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Re: 2010 Patriots Post-Season Thread
« Reply #240 on: January 16, 2011, 09:43:34 PM »

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Well, on the flip side, technically the Patriots are set up pretty well to continue to improve over the next few years and remain a top team through the rest of Brady's prime.

That said, I've completely lost confidence in Brady and Belichick.  They can win plenty of regular season games and look great, but they've now lost three straight playoff games, and they haven't come up big when it really mattered in a long time.

This Patriots team just doesn't have an edge anymore, and teams that do have an edge - Jets, Steelers, Ravens etc - have had a disproportionate amount of the post-season success lately.  If I had to point out one thing the Patriots are really missing, it's that edge.  You need to have that hard-hitting, bruising, slug-it-out edge to your team in order to succeed in the playoffs.  The Jets have gotten to the AFC Championship game two years in a row despite being an underdog all the way because of that, and the Steelers look poisd to win their second Super Bowl in three years because of their edge.

Thats because since 2007 they have become a much more offensive minded team . The team had to get younger through the draft on defense and this is unfortunately the growing pains you are seeing the past 2 playoffs.

 Bill is trying to get back to being a dominate Defensive team through the draft. He has drafted guys like Mayo, McCortey, Chung, Meriweather in hope of getting a speedy Defense.

They have a good core of young defensive players in Wilfork, Mayo,McCortey, Chung,  but they are still missing a Clay Matthews type of outside linebacker to play in the 3-4.

They have struck out trying to find that great outside linebacker through free agency with Rosevelt Colvin and Adalius Thomas. I think they are going to continue to build the defense through the draft .

I would love for them to sign Nnamdi Asomugha as a shut down corner.

Are there any pass rushers who will be FA?

I don't know, but I think you're completely right about the lack of real star players on defense.  If you look at the best defensive teams, they win in the post-season because they have a good all around defense, but they always have play-making stars, whether it's Clay Matthews or Julius Peppers or Troy Palumalu or Dwight Freeney. 

I hate the Jets and all of the "hard knocks" BS, but it really gives them an edge.  They are trash talking, hard hitting, play-dirty-and-ugly team, and it works for them when it matters, even if they aren't that great in the regular season.
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Re: 2010 Patriots Post-Season Thread
« Reply #241 on: January 16, 2011, 10:12:30 PM »

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At least Bill Buckner was playing in pain. What was the Pats' excuse?  If I'm Belichek I'm making everyone on the team, myself included, write apology letters to the Jets.  We're sorry we didn't bring you a game worthy of your play. We're sorry if our terrible play diminished your accomplishment in any way. We're sorry we were so proud for beating you a month ago. We're sorry we underestimated you. You are a much better team than us and we're sorry we didn't think that till today.

Sit on that for an off season and watch the coach try to replace you in the draft

Re: 2010 Patriots Post-Season Thread
« Reply #242 on: January 16, 2011, 10:26:21 PM »

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There is actually a psychological phrase for when you try to associate yourself with a winner or disassociate yourself from a loser.  I try hard to admit what I am by trying to wear the hat of my team even after a loss. I am not going to wear my Pats hats for a while. I almost want to send them to the team with a letter saying "I want my money back". I'm essentially somewhat personally offended by their performance tonight.

I think Belichek should have the whole team and coaching staff drug tested asap. I'm pretty sure there were a lot of mid night romps during this bye week.

Re: 2010 Patriots Post-Season Thread
« Reply #243 on: January 16, 2011, 10:44:37 PM »

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I think the biggest mistake tonight was the drive in the fourth quarter that lasted like 8 minutes, was conducted with absolutely no sense of urgency and netted zero points. They continually ran the ball, and then let the play clock run almost all the way down before snapping the next ball. It made absolutely no sense and was amazingly frustrating to watch. It was like they were the ones trying to run the clock out.

Re: 2010 Patriots Post-Season Thread
« Reply #244 on: January 16, 2011, 10:48:53 PM »

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Patriots are great pretenders.

The 3 most important component: Jets had the edge today.

Rex Ryan>Bill Belichick.
Mark Sanchez>Tom Brady.
Jets D>Pats D

Re: 2010 Patriots Post-Season Thread
« Reply #245 on: January 16, 2011, 10:50:42 PM »

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Patriots are great pretenders.

The 3 most important component: Jets had the edge today.

Rex Ryan>Bill Belichick.
Mark Sanchez>Tom Brady.
Jets D>Pats D

Yep.  3 ingredients to winning in the NFL.  Better coaching, better QB play, and better defense.  The Patriots usually have the advantage over most teams in the first two, but they didn't today.  The Patriots rarely have the edge in the last one against good teams, and they definitely did not today.
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Re: 2010 Patriots Post-Season Thread
« Reply #246 on: January 17, 2011, 12:04:29 AM »

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Any ideas where the Patriots go from here Draft wise?

They have some pretty good picks. Commentators were suggesting that we could see several trips to the super bowl due to upcoming picks and assumption that they would be able to hold on to current players.


Re: 2010 Patriots Post-Season Thread
« Reply #247 on: January 17, 2011, 12:05:31 AM »

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Any idea why they did not run Ben Jarvis Green-Ellis more the second half?

Re: 2010 Patriots Post-Season Thread
« Reply #248 on: January 17, 2011, 12:09:25 AM »

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Any ideas where the Patriots go from here Draft wise?

