the buyout free agent watch thread

[Greenbean]

Dont be silly with that Howard comment. Dalembert might be on the table.

It's not silly. Employing logic there's no reason to believe that Dalembert would be bought out. It's 100% hope. 0% logic. Again, why would they not take a trade and gain an asset if they were going to buy him out? IE: Jeffries & a pick for Dalembert.

I just think its unreasonable to put his name in the conversation.

Dalmbert could easily be bought out to save the Kings some money. That team is in dire financial straights, plus they shouldn't be tying up money in an older role player.

They're talking like they want to extend him for some reason though.

I think I read here yesterday about how the Bos-Sac trade with Daniels was meant to help get the Kings over the minimum salary cap threshold too?

Yes which is related to the salary cap rules. Buying out Dalembert still physically saves the owners money...right experts? Or am I wrong?

[Fafnir]

Dont be silly with that Howard comment. Dalembert might be on the table.

It's not silly. Employing logic there's no reason to believe that Dalembert would be bought out. It's 100% hope. 0% logic. Again, why would they not take a trade and gain an asset if they were going to buy him out? IE: Jeffries & a pick for Dalembert.

I just think its unreasonable to put his name in the conversation.

Dalmbert could easily be bought out to save the Kings some money. That team is in dire financial straights, plus they shouldn't be tying up money in an older role player.

They're talking like they want to extend him for some reason though.

I think I read here yesterday about how the Bos-Sac trade with Daniels was meant to help get the Kings over the minimum salary cap threshold too?

I'm not sure if buying out reduces a players cap figure, I think the cap figure remained the same but the actual salary paid could save the tea money.

[StartOrien]

Dont be silly with that Howard comment. Dalembert might be on the table.

It's not silly. Employing logic there's no reason to believe that Dalembert would be bought out. It's 100% hope. 0% logic. Again, why would they not take a trade and gain an asset if they were going to buy him out? IE: Jeffries & a pick for Dalembert.

I just think its unreasonable to put his name in the conversation.

Dalmbert could easily be bought out to save the Kings some money. That team is in dire financial straights, plus they shouldn't be tying up money in an older role player.

They're talking like they want to extend him for some reason though.

But again, if their intentions are a buyout why not take the Houston deal, gain a pick and buyout Jeffries? At this point he's a valuable commodity, if they wanted to cut costs they could've done so AND gained a chip.

[Eja117]

There's a reason these guys are getting bought out. They aren't exactly all-stars.  Half the reason to sign them is to keep them away from other teams.

I don't really care who they sign or how he does at first. It will take a little while before reappointing Danny Ainge a genius just because he brings in a Troy Murphy. 

Oh look! It's a backup for our backup!  What a great buyout! Danny really knew something we didn't. 

It's like trying to be excited because the Pats trade away Brandon Spikes for a 7th rounder and then signs Junior Seau for the season.

[Fafnir]

Dont be silly with that Howard comment. Dalembert might be on the table.

It's not silly. Employing logic there's no reason to believe that Dalembert would be bought out. It's 100% hope. 0% logic. Again, why would they not take a trade and gain an asset if they were going to buy him out? IE: Jeffries & a pick for Dalembert.

I just think its unreasonable to put his name in the conversation.

Dalmbert could easily be bought out to save the Kings some money. That team is in dire financial straights, plus they shouldn't be tying up money in an older role player.

They're talking like they want to extend him for some reason though.

But again, if their intentions are a buyout why not take the Houston deal, gain a pick and buyout Jeffries? At this point he's a valuable commodity, if they wanted to cut costs they could've done so AND gained a chip.

Oh I understand what the reports are saying, and it seems a buy out is unlikely, I just don't think it makes a lot of sense.

[StartOrien]

Dont be silly with that Howard comment. Dalembert might be on the table.

It's not silly. Employing logic there's no reason to believe that Dalembert would be bought out. It's 100% hope. 0% logic. Again, why would they not take a trade and gain an asset if they were going to buy him out? IE: Jeffries & a pick for Dalembert.

I just think its unreasonable to put his name in the conversation.

Dalmbert could easily be bought out to save the Kings some money. That team is in dire financial straights, plus they shouldn't be tying up money in an older role player.

They're talking like they want to extend him for some reason though.

But again, if their intentions are a buyout why not take the Houston deal, gain a pick and buyout Jeffries? At this point he's a valuable commodity, if they wanted to cut costs they could've done so AND gained a chip.

Oh I understand what the reports are saying, and it seems a buy out is unlikely, I just don't think it makes a lot of sense.

Ya, I think we're on the same page. I don't mean to say that there's absolutely no way we're going to get him, but I just thought it was odd that he was being extensively discussed when our chances of landing him are well below 1%

[Fan from VT]

Dont be silly with that Howard comment. Dalembert might be on the table.

It's not silly. Employing logic there's no reason to believe that Dalembert would be bought out. It's 100% hope. 0% logic. Again, why would they not take a trade and gain an asset if they were going to buy him out? IE: Jeffries & a pick for Dalembert.

I just think its unreasonable to put his name in the conversation.

Dalmbert could easily be bought out to save the Kings some money. That team is in dire financial straights, plus they shouldn't be tying up money in an older role player.

They're talking like they want to extend him for some reason though.

But again, if their intentions are a buyout why not take the Houston deal, gain a pick and buyout Jeffries? At this point he's a valuable commodity, if they wanted to cut costs they could've done so AND gained a chip.

Oh I understand what the reports are saying, and it seems a buy out is unlikely, I just don't think it makes a lot of sense.

