lightweight hawks trade (idea with suns)

[wiley]

Trade ID #5779653

lightweight because the Hawks lose their best bruisers, Horford and Powell.

Hawks get Nash, Frye, Lopez and Lawal (from Georgia Tech though not significant)
Suns get Horford, Bibby, Pachulia, Jord. Crawford, Josh Powell

keep in mind it's Jordan Crawford and not Jamaal.  and the point imbalance is wrong on the trade page.....due to fictional Jordan Crawford stats.


Nash, Joe Johnson, Marvin Williams, Josh Smith, Channing Frye
Teague, Jamaal Crawford, Lopez, Lawal, etc.. (Josh Smith gets some time at SF).

Nash organizes the Hawks.


Dragic, VC, Hill, Horford, Gortat
Bibby, Pietrus, Dudley, Powell, Pachulia

hmmmmm deep team with tough bench, and tough bigs in general.  No idea where it would go.

[greenhead85]

I thought Phoenix became the biggest threat to LAL in the West after their latest trade.

Consider these:

1. Bigs. They can have a C-PF rotation of Robin Lopez, Frye, Warrick and Gortat;
2. SF/SGs. A combination of any of these players: Grant Hill, Vince Carter, Dudley, Pietrus and Childress;
3. PGs. Nash and Dragic play so well alternatingly.

They can add another big if Warrick will be vertically-challenged.

[pearljammer10]

Phoenix as the biggest threat to LAL? Mmmm, ya no... I mean the Spurs, Utah, Dallas is playing like the second best team in the league right now, OK city, even the hornets and the nuggets are bigger threats to LAL than the Suns are.

[Chris]

Horford is as close to untouchable as any guy on Atlanta's roster.  They are not trading him for Nash and a bunch of spare parts. 

[Finkelskyhook]

If Phoenix is patient with Lawal he's going to be a beast. 

[wiley]

Horford is as close to untouchable as any guy on Atlanta's roster.  They are not trading him for Nash and a bunch of spare parts. 

I'm very curious what Atlanta's next move will be.  Their current squad is going nowhere.
Meanwhile I'm sure the Suns want to find out what Nash can do with his new toys.

[Chris]

Horford is as close to untouchable as any guy on Atlanta's roster.  They are not trading him for Nash and a bunch of spare parts. 

I'm very curious what Atlanta's next move will be.  Their current squad is going nowhere.
Meanwhile I'm sure the Suns want to find out what Nash can do with his new toys.

That will be interesting to watch.  My guess is they will try to move Williams and maybe Bibby for another big man.

I think they are very high on Teague, and are close to giving him the keys, and they may also be looking to move Josh Smith back to the SF position, to give Horford a little more help up front. 

[Moranis]

I believe the Hawks are one of the few teams that could trade with Denver with no other pieces involved and give Denver enough talent back and still keep enough talent themselves to perhaps appease Melo.

You could go major or minor (picks not included)

A big trade that works
Melo, Billups, Harrington

for

Bibby, J. Smith, Marvin, Evans, Teague, Sy


Leaves the Hawks a pretty nice rotation
Billups, Johnson, Melo, Horford, Pachulia with Crawford, Harrington, Powell, and Thomas and still have the other Crawford and Collins as deeper rotation players

Denver gets two young talented players and clears a bunch of cap space going forward.


Could also just go smaller
Melo

for

Smith and Williams


Horford could obviously be swapped out for Smith, but in a trade to land Melo, Smith makes more sense going out from the Hawks standpoint.

[mgent]

I believe the Hawks are one of the few teams that could trade with Denver with no other pieces involved and give Denver enough talent back and still keep enough talent themselves to perhaps appease Melo.

You could go major or minor (picks not included)

A big trade that works
Melo, Billups, Harrington

for

Bibby, J. Smith, Marvin, Evans, Teague, Sy


Leaves the Hawks a pretty nice rotation
Billups, Johnson, Melo, Horford, Pachulia with Crawford, Harrington, Powell, and Thomas and still have the other Crawford and Collins as deeper rotation players

Denver gets two young talented players and clears a bunch of cap space going forward.


Could also just go smaller
Melo

for

Smith and Williams


Horford could obviously be swapped out for Smith, but in a trade to land Melo, Smith makes more sense going out from the Hawks standpoint.

I like this, it would make Atlanta actually look like a contender.  I don't know about starting Zaza though.

[wiley]

I believe the Hawks are one of the few teams that could trade with Denver with no other pieces involved and give Denver enough talent back and still keep enough talent themselves to perhaps appease Melo.

You could go major or minor (picks not included)

A big trade that works
Melo, Billups, Harrington

for

Bibby, J. Smith, Marvin, Evans, Teague, Sy


Leaves the Hawks a pretty nice rotation
Billups, Johnson, Melo, Horford, Pachulia with Crawford, Harrington, Powell, and Thomas and still have the other Crawford and Collins as deeper rotation players

Denver gets two young talented players and clears a bunch of cap space going forward.


Could also just go smaller
Melo

for

Smith and Williams


Horford could obviously be swapped out for Smith, but in a trade to land Melo, Smith makes more sense going out from the Hawks standpoint.

Here's a non-Melo (pre-Melo trade) Atlanta Denver trade idea:
http://www.realgm.com/src_tradechecker/3/

M. Williams, Bibby, Teague, Jamal Crawford
for
Billups, Ty Lawson, J.R. Smith and Sheldon Williams

The question for Denver is:  Is Marvin Williams and Jeff Teague worth giving up Ty Lawson?
If Denver were on the fence and I were the Hawks I'd throw in a 2011 first rounder....

The Hawks could start:  Lawson, Billups, J.J., J. Smith, Horford    they need to find a backup PG for the few minutes that Billups isn't backing up Lawson.....J.R. Smith, Mo Willliams and Wilkens off the bench at wing.....Billups and Lawson get the ball to Atlanta's bigs....they play fast with Lawson, and more controlled when Billups is backing up and Lawson's on the bench...

Denver then trades Melo and Harrington to the Clippers (fantasy due to Melo rejecting it) for Kaman, Gomes, Foye and the Clippers #1 unprotected, likely Perry Jones, Irving or H. Barnes.

Irving, Afflalo, Marvin Williams, K. Martin, Kaman
Teague, Jamal Crawford, Gomes, Nene