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Re: Rondo Free Throw Shooting 2011
« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2011, 10:04:17 AM »

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When he's still not driving to the hoop to score I think it is a very reasonable concern to have. He passed up easy shot after easy shot yesterday until finally in the last few minutes he actually took what Ridnour was just giving up without any effort to defend.

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« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2011, 10:17:59 AM »

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When he's still not driving to the hoop to score I think it is a very reasonable concern to have. He passed up easy shot after easy shot yesterday until finally in the last few minutes he actually took what Ridnour was just giving up without any effort to defend.

I agree he should of been attacking more but apparently he was still limited or trying to go easy on his ankle so I'll give him and expect a little time before he gets back to being more aggressive.
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Re: Rondo Free Throw Shooting 2011
« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2011, 11:05:18 AM »

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Rondo is a very cerebral player. Unfortunately some parts of the game are easy to over think. This is clearly the case with his drop in finishes at the rim (tends to dish even with a clear layup). This was/is a huge part of his game and more of a concern then the Free throw shooting; but to be fair he is injured.

Re: Rondo Free Throw Shooting 2011
« Reply #18 on: January 04, 2011, 02:18:53 PM »

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I think your absolutely right. I consider myself a huge Rondo fan, but I have to say I feel a bit dissapointed with his development this season.

  Wow.

Wow, What? You can't convince me that Rondo is doing anything right now that he couldn't do by the end of the season last year. He's averaging 4 more assists than last season, but he's playing more passively to get them.

I'm not saying Rondo sucks I'm just saying he's the same player he was last season, in my mind. The same weaknesses he had last season are here this season, just as exploitable. In the play-offs teams will try to force him to take the scoring role and right now any shot other than a lay-up is a bad shot for him.

Re: Rondo Free Throw Shooting 2011
« Reply #19 on: January 04, 2011, 02:22:11 PM »

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Before you all jump on me, I love the guy and he is the engine that stirs the drink. However, he is shooting 41 percent from the free throw line and has made one free throw in the past 5 weeks. Yes, he missed 2 1/2 weeks, but one free throw made in 2 1/2 weeks is putrid. 41 percent from the line just doesn't cut it. I thought he would get better from the stripe, but apparently it just isn't in the cards. Could a potential league MVP ever shoot this poorly from the stripe and actually win the award? Or more important, can we afford to have him on the floor at the end of important, tight games?

Even worse, he really is not getting to the line at all. Should be getting there much more.

If he keeps getting 14 assists per game I wont be too worried about his lack of getting to the rim.

Re: Rondo Free Throw Shooting 2011
« Reply #20 on: January 04, 2011, 02:29:03 PM »

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Before you all jump on me, I love the guy and he is the engine that stirs the drink. However, he is shooting 41 percent from the free throw line and has made one free throw in the past 5 weeks. Yes, he missed 2 1/2 weeks, but one free throw made in 2 1/2 weeks is putrid. 41 percent from the line just doesn't cut it. I thought he would get better from the stripe, but apparently it just isn't in the cards. Could a potential league MVP ever shoot this poorly from the stripe and actually win the award? Or more important, can we afford to have him on the floor at the end of important, tight games?

Even worse, he really is not getting to the line at all. Should be getting there much more.

If he keeps getting 14 assists per game I wont be too worried about his lack of getting to the rim.
If opposing PGs are playing him like Ridnour was I will be. It allows them to completely neutralize our post game.

Re: Rondo Free Throw Shooting 2011
« Reply #21 on: January 04, 2011, 02:30:37 PM »

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Before you all jump on me, I love the guy and he is the engine that stirs the drink. However, he is shooting 41 percent from the free throw line and has made one free throw in the past 5 weeks. Yes, he missed 2 1/2 weeks, but one free throw made in 2 1/2 weeks is putrid. 41 percent from the line just doesn't cut it. I thought he would get better from the stripe, but apparently it just isn't in the cards. Could a potential league MVP ever shoot this poorly from the stripe and actually win the award? Or more important, can we afford to have him on the floor at the end of important, tight games?

Even worse, he really is not getting to the line at all. Should be getting there much more.

If he keeps getting 14 assists per game I wont be too worried about his lack of getting to the rim.
If opposing PGs are playing him like Ridnour was I will be. It allows them to completely neutralize our post game.

Again, Rondo is still coming back from an injury.  He said that is why he wasn't as aggressive.  This hasn't been a pattern for the year or anything, it will be fine.
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Re: Rondo Free Throw Shooting 2011
« Reply #22 on: January 04, 2011, 02:33:11 PM »

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Before you all jump on me, I love the guy and he is the engine that stirs the drink. However, he is shooting 41 percent from the free throw line and has made one free throw in the past 5 weeks. Yes, he missed 2 1/2 weeks, but one free throw made in 2 1/2 weeks is putrid. 41 percent from the line just doesn't cut it. I thought he would get better from the stripe, but apparently it just isn't in the cards. Could a potential league MVP ever shoot this poorly from the stripe and actually win the award? Or more important, can we afford to have him on the floor at the end of important, tight games?

