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Re: How many players would you take over James.
« Reply #30 on: December 02, 2010, 03:00:10 PM »

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Come on, I mean I know the Heat are struggling but this is getting ridiculous.

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Re: How many players would you take over James.
« Reply #31 on: December 02, 2010, 03:50:32 PM »

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The only two players I wouldn't trade for Lebron if I was another teams Gm are Kobe and Dwight Howard. Kobe is an equal talent except he's a proven winner. Howard is legit championship big he is one of those elite big men that takes control of the paint with his defense and rebound similar to KG or Duncan. Controlling the paint is the name of the game all the other stuff is secondary.

Re: How many players would you take over James.
« Reply #32 on: December 02, 2010, 05:17:22 PM »

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The only two players I wouldn't trade for Lebron if I was another teams Gm are Kobe and Dwight Howard. Kobe is an equal talent except he's a proven winner. Howard is legit championship big he is one of those elite big men that takes control of the paint with his defense and rebound similar to KG or Duncan. Controlling the paint is the name of the game all the other stuff is secondary.

I'd sub in Durant for Kobe, just because while Kobe's still in his prime, he's been in the league a LONG time.  Those [dang] playoff runs, too, there's a lot of miles on those legs of his.

You know KG's played about 42k regular reason minutes, and Kobe's played 38k?  Figure that Kobe's played more postseason games over the totality of their careers, and their total career minutes played have got to be pretty close to equal.  Not that Kobe seems to be slowing down, but still....   I'd take LeBron over Kobe every day of the week.

Durant over LeBron would be a bit of a spec, even with LeBron's failures he's accomplished more than KD has yet.  But, Durant's  young and one of the league's few true SuperDuperStars.

Dwight Howard; a straight-up Howard-for-LeBron trade would make two teams a helluva lot better, but in a vacuum I *doubt* I'd make that deal.

I hate LeBron just as much as I hate Kobe, but let's not start underrating him because he's a Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.nozzle.  There ain't a player on the C's that Danny wouldn't trade for him in a cocaine heartbeat - Pierce, Ray, KG, and yeah - that Rondo fella.  Ain't a one of them that would still be wearing Green if Pat Riley picked up the phone and made an offer.

Re: How many players would you take over James.
« Reply #33 on: December 02, 2010, 05:35:39 PM »

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Blake G shows a lot a potential presently. 

Re: How many players would you take over James.
« Reply #34 on: December 02, 2010, 06:16:17 PM »

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Re: How many players would you take over James.
« Reply #35 on: December 02, 2010, 06:19:39 PM »

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0, without a single thought elsewise.

If we were having an argument and you'd say Chris Paul and/or Dwight Howard I'd think you're wrong, but not crazy. Elsewise...
Normally I would say 0, but it depends who else I already have. If I already have an all-star level SF, I might prefer Howard.

It is too early for me to commit to Griffin.

No one should forget that James has a very team-friendly contract for a player of his caliber.

Re: How many players would you take over James.
« Reply #36 on: December 02, 2010, 06:58:29 PM »

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Blake G shows a lot a potential presently. 

Agreed, I would definitely hesitate to trade Blake Griffin. The only problem is that he might be injury prone.
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Re: How many players would you take over James.
« Reply #37 on: December 02, 2010, 07:03:03 PM »

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Howard is the only one.



Why?  Because in most era's it is the best big men that win most the titles.  The one exception, Magic/Bird/Jordan era.



McHale, Parrish, Kareem, Moses?

Re: How many players would you take over James.
« Reply #38 on: December 02, 2010, 07:07:18 PM »

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Howard is the only one.



Why?  Because in most era's it is the best big men that win most the titles.  The one exception, Magic/Bird/Jordan era.



McHale, Parrish, Kareem, Moses?

And Hakeem.

Re: How many players would you take over James.
« Reply #39 on: December 02, 2010, 07:33:35 PM »

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the thing is lebron doesn't have the ability to take over games AND make his teammates better
kobe has this (can't believe I admitted this)

I'm assuming this is younger guys you'd build around for future as "the king" is still young
durant
griffin
howard (please teach him so real post moves, someone!)
chris paul
williams

the first 3 guys i'd trade even up

Re: How many players would you take over James.
« Reply #40 on: December 02, 2010, 07:40:18 PM »

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Howard is the only one.



Why?  Because in most era's it is the best big men that win most the titles.  The one exception, Magic/Bird/Jordan era.



McHale, Parrish, Kareem, Moses?

And Hakeem.

Left him off because he didn't win a ring when the troika played and then I realized Michael's comeback year was the 2nd Rockets title.

