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Are teams going to push KG's # now?
« on: February 05, 2011, 09:24:08 AM »

Offline celtics2

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Is the word out? Get KG's mind off basketball and disrupt him and his temper. He's been getting roughed up lately and doesn't like it.
The foul that started him off in the Mavs game would have been a holding call in the NFL. Then the ref held KG a little too long I think and KG pushed his arm away. I don't blame KG so there should be no fine. Rondo's been roughed up and now KG. This is the Celtics fault for not sending messages long ago. Years ago a bench player would come in and settle the score. One doesn't have to start a riot but those should be advised roughness will be returned with roughness.

Yeah I expect the wimpy Stern to fine KG.

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« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2011, 10:15:52 AM »

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I don't know how people can keep defending KG. I love him because he's a Celtic but I am tired of his antics. He basically starts with everyone with the childish games he plays, basically asking for a fight. He didn't mean to hit Frye OR step underneath him? Give me a break. I'm waiting for the day when someone pops him. KG's so tough, I wish he would mix it up inside then I would believe it. Maybe he could roll to the basket for once instead of standing a step inside the 3pt line but then he would probably get popped.

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« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2011, 10:25:16 AM »

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I love KG, but he should have gotten a second T for pushing the ref away like that. He's so lucky. I cant believe the trigger happy refs didnt give a consequence for that.

An the foul on him wasnt even hard, Barea was just trying to get his arm away from him. There's no reason for KG to overreact like that. Just a dumb move on KG's part.

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« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2011, 10:26:22 AM »

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I don't know how people can keep defending KG. I love him because he's a Celtic but I am tired of his antics. He basically starts with everyone with the childish games he plays, basically asking for a fight. He didn't mean to hit Frye OR step underneath him? Give me a break. I'm waiting for the day when someone pops him. KG's so tough, I wish he would mix it up inside then I would believe it. Maybe he could roll to the basket for once instead of standing a step inside the 3pt line but then he would probably get popped.

Maybe some can also remember C's are going nowhere without him... Sick of this. As I said before if everyone is put under the microscope on the basketball court like KG they don't always look like perfect gentlemen some of you seem to want to see on the court. Sorry everyone KG is not turning in to a robot, he is who he is. It's sports, not a presidential dinner.

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« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2011, 10:28:15 AM »

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KG is a bit of a loose cannon right now.  I love the intensity, but he's close to being on tilt right now.  If teams aren't targeting him, they should be, because he's an extremely effective -- at times dominant -- player.  However, he has an Achilles heel, and that's his emotions.


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Re: Are teams going to push KG's # now?
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2011, 10:30:39 AM »

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KG is a bit of a loose cannon right now.  I love the intensity, but he's close to being on tilt right now.  If teams aren't targeting him, they should be, because he's an extremely effective -- at times dominant -- player.  However, he has an Achilles heel, and that's his emotions.

Maybe but the problem is those emotions is what made him the player he is. I have no problem with him toning it down a little bit but I think that is what gets him going in the first place.

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« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2011, 10:35:44 AM »

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KG is a bit of a loose cannon right now.  I love the intensity, but he's close to being on tilt right now.  If teams aren't targeting him, they should be, because he's an extremely effective -- at times dominant -- player.  However, he has an Achilles heel, and that's his emotions.

Maybe but the problem is those emotions is what made him the player he is. I have no problem with him toning it down a little bit but I think that is what gets him going in the first place.

I don't know.  There's a difference between Intense KG and Psycho KG, I think.  Right now, we're getting a little bit closer to Psycho KG, where he's letting other teams take him out of his game.  I think it's possible for him to harness his emotions, where he uses the intensity to his advantage but doesn't cross a line. 

I thought he did a good job of doing that in the LA game, where he got hit in the head but basically stayed focused.  I think he's done a pretty poor job with that in the Phoenix and Dallas games, and last year in the Heat series.  Hopefully this is just a particular hyper-intense stretch that he's going through, that will subside when the games start to count more (as counter-intuitive as that may be.)


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« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2011, 10:49:44 AM »

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after barea held him down, he pushed a ref twice last night. wonder if it'll bring a fine.
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« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2011, 10:55:53 AM »

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I don't know how people can keep defending KG. I love him because he's a Celtic but I am tired of his antics. He basically starts with everyone with the childish games he plays, basically asking for a fight. He didn't mean to hit Frye OR step underneath him? Give me a break. I'm waiting for the day when someone pops him. KG's so tough, I wish he would mix it up inside then I would believe it. Maybe he could roll to the basket for once instead of standing a step inside the 3pt line but then he would probably get popped.