Even worse, he really is not getting to the line at all. Should be getting there much more.

If he keeps getting 14 assists per game I wont be too worried about his lack of getting to the rim.
If opposing PGs are playing him like Ridnour was I will be. It allows them to completely neutralize our post game.

Again, Rondo is still coming back from an injury.  He said that is why he wasn't as aggressive.  This hasn't been a pattern for the year or anything, it will be fine.
He's been passing up shots all year though, not as badly as last night though.

Re: Rondo Free Throw Shooting 2011
« Reply #23 on: January 04, 2011, 02:41:19 PM »

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Before you all jump on me, I love the guy and he is the engine that stirs the drink. However, he is shooting 41 percent from the free throw line and has made one free throw in the past 5 weeks. Yes, he missed 2 1/2 weeks, but one free throw made in 2 1/2 weeks is putrid. 41 percent from the line just doesn't cut it. I thought he would get better from the stripe, but apparently it just isn't in the cards. Could a potential league MVP ever shoot this poorly from the stripe and actually win the award? Or more important, can we afford to have him on the floor at the end of important, tight games?

Even worse, he really is not getting to the line at all. Should be getting there much more.

If he keeps getting 14 assists per game I wont be too worried about his lack of getting to the rim.
If opposing PGs are playing him like Ridnour was I will be. It allows them to completely neutralize our post game.

Again, Rondo is still coming back from an injury.  He said that is why he wasn't as aggressive.  This hasn't been a pattern for the year or anything, it will be fine.
He's been passing up shots all year though, not as badly as last night though.

I agree he could be more aggressive but it doesn't matter.  He is such a good passer and floor general that when we are at full strength he can just pose a threat of scoring and not look for his shot as much and still be hugely effective.  We have enough offensive weapons to allow him that.

So I don't have a problem with that.  Right now, since we are not at full strength, he does need to look to score more and if teams are going to let him score he should.  But I hardly think it is a big concern and something to be down on Rondo for.  He has played incredible basketball this season.
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Re: Rondo Free Throw Shooting 2011
« Reply #24 on: January 04, 2011, 03:16:05 PM »

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The thing that bugs me about Rondo is him not taking it strong to the hole. I just don't understand it. I mean all the elite PGs do Deron, Parker, CP3 to an extent why doesn't he beat his guy off the dribble and actually finish at the hoop more?

Hell he could probably get us into the bonus early nearly all the time if he were to do that.

I guess you have forgotten about how the kid has had several injuries hindering his lateral movement this season.

Definitely a great idea to have rondo slashing and cutting to the basket with hurt legs ...  :-X

Re: Rondo Free Throw Shooting 2011
« Reply #25 on: January 04, 2011, 03:18:53 PM »

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Before you all jump on me, I love the guy and he is the engine that stirs the drink. However, he is shooting 41 percent from the free throw line and has made one free throw in the past 5 weeks. Yes, he missed 2 1/2 weeks, but one free throw made in 2 1/2 weeks is putrid. 41 percent from the line just doesn't cut it. I thought he would get better from the stripe, but apparently it just isn't in the cards. Could a potential league MVP ever shoot this poorly from the stripe and actually win the award? Or more important, can we afford to have him on the floor at the end of important, tight games?

Even worse, he really is not getting to the line at all. Should be getting there much more.

If he keeps getting 14 assists per game I wont be too worried about his lack of getting to the rim.
If opposing PGs are playing him like Ridnour was I will be. It allows them to completely neutralize our post game.

Again, Rondo is still coming back from an injury.  He said that is why he wasn't as aggressive.  This hasn't been a pattern for the year or anything, it will be fine.
He's been passing up shots all year though, not as badly as last night though.

I agree he could be more aggressive but it doesn't matter.  He is such a good passer and floor general that when we are at full strength he can just pose a threat of scoring and not look for his shot as much and still be hugely effective.  We have enough offensive weapons to allow him that.

So I don't have a problem with that.  Right now, since we are not at full strength, he does need to look to score more and if teams are going to let him score he should.  But I hardly think it is a big concern and something to be down on Rondo for.  He has played incredible basketball this season.

