Status of Quis

[Chris]

What I don't understand about this injury is that Marquis sustained the same last year in the ECF right? But he was able to play some (very) limited minutes in the Finals if my memory serves me right so why is he supposed to come back in months if he ever comes back? Tougher injury, or his body can't heal like before because of last year's antecedent?

Anyway I certainly hope he can come back in time but I don't think it will happen. Of course the most important thing for him is to stay alive but I hope his career (in Boston or elsewhere) is not over.

Looked the same, but I believe it was a different injury.  The injury last year was a concussion.  Which is certainly serious, but much more common and not nearly as dangerous (at least at the level he had it) than a bruised spinal cord, which is what it was this time.

[clover]

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/basketball/celtics/view.bg?articleid=1317403&format=text

Marquis Daniels continues the painstaking process of trying to function with a bruised spinal cord.

According to his agent, Mark Bartelstein, the C’s forward has met with three specialists, and had another meeting with team Dr. Brian McKeon yesterday.

“It’s too premature to get into what might happen,” said Bartelstein.

call me a pessimist if you like but I think if they had any good news they wouldn't have needed 4 opinions and would have said something positive by now

I'm assuming the worst (well, not the worst, just the worst from a basketball standpoint)

Yeah, I think that's right.
I think it is safe to assume Quis will not be back for the Cs.  Its unfortunate, because he was really coming on well this year.  I'd like to see the Cs try to swing a deal for Parker.  Could use Quis' contract, but will have to sweeten the deal...

If he does hang up his Reeboks (or whatever they are), I think it's nice at least that he came back and was playing so well this year, after his struggles last season.  A better way to face a forced early retirement.

[mmbaby]

What I find so hard is that Marquis had really just found his groove this year. He was finally becoming consistent and we were depending on him because of his excellent play this season.

It seems like his nba career is over and I will miss seeing him play so much. If he were to play again, he could become permanently paralyzed and it is not worth it.

I admire him as a man and as a player and this is a catastrophe in his life. My heart and prayers go out to him.

[CelticG1]

What I don't understand about this injury is that Marquis sustained the same last year in the ECF right? But he was able to play some (very) limited minutes in the Finals if my memory serves me right so why is he supposed to come back in months if he ever comes back? Tougher injury, or his body can't heal like before because of last year's antecedent?

Anyway I certainly hope he can come back in time but I don't think it will happen. Of course the most important thing for him is to stay alive but I hope his career (in Boston or elsewhere) is not over.

Looked the same, but I believe it was a different injury.  The injury last year was a concussion.  Which is certainly serious, but much more common and not nearly as dangerous (at least at the level he had it) than a bruised spinal cord, which is what it was this time.

From "Ask Dr. John" on CLNS:

Well, we have been informed that Marquis sustained a bruise to his spinal cord, something in technical terms is called a cervical spinal cord neuropraxia.  It typically occurs in high contact sports like football, but given the right circumstances, it could occur in any sport.  To understand it better, it is important to look at the anatomy of the spinal cord.  The spinal cord is really a bundle of nerves that allow us to feel, move, and in general, allow control from the brain to the rest of the body.  The cord itself is made of of soft tissue (nerves) surrounded by bone, also called the vertebral canal.  And in people who sustain the injury Marquis had, the vertebral canal is smaller than usual.   If the neck is wrenched in just the right way, the bony canal can pinch and bruise the spinal cord.   This mechanism is almost like experiencing a “total body pinched nerve”.  Similar to when one hits their “funny bone” except it involves the whole body.  Actual symptoms can range from feeling numb to feeling temporarily paralyzed.

The good news is that Marquis can recover from this injury.  The bad news is that he is at risk for a repeat injury if he wrenches his neck again.  The size of his vertebral canal is not changeable.  He is born with it.  And, in actuality, Marquis probably sustained a similar injury in the past which was thought to be a concussion.  There actually may be some physicians who might recommend he reconsiders going back to play.  It is definitely a serious injury, and the topic is much more complex than can be addressed in this article.  Either way, our best wishes are for Marquis.

http://celticslatenightshow.com/3478/boston-celtics/ask-dr-john-marquis-daniels-neck-injury/

This kinda leads me to believe that the concussion diagnosis could have been incorrect

[Chris]

What I don't understand about this injury is that Marquis sustained the same last year in the ECF right? But he was able to play some (very) limited minutes in the Finals if my memory serves me right so why is he supposed to come back in months if he ever comes back? Tougher injury, or his body can't heal like before because of last year's antecedent?

