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Re: A Game of Thrones (contains spoilers)
« Reply #270 on: June 04, 2013, 05:39:42 PM »

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My first question: does this thread contain spoilers from the book beyond where we're at in the show?

My second question: has there ever been a more jaw-dropping, heartbreaking moment in TV history than the Red Wedding? Hard to imagine if so.

Incredible show.

The only other time a show made me feel that way was the Dexter season 4 finale.
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Re: A Game of Thrones (contains spoilers)
« Reply #271 on: June 04, 2013, 05:42:42 PM »

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My first question: does this thread contain spoilers from the book beyond where we're at in the show?

My second question: has there ever been a more jaw-dropping, heartbreaking moment in TV history than the Red Wedding? Hard to imagine if so.

Incredible show.
Yes there are some spoilers so I would review with care.
This thread really shouldn't contain book spoilers though.  The book fans can start their own thread.  This should be dedicated to the show. 

The couple potential "spoiler' things in this thread, i think, were just theories.  Although the "Jon snow might be a Targaryen" thing seems like it might be spoilerish.  It's an easy leap to make if you know about the details of Robert's Rebellion... unfortunately I don't think the show has really gone into the specifics.  In the book series, by this point should you already know the specifics of Robert's Rebellion... the kidnapping of Eddard's sister, etc?  If so... I don't think the "Snow might be Eddard's nephew" is really a spoiler... just an educated guess.

Re: A Game of Thrones (contains spoilers)
« Reply #272 on: June 04, 2013, 06:57:04 PM »

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Arya's reaction.

I will say, of all the things that died throughout the books', the Dire Wolves dying has usually been the one that stays with you the most.

Cuz the people..well they're all kinda jerks. Aside from a very, very select few, everyone has done something at some point that makes you think, "You know, if they just like..died..that'd be okay."

But the Dire Wolves. Just messed up, man. Just so messed up.

They're like regular wolveses only biggerer
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« Reply #273 on: June 04, 2013, 07:08:37 PM »

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Dire wolves were prehistoric wolves.   

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dire_wolf

http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Direwolves

They came into fantasy through Dungeons and Dragons, I would suspect.   Martin was exposed to role playing games back in the 70's.

http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/George_R.R._Martin

Re: A Game of Thrones (contains spoilers)
« Reply #274 on: June 04, 2013, 07:56:04 PM »

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My first question: does this thread contain spoilers from the book beyond where we're at in the show?

My second question: has there ever been a more jaw-dropping, heartbreaking moment in TV history than the Red Wedding? Hard to imagine if so.

Incredible show.
Yes there are some spoilers so I would review with care.
This thread really shouldn't contain book spoilers though.  The book fans can start their own thread.  This should be dedicated to the show. 

The couple potential "spoiler' things in this thread, i think, were just theories.  Although the "Jon snow might be a Targaryen" thing seems like it might be spoilerish.  It's an easy leap to make if you know about the details of Robert's Rebellion... unfortunately I don't think the show has really gone into the specifics.  In the book series, by this point should you already know the specifics of Robert's Rebellion... the kidnapping of Eddard's sister, etc?  If so... I don't think the "Snow might be Eddard's nephew" is really a spoiler... just an educated guess.
you learn of Roberts rebellion in the first book.
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Re: A Game of Thrones (contains spoilers)
« Reply #275 on: June 05, 2013, 10:24:15 PM »

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Been staying away cuz of book spoilers, but I wanted to drop this off.  This has been kicking around for a little while now, but in case you haven't seen it - Game of Thrones characters done 90s style.















Jaime's my favorite, even though it's more 80s than 90s.

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« Reply #276 on: June 06, 2013, 11:29:34 PM »

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While its very tragic, am I the only one here who thinks "Robb had this coming, and brought everyone he loves in to doom"?
Robb Stark was immature and young and was playing the Game of Thrones versus an expert, Tywin Lannister. When you step back and look at the situation, I think it is easier to say that Robb just made mistakes that youth make, not that he deserved what happened.

I actually disagree. Robb played a part in causing the Red Wedding, of course, but I think the biggest culprit, the person that really brought all of the males in the Stark family to doom, was Cat.

Walder Frey would have been mad at Robb, but he'd been slighted by nobles his whole life. He wouldn't have liked it, but if Robb were still powerful he'd have grinned and beared it. But Robb wasn't still powerful, because his army splintered right about the time that his mother decided to let Jaime go. That one move gave up Robb's biggest leverage piece, turned one of his biggest supporters (and eventually that large portion of his army) against him, ruined morale, and eventually left Robb in a weak enough position that the Freys and Boltons of the world smelled blood.

This was eerily similar to how Cat's spontaneous decision to kidnap Tyrion led directly to the deterioration of Ned's power base and eventual fate.

Or how Cat's nastiness to Jon Snow led directly to him being sent to the Wall...so that he wasn't around to be the man of Winterfell with Ned, Cat and Robb and their retainers all out in the field. If Jon, Cat, and Cat's guards are at Winterfell does Theon's little uprising that led to a displaced Bran and Rickon ever happen? I think not.

As far as the Stark family goes, Cat was the devil.


