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Re: Danilo Galinari?
« Reply #15 on: February 22, 2011, 01:32:28 PM »

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Re: Danilo Galinari?
« Reply #16 on: February 22, 2011, 01:34:15 PM »

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But yeah, there's nothing we can trade to land Gallinari.  We have no real assets, and most of our contracts have another year, meaning we're asking Denver to take on -- rather than shed -- salary.  It won't happen.


The only reason I even thought of it is if Denver is willing to immediately trade Danilo, that has to mean they're looking to go into rebuilding at warp speed.  That's means more trades in the future and picking up as many cheap, young players as possible.  A package centered on either Quis' expiring deal or Bradley, with a combination of Wafer, Erden and Luke and at least a 1st and a 2nd might make sense in context of the other moves Denver is looking to make.  But if the Clips are offering a T-pup 1st in 2012, I'm not sure there's anything to beat that.

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This offer would be worthless to the Nuggets, Quis, wafer, erdan and luke does not include one piece that would be a starter now or in the future for the nuggets.  Our first would be one of the last of the round and is also not a building block. 

My point is that if they're going to immediately trade Danilo, they're not looking for starters.  They're looking to blow the whole thing up as quickly as they can.  I'd agree that what Boston can offer, unless it includes more than one 1st round pick, isn't very attractive in a vacuum.  But if Denver is, for example, also going to let K-Mart walk and try to trade Harrington, Birdman, Felton and possibly Nene so they can essentially start rebuilding next year, that might open the door a crack for Ainge.

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Not really, we can barely get guys like Rasual Butler and Anthony Parker.  I like either of those guys, but we don't have the assets to not be laughed out of the room by denver
The reason we can barely get those guys is we aren't offering first round picks or even Big Baby.  If you are talking about a talented young player, I don't see any reason why Davis, 2011 first, and future first couldn't at least be a competative offer for someone like Gallinari.
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Re: Danilo Galinari?
« Reply #17 on: February 22, 2011, 01:35:28 PM »

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again I wouldtrade BBD for this guy. He is a mature 6'10" guy avg 15.9ppg & 5rpg off the bench that can help spread the floor!!!
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Re: Danilo Galinari?
« Reply #18 on: February 22, 2011, 02:03:39 PM »

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D'antoni says he has the best just in the NBA.
again I wouldtrade BBD for this guy. He is a mature 6'10" guy avg 15.9ppg & 5rpg off the bench that can help spread the floor!!!
why do you guys want to trade BBD so much? he's been great this year Gallo isn't gonna want to come off the bench for 10-15 minutes for the Celtics he was playing big time minutes in New York

Re: Danilo Galinari?
« Reply #19 on: February 22, 2011, 02:07:19 PM »

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I'm not exactly sure why, but there's talk that Denver might be looking to move Galinari after getting the 'Melo deal done.  If there's any truth to that, shouldn't he be #1 on Ainge's wish list?  Yeah, there'd probably be more defensive issues with Galinari than with some other options, but he wouldn't be on the floor in crunch time defensive situations.  What Galinari could do is play 10 to 12 minutes in the middle of each half and provide the kind of offensive mismatch that Hedo used to do with Orlando.  With Shaq, Baby and hopefully JO manning the 4 and 5 spots in the second unit, Galinari would just be a nightmare for other team's to handle at the 3.

Now, I wouldn't give up Baby or Perk for him, which means Ainge would probably have to offer up at least a 1st and a 2nd round pick in the deal, but that doesn't seem like to high a price.

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The Clippers are offering the t-wolves first round pick for him.

We have no real assets, and most of our contracts have another year, meaning we're asking Denver to take on -- rather than shed -- salary.  It won't happen.

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Re: Danilo Galinari?
« Reply #20 on: February 22, 2011, 02:11:15 PM »

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D'antoni says he has the best just in the NBA.
again I wouldtrade BBD for this guy. He is a mature 6'10" guy avg 15.9ppg & 5rpg off the bench that can help spread the floor!!!
why do you guys want to trade BBD so much? he's been great this year Gallo isn't gonna want to come off the bench for 10-15 minutes for the Celtics he was playing big time minutes in New York               

I think he would play a bigger role her then BBD. I think Gallo could help with Pierce playing less minutes in the regular season and he would also gain more minutes next year & possibly a ring this yr / next!
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Re: Danilo Galinari?
« Reply #21 on: February 22, 2011, 02:17:26 PM »

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Nah man miss me with that garbage he isn't even a good defender nobody takes charges better then BBD he should not and will not be traded this year so forget about packaging BBD and other Celtics players in some weird deal for an average at best player

Re: Danilo Galinari?
« Reply #22 on: February 22, 2011, 02:20:01 PM »

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But yeah, there's nothing we can trade to land Gallinari.  We have no real assets, and most of our contracts have another year, meaning we're asking Denver to take on -- rather than shed -- salary.  It won't happen.


The only reason I even thought of it is if Denver is willing to immediately trade Danilo, that has to mean they're looking to go into rebuilding at warp speed.  That's means more trades in the future and picking up as many cheap, young players as possible.  A package centered on either Quis' expiring deal or Bradley, with a combination of Wafer, Erden and Luke and at least a 1st and a 2nd might make sense in context of the other moves Denver is looking to make.  But if the Clips are offering a T-pup 1st in 2012, I'm not sure there's anything to beat that.

Mike

This offer would be worthless to the Nuggets, Quis, wafer, erdan and luke does not include one piece that would be a starter now or in the future for the nuggets.  Our first would be one of the last of the round and is also not a building block. 

