What's up with all the Lebron threads and vitriol

[barefacedmonk]

There are plenty of reasons to dislike him...referring to himself in the third person, the decision, self appointed king, Check out my $tat$ tees, an ego that can easily dwarf this earth....there are too many reasons to list.

What's to like about him? Besides the fact that he is a very good basketball player, I see no endearing quality in him.

[indeedproceed]

Really?

It LeBron, he's given NBA fans plenty of reason not to like him.

As for not disrespecting Boston, have you seen his jersey number and heard why he changed it to that?

He changed it as a way to honor his childhood idol, Jordan.  He changed it to number 6 to honor the birth of his first son (it was the day he was born) and it is why he wanted that number in the Olympics.  Thinking him changing his number to 6 is a slight to Bill or the city of Boston is exactly the lunacy I'm referring to. 

  Haha. You can't see the humor in a player who stops wearing a number because a great player wore that number switching to Bill Russell's number? I think lunacy is a bit strong. I mean the guy's always saying stupid things. I'm sure there are bigger knuckleheads in the NBA but those guys aren't worshiped by espn so there's something of a "tree falling in the forest" effect.

There are plenty of great players and plenty of great players wore plenty of numbers (Dr. J also wore number 6).  Lebron James only has one basketball hero and that man wore the number 23 and pretty much every basketball fan Lebron's age grew up idolizing and wanting to be Michael Jordan.  He was an entire generations basketball hero, because it was pretty much just him in that generation.

This I don't get. I don't think it makes any real sense as a defense at all...so by honoring Jordan, he went to another number so #23 could be retired, but then he chose #6. He knew it was Russell's number. But he took it anyways.

This would be like if in 10 years, a hotshot young slugger for the Minnesota twins decided he didn't want to wear #5 anymore to honor albert pujols, so he decided to switch to number 42.

It would be like if in 20 years a young versatile running back decided he would not wear number 7 anymore as a tribute to michael vick, but would rather wear number 32.

I can go on.

there is nothing wrong with honoring jordan, but going to Russell's number and saying that's something different because LeBron didn't grow up watching Russell is kind of silly.

EDIT: I mean its not like I can pretend WWII didn't matter because I was born in 83, or that I can pretend there was never a roman empire because I wasn't born 1,000 years ago. History matters, and as LeBron tried to show he understood that, he showed he has only a concept of history as it applies to him..which is why I personally dislike him..because he treats everything else in the world like he treats history..it only applies in the way it relates to him.

[Moranis]

Really?

It LeBron, he's given NBA fans plenty of reason not to like him.

As for not disrespecting Boston, have you seen his jersey number and heard why he changed it to that?

He changed it as a way to honor his childhood idol, Jordan.  He changed it to number 6 to honor the birth of his first son (it was the day he was born) and it is why he wanted that number in the Olympics.  Thinking him changing his number to 6 is a slight to Bill or the city of Boston is exactly the lunacy I'm referring to.  

he may have not did it to slight Boston, but it shows complete ignorance for the game and its history. That in of itself is reason to bash him.

Tell me this, what has he done to make us not bash him?

No it doesn't and no it isn't.  Honoring the birth of his son is bash worthy now.  I mean did you really just say that.  And for the record an number he chose would have been represented by an all time great.  1 Oscar Robertson, 2 Moses Malone, etc.  If he chose 13 (Wilt) would you be saying the same things?  And sure they maybe aren't all as great as Bill, but they are still all great in their own respect.

And why bash him, why not just enjoy watching an all time great player play in his prime.  And seriously there are plenty of reasons to lik and respect him.  He works incredibly hard.  He takes great care of his body.  He studies the game.  He isn't dirty.  He has improved every year he has been in the league and is constantly working on his deficiencies.  From a pure basketball stand point he is what every great player should be.  And sure he is arrogant, but all brilliant and uber successful people are arrogant, it is part of the reason they are successful as they are.

[Moranis]

Really?

It LeBron, he's given NBA fans plenty of reason not to like him.

As for not disrespecting Boston, have you seen his jersey number and heard why he changed it to that?

He changed it as a way to honor his childhood idol, Jordan.  He changed it to number 6 to honor the birth of his first son (it was the day he was born) and it is why he wanted that number in the Olympics.  Thinking him changing his number to 6 is a slight to Bill or the city of Boston is exactly the lunacy I'm referring to.  

  Haha. You can't see the humor in a player who stops wearing a number because a great player wore that number switching to Bill Russell's number? I think lunacy is a bit strong. I mean the guy's always saying stupid things. I'm sure there are bigger knuckleheads in the NBA but those guys aren't worshiped by espn so there's something of a "tree falling in the forest" effect.

There are plenty of great players and plenty of great players wore plenty of numbers (Dr. J also wore number 6).  Lebron James only has one basketball hero and that man wore the number 23 and pretty much every basketball fan Lebron's age grew up idolizing and wanting to be Michael Jordan.  He was an entire generations basketball hero, because it was pretty much just him in that generation.

This I don't get. I don't think it makes any real sense as a defense at all...so by honoring Jordan, he went to another number so #23 could be retired, but then he chose #6. He knew it was Russell's number. But he took it anyways.