Anyway I certainly hope he can come back in time but I don't think it will happen. Of course the most important thing for him is to stay alive but I hope his career (in Boston or elsewhere) is not over.

Looked the same, but I believe it was a different injury.  The injury last year was a concussion.  Which is certainly serious, but much more common and not nearly as dangerous (at least at the level he had it) than a bruised spinal cord, which is what it was this time.

From "Ask Dr. John" on CLNS:

Well, we have been informed that Marquis sustained a bruise to his spinal cord, something in technical terms is called a cervical spinal cord neuropraxia.  It typically occurs in high contact sports like football, but given the right circumstances, it could occur in any sport.  To understand it better, it is important to look at the anatomy of the spinal cord.  The spinal cord is really a bundle of nerves that allow us to feel, move, and in general, allow control from the brain to the rest of the body.  The cord itself is made of of soft tissue (nerves) surrounded by bone, also called the vertebral canal.  And in people who sustain the injury Marquis had, the vertebral canal is smaller than usual.   If the neck is wrenched in just the right way, the bony canal can pinch and bruise the spinal cord.   This mechanism is almost like experiencing a “total body pinched nerve”.  Similar to when one hits their “funny bone” except it involves the whole body.  Actual symptoms can range from feeling numb to feeling temporarily paralyzed.

The good news is that Marquis can recover from this injury.  The bad news is that he is at risk for a repeat injury if he wrenches his neck again.  The size of his vertebral canal is not changeable.  He is born with it.  And, in actuality, Marquis probably sustained a similar injury in the past which was thought to be a concussion.  There actually may be some physicians who might recommend he reconsiders going back to play.  It is definitely a serious injury, and the topic is much more complex than can be addressed in this article.  Either way, our best wishes are for Marquis.

http://celticslatenightshow.com/3478/boston-celtics/ask-dr-john-marquis-daniels-neck-injury/

This kinda leads me to believe that the concussion diagnosis could have been incorrect

Well, it couldn't have been incorrect.  A concussion is a concussion.  They can see it on a CT Scan.  And I believe it was diagnosed as a concussion and announced by the C's as one, which they really cannot lie about for liability reasons.  But I agree that there was probably something related here.

While it was a different injury, I would imagine there is something about his anatomy that makes him especially prone to both injuries.  But last year, he did not have a bruised spinal cord.

[CelticG1]

What I don't understand about this injury is that Marquis sustained the same last year in the ECF right? But he was able to play some (very) limited minutes in the Finals if my memory serves me right so why is he supposed to come back in months if he ever comes back? Tougher injury, or his body can't heal like before because of last year's antecedent?

Anyway I certainly hope he can come back in time but I don't think it will happen. Of course the most important thing for him is to stay alive but I hope his career (in Boston or elsewhere) is not over.

Looked the same, but I believe it was a different injury.  The injury last year was a concussion.  Which is certainly serious, but much more common and not nearly as dangerous (at least at the level he had it) than a bruised spinal cord, which is what it was this time.

From "Ask Dr. John" on CLNS:

Well, we have been informed that Marquis sustained a bruise to his spinal cord, something in technical terms is called a cervical spinal cord neuropraxia.  It typically occurs in high contact sports like football, but given the right circumstances, it could occur in any sport.  To understand it better, it is important to look at the anatomy of the spinal cord.  The spinal cord is really a bundle of nerves that allow us to feel, move, and in general, allow control from the brain to the rest of the body.  The cord itself is made of of soft tissue (nerves) surrounded by bone, also called the vertebral canal.  And in people who sustain the injury Marquis had, the vertebral canal is smaller than usual.   If the neck is wrenched in just the right way, the bony canal can pinch and bruise the spinal cord.   This mechanism is almost like experiencing a “total body pinched nerve”.  Similar to when one hits their “funny bone” except it involves the whole body.  Actual symptoms can range from feeling numb to feeling temporarily paralyzed.