Maybe some can also remember C's are going nowhere without him... Sick of this. As I said before if everyone is put under the microscope on the basketball court like KG they don't always look like perfect gentlemen some of you seem to want to see on the court. Sorry everyone KG is not turning in to a robot, he is who he is. It's sports, not a presidential dinner.

C's are definitely going nowhere without KG. Thats a fact.  There is a difference between playing intense/emotional and playing  stupid childish games. If you put KG under a microscope you will see that he starts with basically anyone around him all game. I'm not expecting him to be a gentlemen but alot of it is childish in my opinion. I didn't like him on Minnesota and I remember him and Perk battling because Perk would not back down and we're starting to see more of that lately.

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« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2011, 11:00:00 AM »

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He didn't push the ref he knocked his arm off him, big difference.   Though still not wise, to do by a long shot.  His intensity is what makes him good folks, you can't have it both ways.   He is pretty laid back compared to Dave Cowens.

That being said not many teams have someone who is a hatchet man these days who started fight and rough up the other team.  The league also has a lot of rules for stopping this kind of very thing.  I think its extremely unlikely besides Garnett might play better mad some nights, some do.

I thought his intensity got us back in the ball game for a while.   It cuts both ways.   He is immature some with it though.  He isn't going to change, its ingrained in him by now.   Perk can be the same way.   Its always a problem when your lads are worrying more about posturing and pushing than playing.
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« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2011, 11:19:33 AM »

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He didn't push the ref he knocked his arm off him, big difference.   Though still not wise, to do by a long shot.  His intensity is what makes him good folks, you can't have it both ways.   He is pretty laid back compared to Dave Cowens.

He might be laid back compared to Cowens...But Cowens kept his intensity within the game.  Within basketball.

Also a big difference in eras.  Kennedy and O'Brien weren't the NBA's policemen like Stern is today.  The players policed themselves.  I can't imagine what a Silas, Thurmond, Unseld, etc would have done if anybody did the kind of yapping and taunting that Garnett gets away with now.  They'd have flattened Garnett. 

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« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2011, 11:40:00 AM »

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I don't understand how even the biggest KG fan can't see the guy is a bit out of control right now. He should have gotten tossed from last night's game for pushing the ref's arm away. There was absolutely no reason for him to act the way he did. Barea did not even foul him hard. The big problem is, I am sure no one can tell KG what to do, so he is going to have to figure out on his own how to calm down. If this continues, it will cost the Celtics, because he will be suspended for a game or two. In fact, if the league reviews the tape of him pushing the refs arm away, I would be surprised if he is not suspended one game for that.

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« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2011, 12:21:51 PM »

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Is the word out? Get KG's mind off basketball and disrupt him and his temper. He's been getting roughed up lately and doesn't like it.
The foul that started him off in the Mavs game would have been a holding call in the NFL. Then the ref held KG a little too long I think and KG pushed his arm away. I don't blame KG so there should be no fine. Rondo's been roughed up and now KG. This is the Celtics fault for not sending messages long ago. Years ago a bench player would come in and settle the score. One doesn't have to start a riot but those should be advised roughness will be returned with roughness.

Yeah I expect the wimpy Stern to fine KG.
I wouldn't be surprised to see more teams try to get into his head to get him off his game.  If it continues to work, we'll see more of it until KG smartens up about keeping himself under control.

I was surprised he didn't get tossed for tossing the refs hand off of him.  Not sure a fine or suspension is coming but I wouldn't be surprised about a fine.  Definitely an overreaction by KG to Barea's foul.  It was clean and he was holding onto KG.  I saw nothing dirty or hurtful in the foul.

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« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2011, 12:25:39 PM »

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Honestly, KG was being a bit of a puss last night.  Barrea wasn't roughing him up or anything, he was holding him so he couldn't get a shot off on a foul.  Totally reasonable, and nothing over the top.
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« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2011, 12:27:57 PM »

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Teams have been pushing KG's number for a long time now.  The thing is, it is a risky game.  They do it to try to get him to get T's or thrown out of the game, but KG also plays significantly better basketball when he is pumped up like that.  It doesn't throw him off his game, it makes him even more focussed...but it also makes him liable to throw a punch.

The thing that frustrates me is that if someone starts something with him and he walks away, he still gets a double T.  This is the biggest cop out by the league.  These guys know that they can get wrapped up with KG, and get the double T called nearly every time, not because KG reacts and does something, but because KG has a reputation (which is of course well deserved).