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Status of Quis
« on: February 16, 2011, 11:24:58 PM »

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I've heard Ainge and Doc talk about the upcoming deadline and how "depending on Quis' status" their most important acquisition could be a back up SF.

Has anyone heard a real prognosis on Quis' injury? Are we going to get any more details on it soon. Ainge and Doc are talking like they don't really know what his situation is yet. It seems like a pretty good sign that he has already been attending games since the Magic game. Has he been rehabbing a bit or what? Are they waiting to see if he progresses at all?

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« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2011, 11:55:36 PM »

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You do realize he injured his spinal cord right?  It wasn't enough to cause full or partial paralysis but it is quite a serious issue.  There is no way to repair a damaged spinal cord.  It's more precaution than anything which is why they don't know when he can come back. 

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« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2011, 08:23:50 AM »

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You do realize he injured his spinal cord right?  It wasn't enough to cause full or partial paralysis but it is quite a serious issue.  There is no way to repair a damaged spinal cord.  It's more precaution than anything which is why they don't know when he can come back. 

Well the original prognosis was 1 to 2 months. Haven't heard an update since then. What exactly did he do to his spinal cord? You said you can't repair it but what does that mean? Is he going to be able to play basketball again? I'm not a doctor so any helpful information you could provide would be awesome

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« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2011, 08:30:40 AM »

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http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/basketball/celtics/view.bg?articleid=1317403&format=text

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Marquis Daniels continues the painstaking process of trying to function with a bruised spinal cord.

According to his agent, Mark Bartelstein, the C’s forward has met with three specialists, and had another meeting with team Dr. Brian McKeon yesterday.

“It’s too premature to get into what might happen,” said Bartelstein.

call me a pessimist if you like but I think if they had any good news they wouldn't have needed 4 opinions and would have said something positive by now

I'm assuming the worst (well, not the worst, just the worst from a basketball standpoint)
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« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2011, 08:33:15 AM »

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From "Ask Dr. John" on CLNS:

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Well, we have been informed that Marquis sustained a bruise to his spinal cord, something in technical terms is called a cervical spinal cord neuropraxia.  It typically occurs in high contact sports like football, but given the right circumstances, it could occur in any sport.  To understand it better, it is important to look at the anatomy of the spinal cord.  The spinal cord is really a bundle of nerves that allow us to feel, move, and in general, allow control from the brain to the rest of the body.  The cord itself is made of of soft tissue (nerves) surrounded by bone, also called the vertebral canal.  And in people who sustain the injury Marquis had, the vertebral canal is smaller than usual.   If the neck is wrenched in just the right way, the bony canal can pinch and bruise the spinal cord.   This mechanism is almost like experiencing a “total body pinched nerve”.  Similar to when one hits their “funny bone” except it involves the whole body.  Actual symptoms can range from feeling numb to feeling temporarily paralyzed.

The good news is that Marquis can recover from this injury.  The bad news is that he is at risk for a repeat injury if he wrenches his neck again.  The size of his vertebral canal is not changeable.  He is born with it.  And, in actuality, Marquis probably sustained a similar injury in the past which was thought to be a concussion.  There actually may be some physicians who might recommend he reconsiders going back to play.  It is definitely a serious injury, and the topic is much more complex than can be addressed in this article.  Either way, our best wishes are for Marquis.

http://celticslatenightshow.com/3478/boston-celtics/ask-dr-john-marquis-daniels-neck-injury/

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« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2011, 08:39:02 AM »

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From "Ask Dr. John" on CLNS:

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Well, we have been informed that Marquis sustained a bruise to his spinal cord, something in technical terms is called a cervical spinal cord neuropraxia.  It typically occurs in high contact sports like football, but given the right circumstances, it could occur in any sport.  To understand it better, it is important to look at the anatomy of the spinal cord.  The spinal cord is really a bundle of nerves that allow us to feel, move, and in general, allow control from the brain to the rest of the body.  The cord itself is made of of soft tissue (nerves) surrounded by bone, also called the vertebral canal.  And in people who sustain the injury Marquis had, the vertebral canal is smaller than usual.   If the neck is wrenched in just the right way, the bony canal can pinch and bruise the spinal cord.   This mechanism is almost like experiencing a “total body pinched nerve”.  Similar to when one hits their “funny bone” except it involves the whole body.  Actual symptoms can range from feeling numb to feeling temporarily paralyzed.

