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Re: BOS-WASH trade idea
« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2011, 05:33:55 PM »

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No Blatche.


1)  He doesn't listen to coaches.

2)  He doesn't play defense.

3)  As my workmate with Wizard season tickets says "when he sees Howard, he disappears from the paint."  He will not go inside when there is a strong inside presence.

4)  He admitted his game is soft on the radio. 

5)  He has patterned his game after Jamison minus the willingness to go inside sometimes. 



There is a reason a team as bad as the Wiz are so willing to dump a young big man. 

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Re: BOS-WASH trade idea
« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2011, 05:44:06 PM »

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Blatche is a potential guy not the final piece in the puzzle to a championship.  He is a taller Gerald Green type.  I would not mind him being a component of a deal but he can't be the center piece.  He is a man without a position or go to move and plays soft for his size.   I know a change helped Parrish a lot but this entails more risk.

I wouldn't compare him to Green. We're talking about a 24 year old 7 footer who is giving you 16/8 a night.

Were also talking about a guy who's been caught picking up hookers, openly admitted that he's soft, and quit on his coach and his teammates last year by refusing to go back into a game.  The wiz are a rebuilding that should be look to aquire young talent with potential, yet they're looking to deal this man away.  That's a giant red flag.  Ray Allen shouldn't even be in the same sentence with this man.  Ray has been a very coachable player his entire career.  Blatche has already shown he's not gonna listen to his coaches if they're gonna tell him something he doesn't like.

Like the one other poster said, if blatche is a small componet of the deal then that's fine, but when you're gonna make a trade where you give away a solid rotation player at a position you're thin at and are gonna have to count on andray blatche in return, then you're playing with fire.

In response to a few of your thoughts...

Blatche getting dominated by Howard isn't the worst thing in the world. How many PF's would not get dominated by Howard? In fact, how many centers would not get dominated by Howard?

Blatche has never said he was soft. I think that's putting words in his mouth. He said he was a "finesse player" and then said the following:

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"A finesse player is going to be called soft, so it don't bother me much. But I'm far from soft. Everybody's entitled to their own opinion."

My point on bring up Allen was to point out that sometimes a change of scenery is all a player needs to change public perception. Surely, you'd agree that Wafer has some a long way defensively. This despite his comments in the pre-season. Let's also not forget what his Greek coach said about him after he was cut by them:

 
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“If somebody is not eager to try to change himself, then it is better for him and the club to part ways.”


You can throw quotes at me all day, I heard Blatche himself say he's soft on 106.7 the fan down here in DC.

As for Ray Allen and Von Wafer,  I understood your comparison when you made it the first time, you just chose not to listen to why I dont agree with it.  If you can provide me with a link showing me that Ray Allen was an uncoachable  player throughout his career, same with Wafer, then hey, your comparison makes more sense.  Ray Allen has always been a team player, he just wasnt a great defender.  I understand that players SOMETIMES change in different environments, but in Andray Blatches case, theres no cure for stupid.

He's the wrong player to roll the dice with this season on
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Re: BOS-WASH trade idea
« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2011, 08:08:37 AM »

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there is no way in hell the C's are getting rid of baby before the end of the year.
ZERO chance.
I like this trade but we forget blatche and get heinrich and howard to back up rondo/ray/pierce for:
nate
JO contract
bradely or harangody
marquise

Hard to see wizards doing it though coz i can't see what they get.
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