It is a concern he's got to be able to score and draw fouls like he is able to do. What happens when things slow down or there are mismatches where we can't get Paul or Ray going? He's got to finish and put the ball in the hole and/or get to the FT line there's no question.
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Re: Rondo Free Throw Shooting 2011
« Reply #26 on: January 04, 2011, 03:43:11 PM »

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Before you all jump on me, I love the guy and he is the engine that stirs the drink. However, he is shooting 41 percent from the free throw line and has made one free throw in the past 5 weeks. Yes, he missed 2 1/2 weeks, but one free throw made in 2 1/2 weeks is putrid. 41 percent from the line just doesn't cut it. I thought he would get better from the stripe, but apparently it just isn't in the cards. Could a potential league MVP ever shoot this poorly from the stripe and actually win the award? Or more important, can we afford to have him on the floor at the end of important, tight games?

Even worse, he really is not getting to the line at all. Should be getting there much more.

If he keeps getting 14 assists per game I wont be too worried about his lack of getting to the rim.
If opposing PGs are playing him like Ridnour was I will be. It allows them to completely neutralize our post game.

Again, Rondo is still coming back from an injury.  He said that is why he wasn't as aggressive.  This hasn't been a pattern for the year or anything, it will be fine.
He's been passing up shots all year though, not as badly as last night though.

I agree he could be more aggressive but it doesn't matter.  He is such a good passer and floor general that when we are at full strength he can just pose a threat of scoring and not look for his shot as much and still be hugely effective.  We have enough offensive weapons to allow him that.

So I don't have a problem with that.  Right now, since we are not at full strength, he does need to look to score more and if teams are going to let him score he should.  But I hardly think it is a big concern and something to be down on Rondo for.  He has played incredible basketball this season.

It is a concern he's got to be able to score and draw fouls like he is able to do. What happens when things slow down or there are mismatches where we can't get Paul or Ray going? He's got to finish and put the ball in the hole and/or get to the FT line there's no question.

I agree the FT thing is a problem, for the record.  It just hasn't limited his game that much this year, he has still played extremely well and run the team just how he wants.

The aggressiveness and looking to score hasn't been an issue yet this season.  If teams are daring Rondo to take it to the rim I think he just will, but that is not how he has been played this year and he has done a great job looking into the post and to get other players involved in the scoring.  Rondo has shown he can get to the rack plenty and last night for example he hit an elbow jumper and a floater when the team needed offense and Ridnour was basically daring him to shoot.

So patience I think is important,and especially with him coming off an injury.  It hasn't prevented us from winning games this year and as and if more teams give him scoring opprotunities I think he will exploit them.



Look at the Cavs series of example.  We have seen it in the past.  Rondo just prefers to pass and I love him for it.  The concern is that he doesn't ignore and get rusty scoring, but so far it has not been an issue this season.
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Re: Rondo Free Throw Shooting 2011
« Reply #27 on: January 04, 2011, 03:53:44 PM »

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I think it is laughable that people think it is fine that this team's point guard is shooting 41 percent from the line. And the excuse that he does not take enough foul shots during games -- Please. Again, let me repeat that I think Rondo is one of the 5 best point guards in basketball. That said, there is absolutely no excuse for his free throw percentage to be 41 percent --- I don't care if he had only taken 10 shots. Botton line is he has played 22 games, taken 39 free throws and made only 16. That is awful and unacceptable.

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« Reply #28 on: January 04, 2011, 04:00:57 PM »

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That is awful and unacceptable.
Awful, yes. But its clearly acceptable, because he is a top 5 PG in this league.

Re: Rondo Free Throw Shooting 2011
« Reply #29 on: January 04, 2011, 04:32:32 PM »

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I think your absolutely right. I consider myself a huge Rondo fan, but I have to say I feel a bit dissapointed with his development this season.

  Wow.

Wow, What? You can't convince me that Rondo is doing anything right now that he couldn't do by the end of the season last year. He's averaging 4 more assists than last season, but he's playing more passively to get them.

  No, I probably can't convince you of that since you seem to think that having an assist average that's among the best of all time is some kind of parlor trick. His running of the offense has been better than anything I've seen from any pg in the league, and we're shooting better than any other team in the league under his direction. Before his injuries came up he was widely considered an MVP candidate. It's hard to see any improvement at all.

I'm not saying Rondo sucks I'm just saying he's the same player he was last season, in my mind. The same weaknesses he had last season are here this season, just as exploitable. In the play-offs teams will try to force him to take the scoring role and right now any shot other than a lay-up is a bad shot for him.

  First of all, it's not as easy to exploit Rondo as people claim or else this team would never get to the ECF. Last year opposing teams exploited it to the extent that we lost our starting center and still came within a few points of winning the title. Cleveland was a top 6 defense last year and they exploited Rondo to the point that they were unable to stop anything he did. Orlando, an even better defensive team, exploited Rondo so well that they almost got swept by us.

  Oh, and for the record, Rondo's jump shot seems to be quite a bit improved from last year, to the tune that he's been hitting outside shots at a rate well above the league average I'd think that a "huge fan" of Rondo like yourself would have noticed this.