The good news is that Marquis can recover from this injury.  The bad news is that he is at risk for a repeat injury if he wrenches his neck again.  The size of his vertebral canal is not changeable.  He is born with it.  And, in actuality, Marquis probably sustained a similar injury in the past which was thought to be a concussion.  There actually may be some physicians who might recommend he reconsiders going back to play.  It is definitely a serious injury, and the topic is much more complex than can be addressed in this article.  Either way, our best wishes are for Marquis.

http://celticslatenightshow.com/3478/boston-celtics/ask-dr-john-marquis-daniels-neck-injury/

So basically in the Orlando series last year he probably had the same injury and it was diagnosed as a concussion? That sucks

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« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2011, 08:50:18 AM »

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From "Ask Dr. John" on CLNS:

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Well, we have been informed that Marquis sustained a bruise to his spinal cord, something in technical terms is called a cervical spinal cord neuropraxia.  It typically occurs in high contact sports like football, but given the right circumstances, it could occur in any sport.  To understand it better, it is important to look at the anatomy of the spinal cord.  The spinal cord is really a bundle of nerves that allow us to feel, move, and in general, allow control from the brain to the rest of the body.  The cord itself is made of of soft tissue (nerves) surrounded by bone, also called the vertebral canal.  And in people who sustain the injury Marquis had, the vertebral canal is smaller than usual.   If the neck is wrenched in just the right way, the bony canal can pinch and bruise the spinal cord.   This mechanism is almost like experiencing a “total body pinched nerve”.  Similar to when one hits their “funny bone” except it involves the whole body.  Actual symptoms can range from feeling numb to feeling temporarily paralyzed.

The good news is that Marquis can recover from this injury.  The bad news is that he is at risk for a repeat injury if he wrenches his neck again.  The size of his vertebral canal is not changeable.  He is born with it.  And, in actuality, Marquis probably sustained a similar injury in the past which was thought to be a concussion.  There actually may be some physicians who might recommend he reconsiders going back to play.  It is definitely a serious injury, and the topic is much more complex than can be addressed in this article.  Either way, our best wishes are for Marquis.

http://celticslatenightshow.com/3478/boston-celtics/ask-dr-john-marquis-daniels-neck-injury/

Great link.  Really describes the injury quite well.  Also, I kind of had a suspicion that his injury was something along those lines (just a hunch, I am by no means a doctor).

It seems to me, the injury itself can be easily enough recovered from, based on the severity of Quisy's actual injury.  The problem is Quisy is at substantial risk of sustaining the same injury again, only next time it could possibly be worse.  He really has a lot to think about in regards to his future.  Playing basketball should not be at the top of his priority list.  Long-term well being should be.

I would love to see Quisy make it back, but not at the expense of his future well being.  That is just selfish.  If it is determined, hopefully soon, he cannot or should not come back this season, as crass as it might sound, the C's need to move on.

The C's have a glaring hole at the back-up SF, and need to do what is in the best interest of the team.  This is not to say it cannot be done in a tactful manner, just quickly.  The season ain't getting any younger.

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« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2011, 09:00:45 AM »

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TP KGsKnee! I wrote this and was about to post it when I saw yours. Pretty much what I was thinking:

I personally think he is done playing basketball for a living.

From a selfish Cs fan standpoint, I hope he shakes it off and comes back and plays to the level he was playing at before the injury. From a realistic standpoint based on past performance (last year) psychologically and physically I don't think it's going to happen or should happen.