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« Reply #277 on: June 07, 2013, 08:17:58 AM »

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While its very tragic, am I the only one here who thinks "Robb had this coming, and brought everyone he loves in to doom"?
Robb Stark was immature and young and was playing the Game of Thrones versus an expert, Tywin Lannister. When you step back and look at the situation, I think it is easier to say that Robb just made mistakes that youth make, not that he deserved what happened.

I actually disagree. Robb played a part in causing the Red Wedding, of course, but I think the biggest culprit, the person that really brought all of the males in the Stark family to doom, was Cat.

Walder Frey would have been mad at Robb, but he'd been slighted by nobles his whole life. He wouldn't have liked it, but if Robb were still powerful he'd have grinned and beared it. But Robb wasn't still powerful, because his army splintered right about the time that his mother decided to let Jaime go. That one move gave up Robb's biggest leverage piece, turned one of his biggest supporters (and eventually that large portion of his army) against him, ruined morale, and eventually left Robb in a weak enough position that the Freys and Boltons of the world smelled blood.

This was eerily similar to how Cat's spontaneous decision to kidnap Tyrion led directly to the deterioration of Ned's power base and eventual fate.

Or how Cat's nastiness to Jon Snow led directly to him being sent to the Wall...so that he wasn't around to be the man of Winterfell with Ned, Cat and Robb and their retainers all out in the field. If Jon, Cat, and Cat's guards are at Winterfell does Theon's little uprising that led to a displaced Bran and Rickon ever happen? I think not.

As far as the Stark family goes, Cat was the devil.
That's because she is a Tully and the only likeable Tully in the entire series is her uncle the Blackfish.
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Re: A Game of Thrones (contains spoilers)
« Reply #278 on: June 07, 2013, 08:34:21 AM »

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I always found the story lines of Arya, Tyrion, Daenerys and Jon Snow to be the most compelling

same here.  I'd add Jamie Lannister to that mix as well.

for some reason I thought the Rob/Catelyn story line would eventually crossover to the Goffrey storyline and have a climactic ending/confrontation ending in one of their demises (hoping Little Finger would bite the dust in that storyline if possible).

so much for that.

Now my theories for the eventual storyline is either what's left of the Starks joins with Daenerys to overthrow Goffrey (Jon Snow is really fitting in here as her prospective ally/mate) OR the Starks (primarily Jon Snow now) overthrow Goffrey with the Wildings (which looks pretty slim now) and form a coalition of the remnants of Westeros to take on Daenerys.
Obviously you never read the books.
correct -- mentioned that in my original post.  it's helped keep the storylines  a surprise -- which is a good thing considering the Red Wedding

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« Reply #279 on: June 07, 2013, 08:43:30 AM »

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While its very tragic, am I the only one here who thinks "Robb had this coming, and brought everyone he loves in to doom"?
Robb Stark was immature and young and was playing the Game of Thrones versus an expert, Tywin Lannister. When you step back and look at the situation, I think it is easier to say that Robb just made mistakes that youth make, not that he deserved what happened.

I actually disagree. Robb played a part in causing the Red Wedding, of course, but I think the biggest culprit, the person that really brought all of the males in the Stark family to doom, was Cat.

Walder Frey would have been mad at Robb, but he'd been slighted by nobles his whole life. He wouldn't have liked it, but if Robb were still powerful he'd have grinned and beared it. But Robb wasn't still powerful, because his army splintered right about the time that his mother decided to let Jaime go. That one move gave up Robb's biggest leverage piece, turned one of his biggest supporters (and eventually that large portion of his army) against him, ruined morale, and eventually left Robb in a weak enough position that the Freys and Boltons of the world smelled blood.

This was eerily similar to how Cat's spontaneous decision to kidnap Tyrion led directly to the deterioration of Ned's power base and eventual fate.

Or how Cat's nastiness to Jon Snow led directly to him being sent to the Wall...so that he wasn't around to be the man of Winterfell with Ned, Cat and Robb and their retainers all out in the field. If Jon, Cat, and Cat's guards are at Winterfell does Theon's little uprising that led to a displaced Bran and Rickon ever happen? I think not.

As far as the Stark family goes, Cat was the devil.
That's because she is a Tully and the only likeable Tully in the entire series is her uncle the Blackfish.
her death at the Red Wedding was the one good point for me.

every idea/act of hers turned to complete crap and screwed over her family continuously

Re: A Game of Thrones (contains spoilers)
« Reply #280 on: June 10, 2013, 03:00:32 AM »

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my fav cuz he is real and gangsta

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« Reply #281 on: June 10, 2013, 04:17:00 AM »

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My favorite character is Ned Stark Jeor Mormont Rob Stark oh I give up.

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« Reply #282 on: June 10, 2013, 04:22:26 AM »

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my fav cuz he is real and gangsta

Meh... He's a goon




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« Reply #283 on: June 10, 2013, 04:41:52 AM »

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2 words for next season for biggest Boss...... The Viper

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« Reply #284 on: June 10, 2013, 06:07:32 AM »

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i don`t know if it`s just me but i think they could stretch the season to 14eps....

My favorite character is Ned Stark Jeor Mormont Rob Stark oh I give up.

LOL :D :D :D :D :D :D