This would be like if in 10 years, a hotshot young slugger for the Minnesota twins decided he didn't want to wear #5 anymore to honor albert pujols, so he decided to switch to number 42.

It would be like if in 20 years a young versatile running back decided he would not wear number 7 anymore as a tribute to michael vick, but would rather wear number 32.

I can go on.

there is nothing wrong with honoring jordan, but going to Russell's number and saying that's something different because LeBron didn't grow up watching Jordan is kind of silly.

His son was born on the 6th, which is why he chose that number.

What number should have selected.  How about 13 or wait that is Wilt.  How about 1 or wait that is Oscar.  How about 33 or wait that is Kareem (notice I went with Kareem because he had it first, doesn't Larry have any respect for the history of the game).  Maybe 32 or wait Magic.  And you could go on and on. 

The man only had 1 hero and that was Michael Jordan.

[BballTim]

Really?

It LeBron, he's given NBA fans plenty of reason not to like him.

As for not disrespecting Boston, have you seen his jersey number and heard why he changed it to that?

He changed it as a way to honor his childhood idol, Jordan.  He changed it to number 6 to honor the birth of his first son (it was the day he was born) and it is why he wanted that number in the Olympics.  Thinking him changing his number to 6 is a slight to Bill or the city of Boston is exactly the lunacy I'm referring to.  

  Haha. You can't see the humor in a player who stops wearing a number because a great player wore that number switching to Bill Russell's number? I think lunacy is a bit strong. I mean the guy's always saying stupid things. I'm sure there are bigger knuckleheads in the NBA but those guys aren't worshiped by espn so there's something of a "tree falling in the forest" effect.

There are plenty of great players and plenty of great players wore plenty of numbers (Dr. J also wore number 6).  Lebron James only has one basketball hero and that man wore the number 23 and pretty much every basketball fan Lebron's age grew up idolizing and wanting to be Michael Jordan.  He was an entire generations basketball hero, because it was pretty much just him in that generation.

  He said the entire league should stop wearing Jordan's number.

[indeedproceed]

Really?

It LeBron, he's given NBA fans plenty of reason not to like him.

As for not disrespecting Boston, have you seen his jersey number and heard why he changed it to that?

He changed it as a way to honor his childhood idol, Jordan.  He changed it to number 6 to honor the birth of his first son (it was the day he was born) and it is why he wanted that number in the Olympics.  Thinking him changing his number to 6 is a slight to Bill or the city of Boston is exactly the lunacy I'm referring to.  

  Haha. You can't see the humor in a player who stops wearing a number because a great player wore that number switching to Bill Russell's number? I think lunacy is a bit strong. I mean the guy's always saying stupid things. I'm sure there are bigger knuckleheads in the NBA but those guys aren't worshiped by espn so there's something of a "tree falling in the forest" effect.

There are plenty of great players and plenty of great players wore plenty of numbers (Dr. J also wore number 6).  Lebron James only has one basketball hero and that man wore the number 23 and pretty much every basketball fan Lebron's age grew up idolizing and wanting to be Michael Jordan.  He was an entire generations basketball hero, because it was pretty much just him in that generation.

This I don't get. I don't think it makes any real sense as a defense at all...so by honoring Jordan, he went to another number so #23 could be retired, but then he chose #6. He knew it was Russell's number. But he took it anyways.

This would be like if in 10 years, a hotshot young slugger for the Minnesota twins decided he didn't want to wear #5 anymore to honor albert pujols, so he decided to switch to number 42.

It would be like if in 20 years a young versatile running back decided he would not wear number 7 anymore as a tribute to michael vick, but would rather wear number 32.

I can go on.

there is nothing wrong with honoring jordan, but going to Russell's number and saying that's something different because LeBron didn't grow up watching Jordan is kind of silly.

His son was born on the 6th, which is why he chose that number.

What number should have selected.  How about 13 or wait that is Wilt.  How about 1 or wait that is Oscar.  How about 33 or wait that is Kareem (notice I went with Kareem because he had it first, doesn't Larry have any respect for the history of the game).  Maybe 32 or wait Magic.  And you could go on and on.  

The man only had 1 hero and that was Michael Jordan.

Magic, Wilt, Oscar, whoever...none of those guys are Bill Russell.

[angryguy77]

Really?

It LeBron, he's given NBA fans plenty of reason not to like him.

As for not disrespecting Boston, have you seen his jersey number and heard why he changed it to that?

He changed it as a way to honor his childhood idol, Jordan.  He changed it to number 6 to honor the birth of his first son (it was the day he was born) and it is why he wanted that number in the Olympics.  Thinking him changing his number to 6 is a slight to Bill or the city of Boston is exactly the lunacy I'm referring to.  

  Haha. You can't see the humor in a player who stops wearing a number because a great player wore that number switching to Bill Russell's number? I think lunacy is a bit strong. I mean the guy's always saying stupid things. I'm sure there are bigger knuckleheads in the NBA but those guys aren't worshiped by espn so there's something of a "tree falling in the forest" effect.