My point is that if they're going to immediately trade Danilo, they're not looking for starters.  They're looking to blow the whole thing up as quickly as they can.  I'd agree that what Boston can offer, unless it includes more than one 1st round pick, isn't very attractive in a vacuum.  But if Denver is, for example, also going to let K-Mart walk and try to trade Harrington, Birdman, Felton and possibly Nene so they can essentially start rebuilding next year, that might open the door a crack for Ainge.

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Not really, we can barely get guys like Rasual Butler and Anthony Parker.  I like either of those guys, but we don't have the assets to not be laughed out of the room by denver
The reason we can barely get those guys is we aren't offering first round picks or even Big Baby.  If you are talking about a talented young player, I don't see any reason why Davis, 2011 first, and future first couldn't at least be a competative offer for someone like Gallinari.

Baby and 2 firsts is too much.  No one is going to give up a decent player and 2 firsts for Danilo, but Baby, a first and additional consideration would certainly get Boston in the discussion.  If you're just thinking about the future, you have to do that deal for Boston because Danilo's limitations are less absolute than Baby's.  But for this season, Ainge would be gambling any shot at a championship entirely on the health of Shaq and JO.

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Re: Danilo Galinari?
« Reply #23 on: February 22, 2011, 03:15:54 PM »

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Nope desn't play enough defense and he won't accept a backup role in Boston when he was playing starters minutes in New York. We don't even have enough to get him

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Re: Danilo Galinari?
« Reply #24 on: February 22, 2011, 03:23:17 PM »

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But yeah, there's nothing we can trade to land Gallinari.  We have no real assets, and most of our contracts have another year, meaning we're asking Denver to take on -- rather than shed -- salary.  It won't happen.


The only reason I even thought of it is if Denver is willing to immediately trade Danilo, that has to mean they're looking to go into rebuilding at warp speed.  That's means more trades in the future and picking up as many cheap, young players as possible.  A package centered on either Quis' expiring deal or Bradley, with a combination of Wafer, Erden and Luke and at least a 1st and a 2nd might make sense in context of the other moves Denver is looking to make.  But if the Clips are offering a T-pup 1st in 2012, I'm not sure there's anything to beat that.

Mike

This offer would be worthless to the Nuggets, Quis, wafer, erdan and luke does not include one piece that would be a starter now or in the future for the nuggets.  Our first would be one of the last of the round and is also not a building block. 

My point is that if they're going to immediately trade Danilo, they're not looking for starters.  They're looking to blow the whole thing up as quickly as they can.  I'd agree that what Boston can offer, unless it includes more than one 1st round pick, isn't very attractive in a vacuum.  But if Denver is, for example, also going to let K-Mart walk and try to trade Harrington, Birdman, Felton and possibly Nene so they can essentially start rebuilding next year, that might open the door a crack for Ainge.

Mike

Not really, we can barely get guys like Rasual Butler and Anthony Parker.  I like either of those guys, but we don't have the assets to not be laughed out of the room by denver
The reason we can barely get those guys is we aren't offering first round picks or even Big Baby.  If you are talking about a talented young player, I don't see any reason why Davis, 2011 first, and future first couldn't at least be a competative offer for someone like Gallinari.

Baby and 2 firsts is too much.  No one is going to give up a decent player and 2 firsts for Danilo, but Baby, a first and additional consideration would certainly get Boston in the discussion.  If you're just thinking about the future, you have to do that deal for Boston because Danilo's limitations are less absolute than Baby's.  But for this season, Ainge would be gambling any shot at a championship entirely on the health of Shaq and JO.

Mike
The first this year might as well be a second round pick given it is going to be around 28.  In fact many teams would rather just have a high second then the celtics first this year, since one is guaranteed money and the other is not.  If you just lottery protect the other pick for a few seasons, you can ensure it to won't be worth all that much as well. 

Davis is an ok player, but he has just about reached his peak.  The sky is the limit for Gallinari.  I would absolutely unload Davis and 2 firsts for Gallinari and wouldn't give it a second thought.
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Re: Danilo Galinari?
« Reply #25 on: February 22, 2011, 03:31:44 PM »

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If I were the Clippers I would give that Minny 2012...Gallo just fits what they need way too well. Legit three point shooter, can create his own shot, can get to the line. Would be tough to double team Griffin with Eric Gordon, Gallinari and Kaman as legitimate threats. Clipper curse or not, that would most likely make them a play-off team next year.

Re: Danilo Galinari?
« Reply #26 on: February 22, 2011, 03:34:05 PM »

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Tough here but I think I would trade BBD for him. Think he would be perfect playing 20-25 minutes off the bench. Although BBD plays a huge role as our backup PF/C right now. Don't fix whats not broken with him I guess. IDK this time of year makes me crazy! I want the Celtics to make a splash but then I don't.. I'm going crazy.

Re: Danilo Galinari?
« Reply #27 on: February 22, 2011, 03:47:15 PM »

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The first this year might as well be a second round pick given it is going to be around 28.  In fact many teams would rather just have a high second then the celtics first this year, since one is guaranteed money and the other is not.  If you just lottery protect the other pick for a few seasons, you can ensure it to won't be worth all that much as well. 


I've lost track of the 1st rounders we gave up for KG.  Can we trade a 1st in the upcoming draft or would Ainge be prohibited from doing that because you can't trade 1st round picks in consecutive years.  If it's possible, your deal makes a lot of sense.

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Re: Danilo Galinari?
« Reply #28 on: February 22, 2011, 03:56:57 PM »

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Rather have the Wolves pick.

Re: Danilo Galinari?
« Reply #29 on: February 22, 2011, 05:45:25 PM »

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I like Galinari, but we have zero chance of landing him.