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Re: Dickerson : "Muscle underneath and around the knee was tested"
« Reply #30 on: December 30, 2010, 08:11:41 AM »

Offline screwedupmaniac

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Watching New England sports tonight and Tanguay just said Dickerson texted him and said that they were testing the muscle around the knee. This scares me .....
Was this when KG went to the locker room or after the game?

That they were testing the muscle around his knee?

Not sure

Tanguay just said it again at the end of the show that the knee structure was tested and everything was fine, but they were looking at the muscles around the knee ...
which would mean not really that bad news or can it still be bad if it's muscle around the knee? All I know is it looked ugly

how did it look ugly?  He didn't twist anything and he didn't hit anything. His initial reaction was not good, but he seemed ok afterwards. Pierce's initial reaction to his injury in game 1 of the finals was bad too, and look how that turned out.

I just gave you the most meaningful tommy point I've given anyone all year. Refreshing to read one post that is glass-half-full in regards to KG. I'm keeping my fingers crossed with ya.

Re: Dickerson : "Muscle underneath and around the knee was tested"
« Reply #31 on: December 30, 2010, 08:14:27 AM »

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outside on the lower leg doesn't see to be bad really.

Re: Dickerson : "Muscle underneath and around the knee was tested"
« Reply #32 on: December 30, 2010, 09:38:46 AM »

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couple things...first, they absolutely have to test everything around the knee. the fact that they're doing this neither confirms nor denies a knee issue. second, re: the celtics statements saying this is not a knee issue...fact is, you can basically diagnose a ligament tear without an MRI. there are diagnostic tests, and while x-rays are not conclusive, if you don't see something on them due to fluid build-up from an ACL tear, it is a good thing. my guess is KG checked out fine on all these fronts and that is why they are saying what they're saying. they are pretty sure it isn't an ACL tear/knee problem. they can't be 100% sure without an MRI, but they are pretty sure. third, re: the duplicity of the C's in 2009 with KG's injury...fact is, the injury was not horrible. the bone spurs made it bad. they couldn't really tell how bad the bone spurs will until they removed them via surgery. hence, the C's were probably unable to ascertain how long KG would be out. the muscle injury wasn't that bad. they just had no clue if he could play with the bone spurs, which he couldn't because they were massive. this shouldn't be a repeat of the same situation in that they took care of the bone spurs last time. unless he somehow got them again, and got them horribly in a very short period of time, i don't see how this is at all like the injury in 2009...other than the fact that it might be a muscular right leg issue. bone spurs should not complicate things this time. anyway, lets just all hope for the best. we really can't say anything with any certainty until the MRI results come back.

Re: Dickerson : "Muscle underneath and around the knee was tested"
« Reply #33 on: December 30, 2010, 10:46:37 AM »

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Greg Dickerson took an Anatomy class in college, he says based on the angle Garnett was walking on when he was going off the court that it is a severe shin splints.

Re: Dickerson : "Muscle underneath and around the knee was tested"
« Reply #34 on: December 30, 2010, 10:58:15 AM »

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I don't know why anyone believes anything the Celtics say about injuries. They lied repeatedly in 2009 to keep hope alive and to keep fans going to the games. They will do the same thing this year if the injury is more serious than they want us to believe.

Re: Dickerson : "Muscle underneath and around the knee was tested"
« Reply #35 on: December 30, 2010, 11:13:45 AM »

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Obviously none of us can go on anything other than circumstantial evidence of what we saw in the game and what we know of KG's history.  What I think is being missed though is that KG had two injuries.  One was the bone spurs that he had in the 2008-2009 season that were surgically repaired in the off season (summer 2009).  For the start of the 2009-2010 season, KG was great (we were what 24-4 or something).  Then in Dec of 2009, KG injured his knee again (called a hyperextension which is not directly related to the previous bone spurs injury/surgery) in what appears to be an eerily similar fashion to last night.

After the hyperextension injury, KG was out for 10 games but then basically limped through the latter part of the 2009-2010 season (we were something like 27-27).  Doc and the trainers nursed him along so that he could go all out for the playoffs which he did.  Unfortunately, he just couldn't hold up and by the time of the finals, he looked to me as if he was gimpy again.  That combined with Perk's game 6 injury sealed our fate.

