Nate

[vinnie]

Should never play another minute of point guard again. He is absolutely horrible at that position and is a huge negative on the court. Would rather take my chances with Quisy than Nate. Right now he can't shoot, play defense or pass. Other than that, however, he is doing a good job. I am starting to see why the Knicks were not too fond of him.

[indeedproceed]

Streaky explosive bench scorer at the 1 and 2. That is Nate's job description. He's not Rondo, when he has a bad game, its a bad game. When Rondo has a bad game it doesn't mean its a game that will cripple the C's completely, because his game moves around so well, and he almost always passes well.

When Nate plays 28 mins + as our starter and only true point it is as much of a death knell to us as any other player can give us.

Nate should absolutely play the point for us, he should play it every game...as a change of pace guy behind Rondo for 15 mins or so a night, with some time at the 2.

It is unfortunate that he is our only PG available, but it is as they say, what it is.

When he has a bad game, its awful for us. When he's the only guy that can play the position.

And yes, I did not include Avery Bradley in that equation. In the same way that Nate playing 30 mins as the starter is taking a big chance by a team that expects to win, needing Avery Bradley to play is a horrible idea.

[vinnie]

Probably nothing out there, but I would like Danny to explore trading Nate. And, I disagree 100 percent with him playing the point. It's not a change of pace, but more like having a guy who has no clue trying to run the team. If Nate is on the floor, then let the captain or Quisy run the team. Nate is completely unable to do that. As for his shooting, he has the worst shooting percentage of all players getting regular time at 43 percent. That is not getting it done. And, he really does nothing else to make up for the poor shooting.

[Greenbean]

I hear you Vinnie and I understand your beef.

His confidence is shattered right now and he is a guy that runs off of energy and confidence.

He is giving us next to nothing but we will need this guy at some point this season. Just a couple of weeks ago he was putting up 15-18 points per game in Rondo's absence.

I expect a turnaround.

[LooseCannon]

As for his shooting, he has the worst shooting percentage of all players getting regular time at 43 percent. That is not getting it done. And, he really does nothing else to make up for the poor shooting.

That's a bit unfair since he takes a three for most of his shots.  If you adjust that using TS% of eFG%, he's not the worst because he is hitting 38% from behind the line.

Nate Robinson is easily a much better point guard (on offense) than Avery Bradley.  He's inconsistent, but that doesn't mean he is a bad player.  He's been thrust into a role he is not best-suited for (like Glen Davis, I think he is better coming off the bench).  As a shooting guard, he is still a better shooter and rebounder than Von Wafer. 

[Meadowlark_Scal]

Nate can bve decent as a backup pg, but he is better as a sort of "pg assistant"....like he would be to West or MD, he is a good ball handler, and he moves it well. But as a pure pg, well, this is why you don't want a pg who likes to shoot really....no one is as good of a shooter as you want...even Ray has off days.

  When people come to depend on a shooter, they expect him to hit all the time. Ray pretty much does, but nate is more the norm. Nate cannot run the point and contribute shooting and 3's as we need him to.

  He is worth keeping, as a sort of off pg, like the post guy said, with MD is good, and west, maybe bradley, and some wafer..


  Wafer is looking better the more he plays also...He needs more playing time, I think he could come into a better defender and shooter with more playing time.

[Meadowlark_Scal]

The one thing I don't agree with is how some C's fans always think we can "Just go get somebody else" as in for a backup PG or a big man.....as if there is a Rondo and Perk store right down the street...ya and they are having a sale on Poseys and Powes this week..!  Bring Lasme back...!

[Who]

Nate Robinson is a good backup PG.

He just isn't good enough at running an offense to be a full time starter.

He'll be valuable once again once Rondo returns.

[nba is the worst]

Probably nothing out there, but I would like Danny to explore trading Nate. And, I disagree 100 percent with him playing the point. It's not a change of pace, but more like having a guy who has no clue trying to run the team. If Nate is on the floor, then let the captain or Quisy run the team. Nate is completely unable to do that. As for his shooting, he has the worst shooting percentage of all players getting regular time at 43 percent. That is not getting it done. And, he really does nothing else to make up for the poor shooting.

I agree - although he's had some good games, in my opinion his lack of (take your pick) intelligence or understanding of how to play his position make him more than expendable.

I figured the team would struggle with injuries, but I didn't think it would be a blizzard of them...

[indeedproceed]

Probably nothing out there, but I would like Danny to explore trading Nate. And, I disagree 100 percent with him playing the point. It's not a change of pace, but more like having a guy who has no clue trying to run the team. If Nate is on the floor, then let the captain or Quisy run the team. Nate is completely unable to do that. As for his shooting, he has the worst shooting percentage of all players getting regular time at 43 percent. That is not getting it done. And, he really does nothing else to make up for the poor shooting.

I think this is kind of a narrow-minded way to see Nate.

Nate was meant to share the backcourt with one of Delonte or Rondo. His true shooting % his higher than either Rondo or Marquis, and his assist rate is on par with Darren Collison's.

Rondo is a pass first, drive and kick PG. Nate is a sharp shooter high energy pg, Nate is a good change of pace PG.

He's meant to play next to another guy who can help shoulder the burden of primary ball handler, and ideally he'd be with the second unit. He's not with the second unit, and without Delonte, Pierce is the only guy who has shown he can be a better ballhandler than nate.

[Chris]

Nate Robinson is a good backup PG.

He just isn't good enough at running an offense to be a full time starter.

He'll be valuable once again once Rondo returns.

Agree with all of this, but if Delonte comes back, and they can get a high quality player for him, I would be all for moving him.  He is certainly not the problem with the team, but he is a very movable asset if Delonte is there to be the backup PG.

[gar]

Would rather see Marquis at PG and Wafer at SG or SF depending on if Pierce or Allen are on the floor.

[ssspence]

Nate Robinson is a good backup PG.

He just isn't good enough at running an offense to be a full time starter.

He'll be valuable once again once Rondo returns.

Agree with all of this, but if Delonte comes back, and they can get a high quality player for him, I would be all for moving him.  He is certainly not the problem with the team, but he is a very movable asset if Delonte is there to be the backup PG.

agreed on all, tho delonte's injury history is concerning. with that said, who would we trade him to? tough to establish the right fit in a trade partner for a player as specific as nate, particularly when hoping for a meaningful return. any ideas?

[LooseCannon]

Agree with all of this, but if Delonte comes back, and they can get a high quality player for him, I would be all for moving him.  He is certainly not the problem with the team, but he is a very movable asset if Delonte is there to be the backup PG.

Delonte West is a sufficient injury risk, plus Robinson is a better SG than Wafer, that I wouldn't trade Robinson for the sake of getting rid of him.  If you can get a good back-up SF, sure, but I probably wouldn't trade him for another guard that would be available.

[celts55]

I will first say that I really liked the trade wheen it happened. I maen Nate sat on the bench for a whole bunch of games than scored 41 points his first time back out. I figured the guys the type of explosive scorer that any team would love coming off the bench. I don't know what happened, but he has not been the scorer i had hoped for since he's been on the Celtics. I root for him and keep thinking maybe today is the day, but it's not. Maybe it's the pressure of playing on a really good team with really good players? I don't know, but after the Magic game, I must admit I wouldn't be upset if he was traded. Not only was it one of the worst shooting games ever, but as he's like 5 foot nothing, he can't really defend. I would just as soon have Wafer play and see what he can do with some minutes and let Daniels play back up point until West is back.