Ya, I think we're on the same page. I don't mean to say that there's absolutely no way we're going to get him, but I just thought it was odd that he was being extensively discussed when our chances of landing him are well below 1%

Here's how I understand it, and i bet Dalembert is/was the subject of buyout rumors because he fits the profile (bad, money-scrapped team, expiring contract, rebuilding team). However, Sac is subject to a very rarely relevant rule: the minimum salary. Had they stood pat at the deadline, they were under the minimum and would have, at the end of the season, been forced to pay each player on their roster a portion of the difference to make up to the minimum total salary. By trading for Daniels, they got to the minimum. So I do not think they can actually buyout Dalembert to save money, because they'd dip below the minimum again and be forced to pay out money anyway. So it doesn't make sense financially to buyout Dalembert.

[blackbird]

Dont be silly with that Howard comment. Dalembert might be on the table.

It's not silly. Employing logic there's no reason to believe that Dalembert would be bought out. It's 100% hope. 0% logic. Again, why would they not take a trade and gain an asset if they were going to buy him out? IE: Jeffries & a pick for Dalembert.

I just think its unreasonable to put his name in the conversation.

Dalmbert could easily be bought out to save the Kings some money. That team is in dire financial straights, plus they shouldn't be tying up money in an older role player.

They're talking like they want to extend him for some reason though.

But again, if their intentions are a buyout why not take the Houston deal, gain a pick and buyout Jeffries? At this point he's a valuable commodity, if they wanted to cut costs they could've done so AND gained a chip.

Oh I understand what the reports are saying, and it seems a buy out is unlikely, I just don't think it makes a lot of sense.

Ya, I think we're on the same page. I don't mean to say that there's absolutely no way we're going to get him, but I just thought it was odd that he was being extensively discussed when our chances of landing him are well below 1%

Here's how I understand it, and i bet Dalembert is/was the subject of buyout rumors because he fits the profile (bad, money-scrapped team, expiring contract, rebuilding team). However, Sac is subject to a very rarely relevant rule: the minimum salary. Had they stood pat at the deadline, they were under the minimum and would have, at the end of the season, been forced to pay each player on their roster a portion of the difference to make up to the minimum total salary. By trading for Daniels, they got to the minimum. So I do not think they can actually buyout Dalembert to save money, because they'd dip below the minimum again and be forced to pay out money anyway. So it doesn't make sense financially to buyout Dalembert.

I don't think this is accurate - I'm pretty sure that even if they buy him out their payroll vis a vis the salary cap/threshold is for the full contract.

By adding Daniels' contract they get over that threshold without actually spending money because of I assume that insurance is paying his salary. Sounds like it should be worth more than a 2017 second rounder.

[pearljammer10]

Dont be silly with that Howard comment. Dalembert might be on the table.

It's not silly. Employing logic there's no reason to believe that Dalembert would be bought out. It's 100% hope. 0% logic. Again, why would they not take a trade and gain an asset if they were going to buy him out? IE: Jeffries & a pick for Dalembert.

I just think its unreasonable to put his name in the conversation.

Dalmbert could easily be bought out to save the Kings some money. That team is in dire financial straights, plus they shouldn't be tying up money in an older role player.

They're talking like they want to extend him for some reason though.

But again, if their intentions are a buyout why not take the Houston deal, gain a pick and buyout Jeffries? At this point he's a valuable commodity, if they wanted to cut costs they could've done so AND gained a chip.

Oh I understand what the reports are saying, and it seems a buy out is unlikely, I just don't think it makes a lot of sense.

Ya, I think we're on the same page. I don't mean to say that there's absolutely no way we're going to get him, but I just thought it was odd that he was being extensively discussed when our chances of landing him are well below 1%

Here's how I understand it, and i bet Dalembert is/was the subject of buyout rumors because he fits the profile (bad, money-scrapped team, expiring contract, rebuilding team). However, Sac is subject to a very rarely relevant rule: the minimum salary. Had they stood pat at the deadline, they were under the minimum and would have, at the end of the season, been forced to pay each player on their roster a portion of the difference to make up to the minimum total salary. By trading for Daniels, they got to the minimum. So I do not think they can actually buyout Dalembert to save money, because they'd dip below the minimum again and be forced to pay out money anyway. So it doesn't make sense financially to buyout Dalembert.

I wouldnt call Dalembert bad at all... Since Sactown actually began to get a brain and play him, he has been playing pretty darn good. In February he has averaged 11 and 9 off the bench shooting 51%.

[jsilva982]

The Pacers plan to start negotiating a buyout with T.J. Ford, to give him a chance to sign with a contender before Tuesday's deadline.

The Blazers, Heat and Knicks have been mentioned as possible destinations, though Ford will likely be a backup wherever he lands.

edit - rotoworld.com as source

[Cman]

The Pacers plan to start negotiating a buyout with T.J. Ford, to give him a chance to sign with a contender before Tuesday's deadline.

The Blazers, Heat and Knicks have been mentioned as possible destinations, though Ford will likely be a backup wherever he lands.

edit - rotoworld.com as source

T.J. Ford: pass.
I'm also not sold on the idea that Troy Murphy is what we need.  Any mean bruisers out there at Center?  That's what we need.  Someone who can bang down low, grab boards, block/alter shots.... (does that sound like Troy Murphy?)

[Lucky17]

I believe the assumption is that Ford will sign with Portland. He works out in the summers with LaMarcus Aldridge, and Portland could use a true PG to back up Andre Miller.

[Redz]

What is Nazr Mohammed's situation?  Is he someone OKC needs?  I guess as insurance if Perk goes down.

[Lucky17]

What is Nazr Mohammed's situation?  Is he someone OKC needs?  I guess as insurance if Perk goes down.

Yeah, OKC wants him. Veteran with playoff experience, should figure in the frontcourt rotation.

[Asijs]

Wizards and new guard Mike Bibby are discussing a possible buyout, a source told Y! Sports.

http://twitter.com/#!/SpearsNBAYahoo/status/41201986942668800