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Contest: Looks like Melo is headed out of Denver. Whats the deal? (Merged)
« on: December 13, 2010, 12:04:12 PM »

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Looks like Carmelo Anthony is not signing an extension in Denver. Also, he won't sign an extension anywhere but NY. Now, Denver either has to trade Melo to NY, or let him expire. It significantly increases NY's leverage, and decreases Denver's that this has become public.

So now...how does Melo get to NYC?

Closest guess (unedited) before official trade is released, whenever that is, gets 25 Tommy Points courtesy of Moi.

In the event of a tie, whoever smelt it dealt it.
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Re: Contest: Looks like Melo is headed to New York. How does he get there?
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2010, 12:10:12 PM »

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My Guess:

NY sends: Wilson Chandler, Danillo Gallinari, Anthony Randolph, Eddy Curry, Bill Walker
NY Gets: Carmelo Anthony, Jared Jeffries

Houston Sends: Jared Jeffries, 2011 Hou 1st, 2011 NYK 1st
Houston Gets: Anthony Randolph, Bill Walker, Wilson Chandler

Denver Sends: Carmelo Anthony
Denver Gets: Eddy Curry, Gallinari, 2011 Hou 1st, 2011 NYK 1st
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Re: Contest: Looks like Melo is headed to New York. How does he get there?
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2010, 12:14:35 PM »

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This actually doesnt seem too bad of a proposal. I think the Nuggets would want Chandler over Gallinari though.
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Re: Contest: Looks like Melo is headed to New York. How does he get there?
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2010, 12:15:51 PM »

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Quote from: pearljammer10 on December 13, 2010, 12:14:35 PM
This actually doesnt seem too bad of a proposal. I think the Nuggets would want Chandler over Gallinari though.

Depends on what they need. Houston fancies themselves a team of the "now"..and Wilson Chandler could go anywhere and fit in right away.

If Denver does this trade they're a team of tomorrow, and Gallinari is the one of the two of them with the biggest upside.
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Re: Contest: Looks like Melo is headed to New York. How does he get there?
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2010, 12:17:15 PM »

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http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2bmgqwe

With Houston sending the two picks to Denver.


NY sends: Chandler, Gallinari, Fields, Randolph and Curry
Receives: Melo and two trade exceptions.

Philly sends:  AI2, Meeks (or Battie when he becomes available to trade)
Receives:  Gallinari and Curry

Houston sends:  Two Trade exceptions and two draft picks
Receives:  Chandler and Randolph

Denver sends:  Melo
Receives:  AI2, Fields, Meeks (or Battie) and two 1st round picks.
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« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2010, 12:28:18 PM »

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Very interesting wd.

The deal breaker, and I'm being completely serious here, could be Landry Fields.

He's cheap, he's already a starter D'Antoni trusts, and he's one of NY's only legitimate starting 2 guards. They'd either need to start Roger Mason JR (not the worst idea ever), or hope Azubuike can get and stay healthy.
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Re: Contest: Looks like Melo is headed to New York. How does he get there?
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2010, 12:29:34 PM »

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Quote from: IndeedProceed on December 13, 2010, 12:28:18 PM
Very interesting wd.

The deal breaker, and I'm being completely serious here, could be Landry Fields.

He's cheap, he's already a starter D'Antoni trusts, and he's one of NY's only legitimate starting 2 guards. They'd either need to start Roger Mason JR (not the worst idea ever), or hope Azubuike can get and stay healthy.

I expect Azubuike to start and the Knicks to turn around and trade both trade exceptions for some low price bench players. 
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« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2010, 12:29:58 PM »

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I say Denver wants their pg Felton for the future...they will send their backup pg.with Melo.(I will add some others later.) 
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« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2010, 12:32:47 PM »

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Quote from: housecall on December 13, 2010, 12:29:58 PM
I say Denver wants their pg Felton for the future...they will send their backup pg.with Melo.(I will add some others later.)  


Over Lawson?  (who is playing 24 minutes a game as a backup PG behind Billups)
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« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2010, 12:41:34 PM »

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Quote from: wdleehi on December 13, 2010, 12:32:47 PM
Quote from: housecall on December 13, 2010, 12:29:58 PM
I say Denver wants their pg Felton for the future...they will send their backup pg.with Melo.(I will add some others later.)  


Over Lawson?  (who is playing 24 minutes a game as a backup PG behind Billups)
Felton & Billups split.Ty Lawson goes to NY
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« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2010, 12:45:15 PM »

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Quote from: wdleehi on December 13, 2010, 12:32:47 PM
Quote from: housecall on December 13, 2010, 12:29:58 PM
I say Denver wants their pg Felton for the future...they will send their backup pg.with Melo.(I will add some others later.)   


Over Lawson?  (who is playing 24 minutes a game as a backup PG behind Billups)

Yeah, Felton is 26 years old and in a hyper-uptempo system where he is the primary ball handler.

Last season when Felton was in more of a slow down time share with Stephen Jackson (as Lawson is with Billups/Anthony/Smith) Lawson was arguably the better player.

Still, I'd like to see the full deal you come up with that has Lawson going to NY and Felton going to Denver. With the money complications it would be pretty interesting.

EDIT: The Per-36 minutes numbers for Lawson 2010-11 and Felton 2009-10:

Lawson: 14.8 pts, 6.1 asts, 3.2 rebs, 49% shooting
Felton: 13.2 pts, 6.1 ast, 3.9 rebs, 46% shooting
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Re: Contest: Looks like Melo is headed to New York. How does he get there?
« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2010, 12:51:25 PM »

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Denver is losing leverage but wants to get something in return. Trading Melo = blow up and start over anyway, so they go real big:

Denver:
Gives: Billups, Melo (30,299,243

New York:
Gives: Felton, Chandler, Randolph, Curry, Gallinari (25,677,626)

Denver:
Felton/Lawson (felton @ one year after this to further help transition to Lawson)
Afflalo/J.R. Smith
Galinari/Harrington
Chandler/Martin/Williams
Nene/Andersen

They should be able to create some capspace too.

New York:
Billups/Fields
Douglas/Fields
Melo/Buike
Amare/Turiaf
Mozgov/Turiaf
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« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2010, 12:53:38 PM »

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Never was a big Melo fan but the way he's screwing over Denver and his team is really lame.

By announcing he'll only sign with NY screws over Denver big time. No other team will deal for him, knowing they'll likely lose him and NY knows they don't have to give much up for him and could even wait till next year without giving anything up for him.

Way to F-over your current team. Won't be long before JR Smith ends up knocking Melo out.
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« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2010, 12:55:50 PM »

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Quote from: Fan from VT on December 13, 2010, 12:51:25 PM
Denver is losing leverage but wants to get something in return. Trading Melo = blow up and start over anyway, so they go real big:

Denver:
Gives: Billups, Melo (30,299,243

New York:
Gives: Felton, Chandler, Randolph, Curry, Gallinari (25,677,626)

Denver:
Felton/Lawson (felton @ one year after this to further help transition to Lawson)
Afflalo/J.R. Smith
Galinari/Harrington
Chandler/Martin/Williams
Nene/Andersen

They should be able to create some capspace too.

New York:
Billups/Fields
Douglas/Fields
Melo/Buike
Amare/Turiaf
Mozgov/Turiaf


I like that trade. Is it weird that if Denver can somehow get Billups involved in a deal with Melo, I'd feel better about it?

Thing is, I doubt D'Antoni wants Billups at this point.
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Re: Contest: Looks like Melo is headed to New York. How does he get there?
« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2010, 01:09:42 PM »

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With all the leverage the Knicks have, I can't see them giving up that much.

Chandler and a draft pick
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