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Re: Troy Murphy who?
« Reply #30 on: February 25, 2011, 08:27:42 PM »

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He's a 6'10 version of Luke Harangody.

A 6'10 version of Luke Harangody that happened to average a double double for half of his NBA season.

A 6'10" Harangody WOULD average a double double.  I actually think that is an apt description.  The only thing keeping Harangody from being a borderline all-star is his lack of size, and the only thing keeping Murphy from being a multiple all-star is that he could never stay healthy.  


Harangody as a borderline all star? Now, I've read it all.

LOL! I seriously fell out of my chair laughing and im still laughing as I type this when that guy suggested that Harangody had the potential to be a borderline all star.

All-Stars and everything Harangody isnt and never will b. Harangody honestly doesent even look like a basketball playe

I 100% agree with Chris. Borderline is the key word. Troy Murphy in the right system would probably get into an all-star game. David Lee made an all-star game with a very similar game. :)

Agreed. Only because it is Lukes 1st year in the NBA and to judge a player who has not played many minutes is jumping the gun. Bottom line is that he could be a Troy Murphy type of player except his two positions are 3 and 4 instead of 4 and 5.

Luke could eventually be a decent contributing starter or he could be a bench warmer... at this stage in the game it's just too hard to tell. It'd be different if he was the C's 6th man and stunk it up for 40 games at 30 minutes a night but most minutes he saw was maybe 10 a game if he was lucky.
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Re: Troy Murphy who?
« Reply #31 on: February 25, 2011, 08:57:47 PM »

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I don't think Murphy would be a multiple all star folks.

Jermaine 0'Neal, Kevin Garnett, Tim Duncan, Chris Bosh, Dirk Nowitzki, Elton Brand, Carlos Boozer, Rasheed Wallace, David West, Antonio McDyess and Karl Malone were all PF in the last ten years which means Troy Boy would not have made the cut injuries or not.

I see Harangody being a Ryan Gomes type.

Re: Troy Murphy who?
« Reply #32 on: February 25, 2011, 09:50:57 PM »

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It's crazy that a player as skilled as Murphy could be available.  I mean come on: a double-double guy who hits 3's at 39% for his career and is still in his prime?  Crazy.

Unless his injuries have drastically reduced from the player he was as recently as last year, he'd be an amazing pick-up for any of the contenders.

I know his defense is bad, but we've given meaningful minutes to Luke Harangody and Semih Erden so far this season.  Having a guy like Murphy to get those minutes?  Wow.
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Re: Troy Murphy who?
« Reply #33 on: February 26, 2011, 08:04:51 AM »

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I think his defense would improve with us should we be so lucky.  KG will demand it.

Re: Troy Murphy who?
« Reply #34 on: February 26, 2011, 08:48:39 AM »

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There's 0% chance that Murphy could have been an All-Star.

Coach: Jim O'Brien was the best thing to happen to Murphy's career. Best coach possible for him in the entire league. The kind of coach whose system - the spacing, the pace - maximize what a guy like Murphy brings to the table.

Defense: He's one of the worst defenders in the NBA and his "team defense" is as horrible as the rest of it. He's frequently out of position, he's very slow helping, recovering and rotating.

All-Star:

Scoring, volume and efficiency: Murphy is an efficient scorer because he's a good 3pt shooter, but he lacks versatility in his offensive game to put up bigger numbers than those he posted in Indiana. You can only score so much in trailer 3s, spotting up and the very occasional dribble drive from the elbow. Murphy lacks shot-creation skills to put up the type of scoring All-Stars have. The increase on usage rate he'd need would come at the cost of an abrupt decline on efficiency as he'd need to take shots he simply can't make. He's way more valuable as a 15ppg scorer than as a 20ppg one.

Rebounding:He doesn't keep possessions alive in the offensive glass; his value is exclusively as a defensive rebounder. However, his numbers overstate the true value of his contributions as he's basically a glass cleaner who isn't very good getting contested rebounds. He pads his stats with the easy ones that in most cases one of his teammates would get (mind you, every great rebounder, the Loves, the Howards, the Rodmans, the Malones, do this, it's part of the mindset... but they're also dominant on the hard ones. Not Murphy).

Summary: Murphy can be a solid starter in the right system. In a team that can use the shooting from the big man position to space the floor and that has enough defensive quality to make up for his deficiencies (especially a high quality defensive big who can guard both big man positions, defend the pick'n'roll and protect the rim). For most teams though, he should be a 3rd or ideally a 4th big. An All-Star? He just lacks the talent to even sniff that.