There are plenty of great players and plenty of great players wore plenty of numbers (Dr. J also wore number 6).  Lebron James only has one basketball hero and that man wore the number 23 and pretty much every basketball fan Lebron's age grew up idolizing and wanting to be Michael Jordan.  He was an entire generations basketball hero, because it was pretty much just him in that generation.

Quote from Leroid

"I just think what Michael Jordan has done for the game has to be recognized some way soon," James said. "There would be no LeBron James(notes), no Kobe Bryant(notes), no Dwyane Wade(notes) if there wasn't Michael Jordan first.


"He can't get the logo, and if he can't, something has to be done. I feel like no NBA player should wear 23. I'm starting a petition, and I've got to get everyone in the NBA to sign it. Now, if I'm not going to wear No. 23, then nobody else should be able to wear it."

His exclusion of Russel rubbed a lot of us here the wrong way. I believe there was a thread titled "james thinks the nba started abter 1985" or something like that.


Not ot mention he's imo overrated and gets better treatment from the offcials than Jordan ever did.

[LB3533]

I think Lebron has accomplished a lot in his early career with the least amount of talent around him.

He's taken his team to the Finals with no clear #2 star by his side.

He's led his team to the most Wins in the regular season on multiple instances.

When Lebron starts winning chips, he'll be more loved than the version of Kobe Bryant that didn't sexually assault someone.

[incoherent]

The guy is in our conference and has verbally claimed the next 7 championships.

I dislike him a lot, and get enjoyment when he speaks because it's always something so dumb he has to retract it.

[Roy H.]

Something had to take the place of all the vitriolic KG threads.

[BballTim]

I think Lebron has accomplished a lot in his early career with the least amount of talent around him.

He's taken his team to the Finals with no clear #2 star by his side.

He's led his team to the most Wins in the regular season on multiple instances.

When Lebron starts winning chips, he'll be more loved than the version of Kobe Bryant that didn't sexually assault someone.

  Sidekick Kobe?

[angryguy77]

Really?

It LeBron, he's given NBA fans plenty of reason not to like him.

As for not disrespecting Boston, have you seen his jersey number and heard why he changed it to that?

He changed it as a way to honor his childhood idol, Jordan.  He changed it to number 6 to honor the birth of his first son (it was the day he was born) and it is why he wanted that number in the Olympics.  Thinking him changing his number to 6 is a slight to Bill or the city of Boston is exactly the lunacy I'm referring to.  

he may have not did it to slight Boston, but it shows complete ignorance for the game and its history. That in of itself is reason to bash him.

Tell me this, what has he done to make us not bash him?

No it doesn't and no it isn't.  Honoring the birth of his son is bash worthy now.  I mean did you really just say that.  And for the record an number he chose would have been represented by an all time great.  1 Oscar Robertson, 2 Moses Malone, etc.  If he chose 13 (Wilt) would you be saying the same things?  And sure they maybe aren't all as great as Bill, but they are still all great in their own respect.

And why bash him, why not just enjoy watching an all time great player play in his prime.  And seriously there are plenty of reasons to lik and respect him.  He works incredibly hard.  He takes great care of his body.  He studies the game.  He isn't dirty.  He has improved every year he has been in the league and is constantly working on his deficiencies.  From a pure basketball stand point he is what every great player should be.  And sure he is arrogant, but all brilliant and uber successful people are arrogant, it is part of the reason they are successful as they are.

You would make a great heat fan.

[Moranis]

Something had to take the place of all the vitriolic KG threads.

touche

[dark_lord]

the dude is an egocentric, entitled, arrogant jackass.....and thats in relationship to his nba peers!

he deserves the hate

[Moranis]

There are plenty of great players and plenty of great players wore plenty of numbers (Dr. J also wore number 6).  Lebron James only has one basketball hero and that man wore the number 23 and pretty much every basketball fan Lebron's age grew up idolizing and wanting to be Michael Jordan.  He was an entire generations basketball hero, because it was pretty much just him in that generation.

This I don't get. I don't think it makes any real sense as a defense at all...so by honoring Jordan, he went to another number so #23 could be retired, but then he chose #6. He knew it was Russell's number. But he took it anyways.

This would be like if in 10 years, a hotshot young slugger for the Minnesota twins decided he didn't want to wear #5 anymore to honor albert pujols, so he decided to switch to number 42.

It would be like if in 20 years a young versatile running back decided he would not wear number 7 anymore as a tribute to michael vick, but would rather wear number 32.

I can go on.

there is nothing wrong with honoring jordan, but going to Russell's number and saying that's something different because LeBron didn't grow up watching Jordan is kind of silly.

His son was born on the 6th, which is why he chose that number.

What number should have selected.  How about 13 or wait that is Wilt.  How about 1 or wait that is Oscar.  How about 33 or wait that is Kareem (notice I went with Kareem because he had it first, doesn't Larry have any respect for the history of the game).  Maybe 32 or wait Magic.  And you could go on and on.  

The man only had 1 hero and that was Michael Jordan.

Magic, Wilt, Oscar, whoever...none of those guys are Bill Russell.

According to most experts 2 of those 3 are greater players then Bill.  Lebron choosing #6 was not a knock on Bill or Dr. J or any of the other players that have worn the #6.