This is why I am concerned and why I believe others are concerned.  Whether it is the knee, a muscle attached to the knee or a muscle tendon that is near the knee but not part of the knee, it scares me.  We will all have to wait until the experts can review the MRI.  I just hope the Celtics are honest with the public (which I don't believe they have been in the past).

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Re: Dickerson : "Muscle underneath and around the knee was tested"
« Reply #36 on: December 30, 2010, 11:27:49 AM »

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I'm surprised Doc didn't have at least a bit more info when speaking on WEEI this morning.....I mean wouldn't they know if there is swelling and based off how Kevin feels can that indicate anything?
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Re: Dickerson : "Muscle underneath and around the knee was tested"
« Reply #37 on: December 30, 2010, 11:29:54 AM »

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Why do I even speculate when the Celtics don’t seem overly concerned? The Celtics are one team I don’t trust when it comes to injuries. They have taken the term “Belichickian” to another level. Remember back in 2009? We all thought Garnett would be back before the playoffs. Why? Because that’s what the Celtics led us to believe. They completely shielded us from the truth, which was that Garnett’s knee was worse than any of us knew, and that he would need surgery (and months of rehab, AND a year of being a shell of himself) before returning to normal.

I would rather the Celtics be Belichickian about injuries than have to sit through the hour-long ESPN special "The MRI" if it was LeBron's injured leg.
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Re: Dickerson : "Muscle underneath and around the knee was tested"
« Reply #38 on: December 30, 2010, 11:41:18 AM »

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I don't know why anyone believes anything the Celtics say about injuries. They lied repeatedly in 2009 to keep hope alive and to keep fans going to the games. They will do the same thing this year if the injury is more serious than they want us to believe.
Considering that team still won 60+ games and made a deep playoff run I don't buy the idea that their lying was about keeping fans coming to the games. They wanted KG to have the surgery ASAP and KG wanted to try and still play that year in the playoffs.

Re: Dickerson : "Muscle underneath and around the knee was tested"
« Reply #39 on: December 30, 2010, 11:59:57 AM »

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just get it figured out so i can rest easy or find the local bridge

Re: Dickerson : "Muscle underneath and around the knee was tested"
« Reply #40 on: December 30, 2010, 12:02:31 PM »

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I want to think it's nothing serious, KG was playing very well and now this happens.
 But I want to be optimistic.
 Please KG is essential :'(

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Re: Dickerson : "Muscle underneath and around the knee was tested"
« Reply #41 on: December 30, 2010, 12:07:05 PM »

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Tendon and ligament injuries take probably the longest to heal and even once healed need time to be strengthened.

Muscle problems may be the fastest for recovery.

I really feel like this is the same type of injury like last time in Utah, only plus side is there aren't the seriousness of the bone spurs that KG had to deal with.

There may be some bone spurs left, who really knows, but they can't be as large as the ones before that needed to be broken down before removal.

I really think it's a muscle strain that may or may not have pulled on a tendon or ligament causing a strain or tension etc.

If it's just a muscle problem, that would be the best case scenario. If it's both muscle and tendon/ligament...it will take a lot longer.

Re: Dickerson : "Muscle underneath and around the knee was tested"
« Reply #42 on: December 30, 2010, 12:56:40 PM »

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I can't think of a player in Boston I'd want to be hurt less.  I'd even take Tom Brady out for the year over KG.  At least with Brady we know there's going to be a next year (or the year after given the lockout--especially given the Pat's 6 picks in the first 3 rounds).  If KG is out for the year and the lockout looming, this could be it for the Big Three. 

I really, really hope this is relatively minor. 

Re: Dickerson : "Muscle underneath and around the knee was tested"
« Reply #43 on: December 30, 2010, 12:58:29 PM »

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I can't think of a player in Boston I'd want to be hurt less.  I'd even take Tom Brady out for the year over KG.   At least with Brady we know there's going to be a next year (or the year after given the lockout--especially given the Pat's 6 picks in the first 3 rounds).  If KG is out for the year and the lockout looming, this could be it for the Big Three. 

I really, really hope this is relatively minor. 

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Re: Dickerson : "Muscle underneath and around the knee was tested"
« Reply #44 on: December 30, 2010, 01:33:00 PM »

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we should here about the MRI results soon, I mean, Doc said he would know around noon. What's taking so long?