Rondo, Pierce, and Garnett, defense will never be an issue. We held playoff bound Denver to under 90 points with Glen Davis and Johnson playing center. We need players with skillsets at the wing positions to help us score. Our defense is the best in the league with or without Perk.

A nugget team that had just traded away Melo and Billups and the Celtics lost to?? 



Really?

Yes the same playoff bound Nuggets team that blew out Memphis with only 8 dressed players 2 days prior, scoring 120 points.

[wdleehi]

Also, remember that we didn't have this year's KG either.

That is good.


But unless the Oneal's are back (and those are big ifs) the Celtics are undersized once again.  



That's the part that has me hung up on this deal.  


I get the logic of talent (Green and a 1st) and money (whether or not the Celtics could resign Perk) of the trade.


I don't get the logic in terms of winning a ring this season.  

[wdleehi]

The absence of Perk is not what kept us from winning.

What kept us from winning was Pierce going 5-15 and Ray Allen going 3-14.

Celtics lost because of 19 and 18.


The amount of points and rebounds that Gasol got.


Because while Piece and Ray didn't shoot well, Kobe was also 6-24.

We also lossed because Wallace was our only scoring option after the Big 3. When Posey was here, we dominated the Lakers...Our bench dominated the Lakers! No way we can compete running up and down with the young swingmen, especially if Perk couldnt stay on the floor. Perk is still a big IF anyway you look at it.

Except the game Perk missed.  Odom and Gasol actually were good in that game after being pushed around in the other games.  (and were pushed around the next game when Perk returned)

As long as we have Rondo, Pierce, and Garnett, defense will never be an issue. We held playoff bound Denver to under 90 points with Glen Davis and Johnson playing center. We need players with skillsets at the wing positions to help us score. Our defense is the best in the league with or without Perk.

A nugget team that had just traded away Melo and Billups and the Celtics lost to?? 



Really?

Yes the same playoff bound Nuggets team that blew out Memphis with only 8 dressed players 2 days prior, scoring 120 points.

Memphis.  Another of the big guns in the NBA. 

[BlackCeltic]

The absence of Perk is not what kept us from winning.

What kept us from winning was Pierce going 5-15 and Ray Allen going 3-14.

Celtics lost because of 19 and 18.


The amount of points and rebounds that Gasol got.


Because while Piece and Ray didn't shoot well, Kobe was also 6-24.

We also lossed because Wallace was our only scoring option after the Big 3. When Posey was here, we dominated the Lakers...Our bench dominated the Lakers! No way we can compete running up and down with the young swingmen, especially if Perk couldnt stay on the floor. Perk is still a big IF anyway you look at it.

Except the game Perk missed.  Odom and Gasol actually were good in that game after being pushed around in the other games.  (and were pushed around the next game when Perk returned)

As long as we have Rondo, Pierce, and Garnett, defense will never be an issue. We held playoff bound Denver to under 90 points with Glen Davis and Johnson playing center. We need players with skillsets at the wing positions to help us score. Our defense is the best in the league with or without Perk.

A nugget team that had just traded away Melo and Billups and the Celtics lost to?? 



Really?

Yes the same playoff bound Nuggets team that blew out Memphis with only 8 dressed players 2 days prior, scoring 120 points.

Memphis.  Another of the big guns in the NBA. 

If the playoffs started today, Memphis would be in.