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Re: Fixing the heat...bring Wade in as the 6th man?
« Reply #15 on: November 26, 2010, 06:50:13 PM »

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"fix" the heat? they look perfect the way they are!  ;D

Re: Fixing the heat...bring Wade in as the 6th man?
« Reply #16 on: November 26, 2010, 06:54:57 PM »

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Fixing the heat is simple.

Get a legit defense oriented starting center. Get a speedy point guard.

Bosh needs to stop being soft and focus more on defense and rebounding instead of his offense.

Wade needs to adjust his game and become more of a shooter instead of a scorer, while lebron focuses on what he does best, penetrating and kicking it out to the open man.

Easier said then done though.

None of those things are happening this year. Maybe next, maybe the year after next.
Or in other words, "make them more like the Celtics"? Meh.

Wade is not a shooter. Never has been, never will be. James is not great at driving and dishing. He's great at driving and trying to score. Bosh will not be mistaken for an elite defender or rebounder.

The point is, players are what they are, and you can't make them change just because you want them to fit a model that has worked elsewhere. The Heat should have thought better when they brought the pieces together.

The only solution I see here is to play Wade and James as little as possible together, and let them do their thing with 2 shooters and Bosh on the floor.
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Re: Fixing the heat...bring Wade in as the 6th man?
« Reply #17 on: November 26, 2010, 07:00:59 PM »

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"fix" the heat? they look perfect the way they are!  ;D
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Re: Fixing the heat...bring Wade in as the 6th man?
« Reply #18 on: November 26, 2010, 07:17:56 PM »

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"fix" the heat? they look perfect the way they are!  ;D
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Re: Fixing the heat...bring Wade in as the 6th man?
« Reply #19 on: November 26, 2010, 07:28:42 PM »

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Look at it this way:  Bosh, Wade and LeBron were teammates on Team USA, along with MANY other NBA stars.  Even with the differences between NBA and International games, they managed to succeed.  That tells me the problem with Miami is the system (i.e., coaching), not the players.

Re: Fixing the heat...bring Wade in as the 6th man?
« Reply #20 on: November 28, 2010, 02:29:48 AM »

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Look at it this way:  Bosh, Wade and LeBron were teammates on Team USA, along with MANY other NBA stars.  Even with the differences between NBA and International games, they managed to succeed.  That tells me the problem with Miami is the system (i.e., coaching), not the players.

Or, it could be that Team USA had a legitimate center (Dwight Howard) and a legitimate point guard (Chris Paul).
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Re: Fixing the heat...bring Wade in as the 6th man?
« Reply #21 on: November 28, 2010, 05:12:32 AM »

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Fixing the Heat is simple: Spoelstra needs to implement a "no shot before four passes" rule. Then, he must ban all isolation plays for LeBron and Wade. Finally, they need to get back Haslem and Miller. If they can do those things, they will be dangerous, even without a center and point guard.

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« Reply #22 on: November 28, 2010, 09:36:35 AM »

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Look at it this way:  Bosh, Wade and LeBron were teammates on Team USA, along with MANY other NBA stars.  Even with the differences between NBA and International games, they managed to succeed.  That tells me the problem with Miami is the system (i.e., coaching), not the players.

  First of all, every team team USA faced was vastly inferior to the Celts or the Lakers. Secondly, those teams generally win because of athletic superiority. Look at this year's team, which rarely had a cohesive offense yet brought home the gold.

Re: Fixing the heat...bring Wade in as the 6th man?
« Reply #23 on: November 28, 2010, 09:59:35 AM »

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This would fix nothing, they still have a weak interior.  Its hard to have good ball movement off the dribble which is all LeBron does, benching Wade would not fix it.

Re: Fixing the heat...bring Wade in as the 6th man?
« Reply #24 on: November 28, 2010, 11:25:29 AM »

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Sometimes we over analyze situations...sometimes it can be as simple as they are just not that good.You put your best on the court and i'll put my best.They can't put 5 players more times than not that are better than most other teams from night to night...and its not always about whose got the better coaching so much as whose putting the better product on the floor.

Two-three stars and a bunch of Tito Jacksons don't exactly make a great team.
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Re: Fixing the heat...bring Wade in as the 6th man?
« Reply #25 on: November 28, 2010, 12:02:04 PM »

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Get them a PG who distributes and a C who bangs and boards or a PF who bangs and boards.

Big Z, Joel, Magloire, and Dampier are not gonna cut it for a championship caliber team.

I actually don't think Haslem can cut it as a starting PF for a championship team, but he is so crucial to Heat right now because of the void of toughness on that team, and Haslem has won a chip as the starting PF....but it was nearly 5 years ago.

Basically Wade and Lebron are too similar players...their skill sets are redundant when they are on the court together.

Only way to best utilize those skill sets is to fastbreak all game and they can't do that with no defensive anchor down low or strong perimeter defense upfront.

Re: Fixing the heat...bring Wade in as the 6th man?
« Reply #26 on: November 28, 2010, 12:40:02 PM »

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They need to bench Carlos Arroyo.

Start Chalmers or James Jones, either player is a superior fit in that starting unit.

Re: Fixing the heat...bring Wade in as the 6th man?
« Reply #27 on: November 28, 2010, 01:19:25 PM »

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The Mavericks fixed the Heat last night.....

They're all fixed.