Re: How many players would you take over James.
« Reply #41 on: December 02, 2010, 08:03:55 PM »

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The only two players I wouldn't trade for Lebron if I was another teams Gm are Kobe and Dwight Howard. Kobe is an equal talent except he's a proven winner. Howard is legit championship big he is one of those elite big men that takes control of the paint with his defense and rebound similar to KG or Duncan. Controlling the paint is the name of the game all the other stuff is secondary.

I'd sub in Durant for Kobe, just because while Kobe's still in his prime, he's been in the league a LONG time.  Those [dang] playoff runs, too, there's a lot of miles on those legs of his.

You know KG's played about 42k regular reason minutes, and Kobe's played 38k?  Figure that Kobe's played more postseason games over the totality of their careers, and their total career minutes played have got to be pretty close to equal.  Not that Kobe seems to be slowing down, but still....   I'd take LeBron over Kobe every day of the week.

Durant over LeBron would be a bit of a spec, even with LeBron's failures he's accomplished more than KD has yet.  But, Durant's  young and one of the league's few true SuperDuperStars.

Dwight Howard; a straight-up Howard-for-LeBron trade would make two teams a helluva lot better, but in a vacuum I *doubt* I'd make that deal.

I hate LeBron just as much as I hate Kobe, but let's not start underrating him because he's a ****nozzle.  There ain't a player on the C's that Danny wouldn't trade for him in a cocaine heartbeat - Pierce, Ray, KG, and yeah - that Rondo fella.  Ain't a one of them that would still be wearing Green if Pat Riley picked up the phone and made an offer.

After last years playoff i put all that Lebron is better than Kobe noise to rest. I couldn't keep it up after what we did to the Cavs and the way Kobe was playing out west. Lebron isn't a real leader and he isn't the closer Kobe is.

Durant is a good player, but hes not top 5. Durant for Lebron isn't equal value.

Re: How many players would you take over James.
« Reply #42 on: December 02, 2010, 08:18:34 PM »

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The only two players I wouldn't trade for Lebron if I was another teams Gm are Kobe and Dwight Howard. Kobe is an equal talent except he's a proven winner. Howard is legit championship big he is one of those elite big men that takes control of the paint with his defense and rebound similar to KG or Duncan. Controlling the paint is the name of the game all the other stuff is secondary.

I'd sub in Durant for Kobe, just because while Kobe's still in his prime, he's been in the league a LONG time.  Those [dang] playoff runs, too, there's a lot of miles on those legs of his.

You know KG's played about 42k regular reason minutes, and Kobe's played 38k?  Figure that Kobe's played more postseason games over the totality of their careers, and their total career minutes played have got to be pretty close to equal.  Not that Kobe seems to be slowing down, but still....   I'd take LeBron over Kobe every day of the week.

Durant over LeBron would be a bit of a spec, even with LeBron's failures he's accomplished more than KD has yet.  But, Durant's  young and one of the league's few true SuperDuperStars.

Dwight Howard; a straight-up Howard-for-LeBron trade would make two teams a helluva lot better, but in a vacuum I *doubt* I'd make that deal.

I hate LeBron just as much as I hate Kobe, but let's not start underrating him because he's a ****nozzle.  There ain't a player on the C's that Danny wouldn't trade for him in a cocaine heartbeat - Pierce, Ray, KG, and yeah - that Rondo fella.  Ain't a one of them that would still be wearing Green if Pat Riley picked up the phone and made an offer.

After last years playoff i put all that Lebron is better than Kobe noise to rest. I couldn't keep it up after what we did to the Cavs and the way Kobe was playing out west. Lebron isn't a real leader and he isn't the closer Kobe is.

Durant is a good player, but hes not top 5. Durant for Lebron isn't equal value.

Durant's still getting better, and will continue to get better for a long while.  You've to to extrapolate out a few years.  Same with Kobe, he's not going to be as good as he is now forever - he's got basically the same mileage on his legs as KG. 

For this season only, which players would I take?  Ignoring how much I really, REALLY hate two guys on this list, probably:

Kobe
LeBron
Durant

Two years down the road?

LeBron
Durand/Kobe

Five years down the road?

Durand
LeBron
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Kobe


Re: How many players would you take over James.
« Reply #43 on: December 02, 2010, 09:07:59 PM »

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seriously, none.

Lebron is the best player in the league.  as big a turd as he is, he's still the top player to get.

The only one I'd consider exchanging for him even remotely is Wade. 

Howard, CP3, Durant, Deron, Rose are all top players but Bron is the one to get.


Re: How many players would you take over James.
« Reply #44 on: December 02, 2010, 09:36:40 PM »

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Here is who I would take over LeBron NO PROBLEM.....

Chris Paul, Rajon Rondo, Deron Williams, Blake Griffin, Pau Gasol, and Dwight Howard.

Maybe even Al Horford (so underrated).

LeBron does not have a winning team mentality. He's a nightmare to coach and nobody wins championships with a guy that lords over your organization.
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