They have some pretty good picks. Commentators were suggesting that we could see several trips to the super bowl due to upcoming picks and assumption that they would be able to hold on to current players.



oh yeah, this teams future is still very very bright. We have a young core on defense (and Ty Warren and Bodden coming back from injury next year), young playmakers on offense (Benjarvus, Woody, Tate, Price, Hernandez, Gronk) and 6 picks in the first 3 rounds. 17,28,33, a late 2nd and two 3rds.

Next year's team should be better than this years. I think we'll be a top team for the next decade.

Re: 2010 Patriots Post-Season Thread
« Reply #249 on: January 17, 2011, 12:16:01 AM »

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Any ideas where the Patriots go from here Draft wise?

They have some pretty good picks. Commentators were suggesting that we could see several trips to the super bowl due to upcoming picks and assumption that they would be able to hold on to current players.



oh yeah, this teams future is still very very bright. We have a young core on defense (and Ty Warren and Bodden coming back from injury next year), young playmakers on offense (Benjarvus, Woody, Tate, Price, Hernandez, Gronk) and 6 picks in the first 3 rounds. 17,28,33, a late 2nd and two 3rds.

Next year's team should be better than this years. I think we'll be a top team for the next decade.

do the Pats have any cap space this off-season? Would love to see them sign Seymour back for short money .  I would also love to sign Nnamdi Asomugha to sure up the secondary .

The Pats miss guys like Law and Harrison , who were all pro players and leaders. I like McCorty  and Chung and Bodden( when healthy), but Asomugha is a shut down corner the Pats need.

And for the love of God , get someone who can pressure the QB!

Re: 2010 Patriots Post-Season Thread
« Reply #250 on: January 17, 2011, 12:47:11 AM »

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Any ideas where the Patriots go from here Draft wise?

They have some pretty good picks. Commentators were suggesting that we could see several trips to the super bowl due to upcoming picks and assumption that they would be able to hold on to current players.



oh yeah, this teams future is still very very bright. We have a young core on defense (and Ty Warren and Bodden coming back from injury next year), young playmakers on offense (Benjarvus, Woody, Tate, Price, Hernandez, Gronk) and 6 picks in the first 3 rounds. 17,28,33, a late 2nd and two 3rds.

Next year's team should be better than this years. I think we'll be a top team for the next decade.

do the Pats have any cap space this off-season? Would love to see them sign Seymour back for short money .  I would also love to sign Nnamdi Asomugha to sure up the secondary .

The Pats miss guys like Law and Harrison , who were all pro players and leaders. I like McCorty  and Chung and Bodden( when healthy), but Asomugha is a shut down corner the Pats need.

And for the love of God , get someone who can pressure the QB!

They'll definitely have cap space, but I guess that'll depend on the new CBA. I suggested this earlier and I agree with you 100% on Seymour. I think him returning makes a lot of sense for both sides. I'd live Asomugha too, but I doubt we can/would pay him the amount he'll get. We're gonna get a stacked draft class and some veterans, hopefully Seymour. We'll be looking in the draft for a DE and OLB who can get at the QB, it should be a top priority along with OL.

Re: 2010 Patriots Post-Season Thread
« Reply #251 on: January 17, 2011, 01:19:10 AM »

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Maybe the Pats should try to get Rasheed Wallace.  He really turns it on at playoffs time and he's the only guy out there that could help.

And the Celts can get Randy Moss. He's magical.


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Re: 2010 Patriots Post-Season Thread
« Reply #252 on: January 17, 2011, 01:29:07 AM »

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Apparently according to espn Deion Branch said some of the Jets are classless after the game.

Yeah that's just great Deion, but you know what they aren't? They aren't losers tonight Deion. That's what they aren't.

Oh hey Deion. There's a ball in the air. Maybe you could catch it. If you can't try not to call the ball classless, ok.

Re: 2010 Patriots Post-Season Thread
« Reply #253 on: January 17, 2011, 03:54:56 AM »

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Apparently according to espn Deion Branch said some of the Jets are classless after the game.

Yeah that's just great Deion, but you know what they aren't? They aren't losers tonight Deion. That's what they aren't.

Oh hey Deion. There's a ball in the air. Maybe you could catch it. If you can't try not to call the ball classless, ok.

He's going through post-loss bitterness ... I'm dealing with the same emotions at present. After a season like the Pats had, to end it that way requires a little venting. ;)
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Re: 2010 Patriots Post-Season Thread
« Reply #254 on: January 17, 2011, 07:47:08 AM »

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I have to say at this point im still pretty shaken up about the loss.  Didn't sleep to well last night.  I just have to tip my hat to the Jets.  They put together a great gameplan and executed it.  If somebody had told me the patriots would lose the turnover battle I wouldnt have believed them, but they did. 

And while I am extremely dissapointed, I am trying to step back and look at the big picture.  Before this season i was considering this year a rebuilding year.  BB retooled on the fly and put in probably the best coaching performance of his career.  We still have the youngest defense in the league, and 6 picks in the first three rounds this year.  So the opportunity for growth is still there as dissapointing as this loss was.   At this point we as fans and players have to turn the page and look to next year and improve the personel and have the defense continue to grow.

It was a great year which made yesterday so dissapointing but at this point I am trying to turn the page.
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