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Re: Tony Allen has 27 Points in an overtime (game) against Thunder
« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2011, 11:47:30 AM »

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imagine if tony never got injured in the 06-07 season. i'd say games like this wouldn't be as surprising...
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Re: Tony Allen has 27 Points in an overtime (game) against Thunder
« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2011, 11:54:52 AM »

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Before all the Tony Allen fanatics start coming out of the closet and professing what a mistake it was to lose Tony and how great Tony can be when given minutes lets remember a few points:

1. The last time Tony Allen scored over 20 points in a game was on 11/9/2008 against a Detroit team that had just traded away Chauncey Billups and added Allen Iverson and was in complete disarray.

2. Scoring is not Tony Allen's game.

3. In this GREAT defensive game he had last night he held Kevin Durant to 2 point OVER his scoring average of 29 PPG and 1 percent point OVER his average FG%.

4. The ONLY reason he is on the court starting is because Rudy Gay and OJ Mayo aren't playing at the moment.


Re: Tony Allen has 27 Points in an overtime (game) against Thunder
« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2011, 12:01:29 PM »

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So, a good game does not a great career make.  There is a reason Paul, Ray, KG, Kobe, etc. are stars & Tony isn't.  They do it consistently.  Tony can't consistently put together the kind of game to be the 6th man.
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Re: Tony Allen has 27 Points in an overtime (game) against Thunder
« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2011, 12:07:24 PM »

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I will always wish the best for Tony. Good for him. But does not make me miss him too much. Of course the loss of MQ makes this sting just a little.

Re: Tony Allen has 27 Points in an overtime (game) against Thunder
« Reply #19 on: February 09, 2011, 12:07:30 PM »

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[dang] it just like Tim Duncan we let Tony get away
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Re: Tony Allen has 27 Points in an overtime (game) against Thunder
« Reply #20 on: February 09, 2011, 12:07:33 PM »

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If we hadn't been bitten seriously by the injury bug, we wouldn't be talking about Tony Allen. I wish him luck but we don't need him.

Re: Tony Allen has 27 Points in an overtime (game) against Thunder
« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2011, 12:09:01 PM »

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Before all the Tony Allen fanatics start coming out of the closet and professing what a mistake it was to lose Tony and how great Tony can be when given minutes lets remember a few points:

1. The last time Tony Allen scored over 20 points in a game was on 11/9/2008 against a Detroit team that had just traded away Chauncey Billups and added Allen Iverson and was in complete disarray.

2. Scoring is not Tony Allen's game.

3. In this GREAT defensive game he had last night he held Kevin Durant to 2 point OVER his scoring average of 29 PPG and 1 percent point OVER his average FG%.

4. The ONLY reason he is on the court starting is because Rudy Gay and OJ Mayo aren't playing at the moment.



Sorry, but I've been saying this since he left.  We are going to miss out on his best years.  Most players best years are when they are in their prime and that's where Tony is now.  And we don't need him to score a bunch, but he can score.  We needed him for his defense.  

I remember him replacing OJ Mayo when OJ was playing terrible for a stretch.  Tony is with a new team and it's reasonable to think that it would take him some time to learn the new system.  He's learning it and is balling right now.
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Re: Tony Allen has 27 Points in an overtime (game) against Thunder
« Reply #22 on: February 09, 2011, 12:09:55 PM »

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If we hadn't been bitten seriously by the injury bug, we wouldn't be talking about Tony Allen. I wish him luck but we don't need him.

Sorry, but I've also been saying that we might not get by the Lakers or Miami if we don't have a wing defender.
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Re: Tony Allen has 27 Points in an overtime (game) against Thunder
« Reply #23 on: February 09, 2011, 12:10:56 PM »

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So, a good game does not a great career make.  There is a reason Paul, Ray, KG, Kobe, etc. are stars & Tony isn't.  They do it consistently.  Tony can't consistently put together the kind of game to be the 6th man.

Who said Tony was a star?  
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Re: Tony Allen has 27 Points in an overtime (game) against Thunder
« Reply #24 on: February 09, 2011, 12:14:10 PM »

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If we hadn't been bitten seriously by the injury bug, we wouldn't be talking about Tony Allen. I wish him luck but we don't need him.

Sorry, but I've also been saying that we might not get by the Lakers or Miami if we don't have a wing defender.

You mean this year's MIA and LA?

Aren't we like 3-0 vs these two this year? And soon to be 4-0 after we beat LA tomorrow night?

Without TA?

I miss TA as well, but he left on his own terms, whatever they were.

After all, Marquis was playing so well this season that we had all forgotten about TA.

Until Marquis went down.