The good news is that Marquis can recover from this injury.  The bad news is that he is at risk for a repeat injury if he wrenches his neck again.  The size of his vertebral canal is not changeable.  He is born with it.  And, in actuality, Marquis probably sustained a similar injury in the past which was thought to be a concussion.  There actually may be some physicians who might recommend he reconsiders going back to play.  It is definitely a serious injury, and the topic is much more complex than can be addressed in this article.  Either way, our best wishes are for Marquis.

http://celticslatenightshow.com/3478/boston-celtics/ask-dr-john-marquis-daniels-neck-injury/

This kinda leads me to believe that the concussion diagnosis could have been incorrect

Well, it couldn't have been incorrect.  A concussion is a concussion.  They can see it on a CT Scan.  And I believe it was diagnosed as a concussion and announced by the C's as one, which they really cannot lie about for liability reasons.  But I agree that there was probably something related here.

While it was a different injury, I would imagine there is something about his anatomy that makes him especially prone to both injuries.  But last year, he did not have a bruised spinal cord.

I was thinking he could have been miss-diagnosed. But I don't know a whole lot about concussions. Obviously I don't think the medical staff was lying about something. It did look like the same exact thing happened to him on both plays though.

[Cman]

If he does hang up his Reeboks (or whatever they are), I think it's nice at least that he came back and was playing so well this year, after his struggles last season.  A better way to face a forced early retirement.

TP for a very thoughtful comment.

[Jon Niednagel]

What I don't understand about this injury is that Marquis sustained the same last year in the ECF right? But he was able to play some (very) limited minutes in the Finals if my memory serves me right so why is he supposed to come back in months if he ever comes back? Tougher injury, or his body can't heal like before because of last year's antecedent?

Anyway I certainly hope he can come back in time but I don't think it will happen. Of course the most important thing for him is to stay alive but I hope his career (in Boston or elsewhere) is not over.

Looked the same, but I believe it was a different injury.  The injury last year was a concussion.  Which is certainly serious, but much more common and not nearly as dangerous (at least at the level he had it) than a bruised spinal cord, which is what it was this time.

From "Ask Dr. John" on CLNS:

Well, we have been informed that Marquis sustained a bruise to his spinal cord, something in technical terms is called a cervical spinal cord neuropraxia.  It typically occurs in high contact sports like football, but given the right circumstances, it could occur in any sport.  To understand it better, it is important to look at the anatomy of the spinal cord.  The spinal cord is really a bundle of nerves that allow us to feel, move, and in general, allow control from the brain to the rest of the body.  The cord itself is made of of soft tissue (nerves) surrounded by bone, also called the vertebral canal.  And in people who sustain the injury Marquis had, the vertebral canal is smaller than usual.   If the neck is wrenched in just the right way, the bony canal can pinch and bruise the spinal cord.   This mechanism is almost like experiencing a “total body pinched nerve”.  Similar to when one hits their “funny bone” except it involves the whole body.  Actual symptoms can range from feeling numb to feeling temporarily paralyzed.

The good news is that Marquis can recover from this injury.  The bad news is that he is at risk for a repeat injury if he wrenches his neck again.  The size of his vertebral canal is not changeable.  He is born with it.  And, in actuality, Marquis probably sustained a similar injury in the past which was thought to be a concussion.  There actually may be some physicians who might recommend he reconsiders going back to play.  It is definitely a serious injury, and the topic is much more complex than can be addressed in this article.  Either way, our best wishes are for Marquis.

http://celticslatenightshow.com/3478/boston-celtics/ask-dr-john-marquis-daniels-neck-injury/

This kinda leads me to believe that the concussion diagnosis could have been incorrect

Well, it couldn't have been incorrect.  A concussion is a concussion.  They can see it on a CT Scan.  And I believe it was diagnosed as a concussion and announced by the C's as one, which they really cannot lie about for liability reasons.  But I agree that there was probably something related here.

While it was a different injury, I would imagine there is something about his anatomy that makes him especially prone to both injuries.  But last year, he did not have a bruised spinal cord.

Actually, you can't see a concussion from a CT, or a MRI for that matter. There may be some positive findings on neuroimaging from a moderate or severe traumatic brain injury, but those are different animals all together. A concussion, or uncomplicated mild TBI, is a behavioral diagnosis based on the duration of loss of consciousness or altered state of consciousness (among other things). It is very different from a spinal contusion, so I agree the likelihood of misdiagnosis is very low.

[Meadowlark_Scal]

OUT for the year......