I don't know Quis' personal $$$ situation, but if he is comfortable financially, he should walk away while he can still walk. I know that is an intensely personal decision for him and his family to deal with. Maybe he's willing to risk permanent, crippling damage in order to have his family be financially secure, if they already aren't. That's up to him.

Given his style of play, which is predicated on driving to the hoop and scoring in the paint, and given his proclivity for this type of injury, I wish him and his family much luck.

Whatever he decides, let's get him a ring in June!!

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« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2011, 09:11:53 AM »

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TP KGsKnee! I wrote this and was about to post it when I saw yours. Pretty much what I was thinking:

I personally think he is done playing basketball for a living.

From a selfish Cs fan standpoint, I hope he shakes it off and comes back and plays to the level he was playing at before the injury. From a realistic standpoint based on past performance (last year) psychologically and physically I don't think it's going to happen or should happen.

I don't know Quis' personal $$$ situation, but if he is comfortable financially, he should walk away while he can still walk. I know that is an intensely personal decision for him and his family to deal with. Maybe he's willing to risk permanent, crippling damage in order to have his family be financially secure, if they already aren't. That's up to him.

Given his style of play, which is predicated on driving to the hoop and scoring in the paint, and given his proclivity for this type of injury, I wish him and his family much luck.

Whatever he decides, let's get him a ring in June!!

Pretty sure he took less money to play for us last year. He had a one year contract and many thought he was trying to go with the James Posey route. Then he signed another 1 year low salary contract with us this year. Not sure how much money he really has. He's still a pretty young guy

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« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2011, 09:12:38 AM »

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http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/basketball/celtics/view.bg?articleid=1317403&format=text

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Marquis Daniels continues the painstaking process of trying to function with a bruised spinal cord.

According to his agent, Mark Bartelstein, the C’s forward has met with three specialists, and had another meeting with team Dr. Brian McKeon yesterday.

“It’s too premature to get into what might happen,” said Bartelstein.

call me a pessimist if you like but I think if they had any good news they wouldn't have needed 4 opinions and would have said something positive by now

I'm assuming the worst (well, not the worst, just the worst from a basketball standpoint)

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I think it is safe to assume Quis will not be back for the Cs.  Its unfortunate, because he was really coming on well this year.  I'd like to see the Cs try to swing a deal for Parker.  Could use Quis' contract, but will have to sweeten the deal...
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« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2011, 09:16:09 AM »

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When I first read the thread title I thought it said "statue of Quis" and I thought to myself, "this seems a little presumptive, lets work on getting Bill Russell his statue first."

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« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2011, 10:01:01 AM »

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He has already had a history of back and neck injuries according to these articles.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/600528-marquis-daniels-injury-could-give-a-few-unlikely-faces-a-chance-to-contribute

http://celticslatenightshow.com/3478/boston-celtics/ask-dr-john-marquis-daniels-neck-injury/

So he was willing to take a risk before.  Personally, I hope he hangs up the sneakers.  Dying ain't worth playing or all the money in the world. I've seen us lose Bias and Lewis and that is enough for a lifetime.

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« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2011, 10:25:52 AM »

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They have been scrambling over the last week to set up meetings with specialists to get a diagnosis.  Things do not look good for Daniels coming back this season.  At this point, I think they are trying to decide whether they want to consider cutting him/trading him, if there really is no chance he will be back. 

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This whole thread is sad....

Regardless of basketball stuff, I hope Quis can be healthy at some point and return to doing what he loves.

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« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2011, 01:10:07 PM »

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What I don't understand about this injury is that Marquis sustained the same last year in the ECF right? But he was able to play some (very) limited minutes in the Finals if my memory serves me right so why is he supposed to come back in months if he ever comes back? Tougher injury, or his body can't heal like before because of last year's antecedent?

Anyway I certainly hope he can come back in time but I don't think it will happen. Of course the most important thing for him is to stay alive but I hope his career (in Boston or elsewhere) is not over.