I believe that Delonte will help us at the 3 in some cases. We'll be ok. And Marquis will be back by March - just in time for our playoff run to June.

Re: Tony Allen has 27 Points in an overtime (game) against Thunder
« Reply #25 on: February 09, 2011, 12:24:21 PM »

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If we hadn't been bitten seriously by the injury bug, we wouldn't be talking about Tony Allen. I wish him luck but we don't need him.

Sorry, but I've also been saying that we might not get by the Lakers or Miami if we don't have a wing defender.

You mean this year's MIA and LA?

Aren't we like 3-0 vs these two this year? And soon to be 4-0 after we beat LA tomorrow night?

Without TA?

I miss TA as well, but he left on his own terms, whatever they were.

After all, Marquis was playing so well this season that we had all forgotten about TA.

Until Marquis went down.

I believe that Delonte will help us at the 3 in some cases. We'll be ok. And Marquis will be back by March - just in time for our playoff run to June.

  I think it's way too soon to predict Marquis coming back.

Re: Tony Allen has 27 Points in an overtime (game) against Thunder
« Reply #26 on: February 09, 2011, 12:30:28 PM »

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If we hadn't been bitten seriously by the injury bug, we wouldn't be talking about Tony Allen. I wish him luck but we don't need him.

Sorry, but I've also been saying that we might not get by the Lakers or Miami if we don't have a wing defender.

You mean this year's MIA and LA?

Aren't we like 3-0 vs these two this year? And soon to be 4-0 after we beat LA tomorrow night?

Without TA?

I miss TA as well, but he left on his own terms, whatever they were.

After all, Marquis was playing so well this season that we had all forgotten about TA.

Until Marquis went down.

I believe that Delonte will help us at the 3 in some cases. We'll be ok. And Marquis will be back by March - just in time for our playoff run to June.

  I think it's way too soon to predict Marquis coming back.

You're right. But I think that Delonte can spell a little bit at the SF spot.

Hopefully Wafer can provide some time there, too?

Re: Tony Allen has 27 Points in an overtime (game) against Thunder
« Reply #27 on: February 09, 2011, 12:37:28 PM »

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imagine if tony never got injured in the 06-07 season. i'd say games like this wouldn't be as surprising...

I think in that coulda/woulda/shoulda scenario he would have been included in the KG trade.
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Re: Tony Allen has 27 Points in an overtime (game) against Thunder
« Reply #28 on: February 09, 2011, 12:37:47 PM »

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Before all the Tony Allen fanatics start coming out of the closet and professing what a mistake it was to lose Tony and how great Tony can be when given minutes lets remember a few points:

1. The last time Tony Allen scored over 20 points in a game was on 11/9/2008 against a Detroit team that had just traded away Chauncey Billups and added Allen Iverson and was in complete disarray.

2. Scoring is not Tony Allen's game.

3. In this GREAT defensive game he had last night he held Kevin Durant to 2 point OVER his scoring average of 29 PPG and 1 percent point OVER his average FG%.

4. The ONLY reason he is on the court starting is because Rudy Gay and OJ Mayo aren't playing at the moment.



Sorry, but I've been saying this since he left.  We are going to miss out on his best years.  Most players best years are when they are in their prime and that's where Tony is now.  And we don't need him to score a bunch, but he can score.  We needed him for his defense.  

I remember him replacing OJ Mayo when OJ was playing terrible for a stretch.  Tony is with a new team and it's reasonable to think that it would take him some time to learn the new system.  He's learning it and is balling right now.

TA needed to go and I'm glad he's gone. You shutdown his drive to the hoop and he has no game. He was good defensively I'm not arguing that but I just remember watching games where he couldn't get to the hoop and it was like 5 on 4. We're missing his prime years? I'm okay with that.
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Re: Tony Allen has 27 Points in an overtime (game) against Thunder
« Reply #29 on: February 09, 2011, 12:40:22 PM »

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If we hadn't been bitten seriously by the injury bug, we wouldn't be talking about Tony Allen. I wish him luck but we don't need him.

Sorry, but I've also been saying that we might not get by the Lakers or Miami if we don't have a wing defender.

You mean this year's MIA and LA?

Aren't we like 3-0 vs these two this year? And soon to be 4-0 after we beat LA tomorrow night?

Without TA?

I miss TA as well, but he left on his own terms, whatever they were.

After all, Marquis was playing so well this season that we had all forgotten about TA.

Until Marquis went down.

I believe that Delonte will help us at the 3 in some cases. We'll be ok. And Marquis will be back by March - just in time for our playoff run to June.

I was sure Marquis was going to go down at some point, he always does.  I'm not the only one that wasn't comfortable with only having Daniels as a backup to Pierce.  Too risky.
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